Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you need to have a serious tough talk with your spouse, how do you prep? Do you talk in a public place say over dinner? Do you schedule a time to talk? Do you just spill it on the spot?
NP
Yes he tends to need a calm time but is usually always stewing.
I also record it since he has ODD and takes any comment or suggestion personally, instantly. And then starts his DARVO tactics. The original topic gets buried by his deflections and tangential accusation attempts. Bringing things back on task doesn’t work, we almost need a third party and a list maker to table all the nonsense he throws around.
Basically he has no conflict resolution skills, and would rather try to start a big side argument and further damage the relationship, than work as a team and find a sensible solution or two.
I record it to (a) see this pattern in him, (b) see if we made any progress on the topic (vacation trip, child having an issue, school decisions, elderly parent issues, income cash flow issues).
Frankly it’s psycho-ville trying to talk to him about anything real.
I'm married to the same man. WHAT IS THIS BS??? I'm at a loss as to how to "fix" this or even if I want to at this point? He's like a child. Also he puts words in my mouth I didn't say.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you need to have a serious tough talk with your spouse, how do you prep? Do you talk in a public place say over dinner? Do you schedule a time to talk? Do you just spill it on the spot?
NP
Yes he tends to need a calm time but is usually always stewing.
I also record it since he has ODD and takes any comment or suggestion personally, instantly. And then starts his DARVO tactics. The original topic gets buried by his deflections and tangential accusation attempts. Bringing things back on task doesn’t work, we almost need a third party and a list maker to table all the nonsense he throws around.
Basically he has no conflict resolution skills, and would rather try to start a big side argument and further damage the relationship, than work as a team and find a sensible solution or two.
I record it to (a) see this pattern in him, (b) see if we made any progress on the topic (vacation trip, child having an issue, school decisions, elderly parent issues, income cash flow issues).
Frankly it’s psycho-ville trying to talk to him about anything real.
Wow! Would you say you are generally unhappy in the marriage? Or are their positive things that balance his lack of conflict resolution out, that enable you to still be happy?
Happy with myself, my kids, my house, my career, my friends, my family, yes
Happy with my spouse and my marriage and how stuck that all is forever, no. I operate as a single parent including of a 250kb 49-something ManChild.
But I processed it all, read all about it, did $4000 of therapy to “cope”, know my divorce options, raise my kids to be independent and set boundaries, and see through all the antics and patterns now. He’s actually very predictable now. But has no interest in putting effort into improving his bad habits or communication.
If you're that happy why carry the dead, predictable weight??? Cut it!
NP. Some of us care more about keeping our children with us through adulthood than the happiness of our marriage. I have unrelated issues with my spouse, but I can relate to the PP in that I have processed it, read about it, done the therapy, and know what a divorce will look like, but I'm sticking it out to be able to stay with my children full time. It is the right decision for me.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you need to have a serious tough talk with your spouse, how do you prep? Do you talk in a public place say over dinner? Do you schedule a time to talk? Do you just spill it on the spot?
NP
Yes he tends to need a calm time but is usually always stewing.
I also record it since he has ODD and takes any comment or suggestion personally, instantly. And then starts his DARVO tactics. The original topic gets buried by his deflections and tangential accusation attempts. Bringing things back on task doesn’t work, we almost need a third party and a list maker to table all the nonsense he throws around.
Basically he has no conflict resolution skills, and would rather try to start a big side argument and further damage the relationship, than work as a team and find a sensible solution or two.
I record it to (a) see this pattern in him, (b) see if we made any progress on the topic (vacation trip, child having an issue, school decisions, elderly parent issues, income cash flow issues).
Frankly it’s psycho-ville trying to talk to him about anything real.
Wow! Would you say you are generally unhappy in the marriage? Or are their positive things that balance his lack of conflict resolution out, that enable you to still be happy?
Happy with myself, my kids, my house, my career, my friends, my family, yes
Happy with my spouse and my marriage and how stuck that all is forever, no. I operate as a single parent including of a 250kb 49-something ManChild.
But I processed it all, read all about it, did $4000 of therapy to “cope”, know my divorce options, raise my kids to be independent and set boundaries, and see through all the antics and patterns now. He’s actually very predictable now. But has no interest in putting effort into improving his bad habits or communication.
If you're that happy why carry the dead, predictable weight??? Cut it!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you need to have a serious tough talk with your spouse, how do you prep? Do you talk in a public place say over dinner? Do you schedule a time to talk? Do you just spill it on the spot?
NP
Yes he tends to need a calm time but is usually always stewing.
I also record it since he has ODD and takes any comment or suggestion personally, instantly. And then starts his DARVO tactics. The original topic gets buried by his deflections and tangential accusation attempts. Bringing things back on task doesn’t work, we almost need a third party and a list maker to table all the nonsense he throws around.
Basically he has no conflict resolution skills, and would rather try to start a big side argument and further damage the relationship, than work as a team and find a sensible solution or two.
I record it to (a) see this pattern in him, (b) see if we made any progress on the topic (vacation trip, child having an issue, school decisions, elderly parent issues, income cash flow issues).
Frankly it’s psycho-ville trying to talk to him about anything real.
Wow! Would you say you are generally unhappy in the marriage? Or are their positive things that balance his lack of conflict resolution out, that enable you to still be happy?
Happy with myself, my kids, my house, my career, my friends, my family, yes
Happy with my spouse and my marriage and how stuck that all is forever, no. I operate as a single parent including of a 250kb 49-something ManChild.
But I processed it all, read all about it, did $4000 of therapy to “cope”, know my divorce options, raise my kids to be independent and set boundaries, and see through all the antics and patterns now. He’s actually very predictable now. But has no interest in putting effort into improving his bad habits or communication.
If you're that happy why carry the dead, predictable weight??? Cut it!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you need to have a serious tough talk with your spouse, how do you prep? Do you talk in a public place say over dinner? Do you schedule a time to talk? Do you just spill it on the spot?
NP
Yes he tends to need a calm time but is usually always stewing.
I also record it since he has ODD and takes any comment or suggestion personally, instantly. And then starts his DARVO tactics. The original topic gets buried by his deflections and tangential accusation attempts. Bringing things back on task doesn’t work, we almost need a third party and a list maker to table all the nonsense he throws around.
Basically he has no conflict resolution skills, and would rather try to start a big side argument and further damage the relationship, than work as a team and find a sensible solution or two.
I record it to (a) see this pattern in him, (b) see if we made any progress on the topic (vacation trip, child having an issue, school decisions, elderly parent issues, income cash flow issues).
Frankly it’s psycho-ville trying to talk to him about anything real.
Wow! Would you say you are generally unhappy in the marriage? Or are their positive things that balance his lack of conflict resolution out, that enable you to still be happy?
Happy with myself, my kids, my house, my career, my friends, my family, yes
Happy with my spouse and my marriage and how stuck that all is forever, no. I operate as a single parent including of a 250kb 49-something ManChild.
But I processed it all, read all about it, did $4000 of therapy to “cope”, know my divorce options, raise my kids to be independent and set boundaries, and see through all the antics and patterns now. He’s actually very predictable now. But has no interest in putting effort into improving his bad habits or communication.
Anonymous wrote:If you need to have a serious tough talk with your spouse, how do you prep? Do you talk in a public place say over dinner? Do you schedule a time to talk? Do you just spill it on the spot?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you need to have a serious tough talk with your spouse, how do you prep? Do you talk in a public place say over dinner? Do you schedule a time to talk? Do you just spill it on the spot?
NP
Yes he tends to need a calm time but is usually always stewing.
I also record it since he has ODD and takes any comment or suggestion personally, instantly. And then starts his DARVO tactics. The original topic gets buried by his deflections and tangential accusation attempts. Bringing things back on task doesn’t work, we almost need a third party and a list maker to table all the nonsense he throws around.
Basically he has no conflict resolution skills, and would rather try to start a big side argument and further damage the relationship, than work as a team and find a sensible solution or two.
I record it to (a) see this pattern in him, (b) see if we made any progress on the topic (vacation trip, child having an issue, school decisions, elderly parent issues, income cash flow issues).
Frankly it’s psycho-ville trying to talk to him about anything real.
Wow! Would you say you are generally unhappy in the marriage? Or are their positive things that balance his lack of conflict resolution out, that enable you to still be happy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you need to have a serious tough talk with your spouse, how do you prep? Do you talk in a public place say over dinner? Do you schedule a time to talk? Do you just spill it on the spot?
NP
Yes he tends to need a calm time but is usually always stewing.
I also record it since he has ODD and takes any comment or suggestion personally, instantly. And then starts his DARVO tactics. The original topic gets buried by his deflections and tangential accusation attempts. Bringing things back on task doesn’t work, we almost need a third party and a list maker to table all the nonsense he throws around.
Basically he has no conflict resolution skills, and would rather try to start a big side argument and further damage the relationship, than work as a team and find a sensible solution or two.
I record it to (a) see this pattern in him, (b) see if we made any progress on the topic (vacation trip, child having an issue, school decisions, elderly parent issues, income cash flow issues).
Frankly it’s psycho-ville trying to talk to him about anything real.
I'm married to the same man. WHAT IS THIS BS??? I'm at a loss as to how to "fix" this or even if I want to at this point? He's like a child. Also he puts words in my mouth I didn't say.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't ... prep? Maybe I wait for the kids to be in bed or for us to not be around them. We have quarterly meetings to go over finances, trips and stuff we need to sign kids up for (which kind of is part of finances), so a lot comes up then.
If DH said something that embarrassed me in public I might tell him in the car on the way home or that night when we're getting ready for bed, "hey I felt like the miscarriage was private and wish you hadn't said anything. I wasn't ready to talk about it with people. Going forward can we please touch base on what we're sharing before we share when it comes to reproductive or medical stuff?"
I wish my spouse operated like this but he doesn’t. He will hold things in and then unleash on me months later about something I did. I will apologize for it but then the apology isn’t good enough. I feel like I have to give blood and organs for doing any wrong. To answer your question Op, I don’t prep. I just keep quiet. It’s so lonely.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you need to have a serious tough talk with your spouse, how do you prep? Do you talk in a public place say over dinner? Do you schedule a time to talk? Do you just spill it on the spot?
NP
Yes he tends to need a calm time but is usually always stewing.
I also record it since he has ODD and takes any comment or suggestion personally, instantly. And then starts his DARVO tactics. The original topic gets buried by his deflections and tangential accusation attempts. Bringing things back on task doesn’t work, we almost need a third party and a list maker to table all the nonsense he throws around.
Basically he has no conflict resolution skills, and would rather try to start a big side argument and further damage the relationship, than work as a team and find a sensible solution or two.
I record it to (a) see this pattern in him, (b) see if we made any progress on the topic (vacation trip, child having an issue, school decisions, elderly parent issues, income cash flow issues).
Frankly it’s psycho-ville trying to talk to him about anything real.