Anonymous
10/19/2023 09:06
Subject: ECNL the only path?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. Let me illiterate. My DD will soon be 10. She’s being approached to go to to ECNL CLUBS, what I guess is pre-ECNL. I feel it’s important to work hard and follow any dream. Dreams change and that’s ok. Best thing is to give them the tools and let them grow.
I do think it’s important not to be a “club hopper” and make bonds with teammates and coaches. I personally played a D1 sport, but never had to deal with ECNL, GA and so on. Times have changed.
Found out tonight the coach was an ECNL coach, and is well licensed.(not that makes a difference) He has relationships with college coaches. One parent has said he is a great coach and has done a lot for his older DD.
Is this doable. Can 1 coach start a team, make it his super team in hopes to start a non bias soccer club that focuses on player’s growth and ambitions? Has anyone experience or seen it happen?
She’s so young that what’s really important is that she’s in an environment that is challenging, fun, and rewarding. Maybe he can provide that, but words are just words. If you just listen to proposals and don’t actually get to let her experience what this next step might actually feel like to her, you could end up putting her into a position that will make her no longer enjoy what she’s doing.
See if this coach will let her come and train with one of his current teams if he’s currently coaching players her age or near her age. That way she can feel the environment out and how he runs his sessions. You can then also talk to parents on his team and their experiences.
He currently has no team. He’s working on getting a team built and registering the team in tournaments. The team will primarily do only tournaments.
He’s an ECNL coach but has no team? That just means he’s not an ECNL coach. Furthermore, ECNL has no requirements to coach a team other than the sham safe sport background check. So that doesn’t really mean anything. I would approach with caution.
He was an ECNL coach. My understanding is he left the stress of corporate ECNL. Right now his goal is to start a “super” team that can play up an age group at tournaments. More focus on ranking. 1 tournament a month, scrimmaging on other weekends. Incorporating a more European approach.
Anyone who aims for ranking at U9 is a con man. An approach based on forming a U9 team with a focus on winning tournaments is as opposite from a European approach as you can possible get
Anonymous
10/19/2023 08:51
Subject: ECNL the only path?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. Let me illiterate. My DD will soon be 10. She’s being approached to go to to ECNL CLUBS, what I guess is pre-ECNL. I feel it’s important to work hard and follow any dream. Dreams change and that’s ok. Best thing is to give them the tools and let them grow.
I do think it’s important not to be a “club hopper” and make bonds with teammates and coaches. I personally played a D1 sport, but never had to deal with ECNL, GA and so on. Times have changed.
Found out tonight the coach was an ECNL coach, and is well licensed.(not that makes a difference) He has relationships with college coaches. One parent has said he is a great coach and has done a lot for his older DD.
Is this doable. Can 1 coach start a team, make it his super team in hopes to start a non bias soccer club that focuses on player’s growth and ambitions? Has anyone experience or seen it happen?
She’s so young that what’s really important is that she’s in an environment that is challenging, fun, and rewarding. Maybe he can provide that, but words are just words. If you just listen to proposals and don’t actually get to let her experience what this next step might actually feel like to her, you could end up putting her into a position that will make her no longer enjoy what she’s doing.
See if this coach will let her come and train with one of his current teams if he’s currently coaching players her age or near her age. That way she can feel the environment out and how he runs his sessions. You can then also talk to parents on his team and their experiences.
He currently has no team. He’s working on getting a team built and registering the team in tournaments. The team will primarily do only tournaments.
He’s an ECNL coach but has no team? That just means he’s not an ECNL coach. Furthermore, ECNL has no requirements to coach a team other than the sham safe sport background check. So that doesn’t really mean anything. I would approach with caution.
He was an ECNL coach. My understanding is he left the stress of corporate ECNL. Right now his goal is to start a “super” team that can play up an age group at tournaments. More focus on ranking. 1 tournament a month, scrimmaging on other weekends. Incorporating a more European approach.
Anonymous
10/19/2023 07:49
Subject: ECNL the only path?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. Let me illiterate. My DD will soon be 10. She’s being approached to go to to ECNL CLUBS, what I guess is pre-ECNL. I feel it’s important to work hard and follow any dream. Dreams change and that’s ok. Best thing is to give them the tools and let them grow.
I do think it’s important not to be a “club hopper” and make bonds with teammates and coaches. I personally played a D1 sport, but never had to deal with ECNL, GA and so on. Times have changed.
Found out tonight the coach was an ECNL coach, and is well licensed.(not that makes a difference) He has relationships with college coaches. One parent has said he is a great coach and has done a lot for his older DD.
Is this doable. Can 1 coach start a team, make it his super team in hopes to start a non bias soccer club that focuses on player’s growth and ambitions? Has anyone experience or seen it happen?
She’s so young that what’s really important is that she’s in an environment that is challenging, fun, and rewarding. Maybe he can provide that, but words are just words. If you just listen to proposals and don’t actually get to let her experience what this next step might actually feel like to her, you could end up putting her into a position that will make her no longer enjoy what she’s doing.
See if this coach will let her come and train with one of his current teams if he’s currently coaching players her age or near her age. That way she can feel the environment out and how he runs his sessions. You can then also talk to parents on his team and their experiences.
He currently has no team. He’s working on getting a team built and registering the team in tournaments. The team will primarily do only tournaments.
He’s an ECNL coach but has no team? That just means he’s not an ECNL coach. Furthermore, ECNL has no requirements to coach a team other than the sham safe sport background check. So that doesn’t really mean anything. I would approach with caution.
Anonymous
10/19/2023 07:45
Subject: ECNL the only path?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. Let me illiterate. My DD will soon be 10. She’s being approached to go to to ECNL CLUBS, what I guess is pre-ECNL. I feel it’s important to work hard and follow any dream. Dreams change and that’s ok. Best thing is to give them the tools and let them grow.
I do think it’s important not to be a “club hopper” and make bonds with teammates and coaches. I personally played a D1 sport, but never had to deal with ECNL, GA and so on. Times have changed.
Found out tonight the coach was an ECNL coach, and is well licensed.(not that makes a difference) He has relationships with college coaches. One parent has said he is a great coach and has done a lot for his older DD.
Is this doable. Can 1 coach start a team, make it his super team in hopes to start a non bias soccer club that focuses on player’s growth and ambitions? Has anyone experience or seen it happen?
She’s so young that what’s really important is that she’s in an environment that is challenging, fun, and rewarding. Maybe he can provide that, but words are just words. If you just listen to proposals and don’t actually get to let her experience what this next step might actually feel like to her, you could end up putting her into a position that will make her no longer enjoy what she’s doing.
See if this coach will let her come and train with one of his current teams if he’s currently coaching players her age or near her age. That way she can feel the environment out and how he runs his sessions. You can then also talk to parents on his team and their experiences.
He currently has no team. He’s working on getting a team built and registering the team in tournaments. The team will primarily do only tournaments.
What is the plan for the 75% of weekends with no tournaments? Does he realize that ECNL requires a club to participate at every age level and that you have to apply? Large clubs have to merge for ECNL because most clubs can't get invited. Does he think that his new team will somehow get an invite that SYC, FCV, Vienna, Alexandria, Great Falls... can't?
Anonymous
10/19/2023 07:34
Subject: ECNL the only path?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. Let me illiterate. My DD will soon be 10. She’s being approached to go to to ECNL CLUBS, what I guess is pre-ECNL. I feel it’s important to work hard and follow any dream. Dreams change and that’s ok. Best thing is to give them the tools and let them grow.
I do think it’s important not to be a “club hopper” and make bonds with teammates and coaches. I personally played a D1 sport, but never had to deal with ECNL, GA and so on. Times have changed.
Found out tonight the coach was an ECNL coach, and is well licensed.(not that makes a difference) He has relationships with college coaches. One parent has said he is a great coach and has done a lot for his older DD.
Is this doable. Can 1 coach start a team, make it his super team in hopes to start a non bias soccer club that focuses on player’s growth and ambitions? Has anyone experience or seen it happen?
She’s so young that what’s really important is that she’s in an environment that is challenging, fun, and rewarding. Maybe he can provide that, but words are just words. If you just listen to proposals and don’t actually get to let her experience what this next step might actually feel like to her, you could end up putting her into a position that will make her no longer enjoy what she’s doing.
See if this coach will let her come and train with one of his current teams if he’s currently coaching players her age or near her age. That way she can feel the environment out and how he runs his sessions. You can then also talk to parents on his team and their experiences.
He currently has no team. He’s working on getting a team built and registering the team in tournaments. The team will primarily do only tournaments.
Anonymous
10/19/2023 07:00
Subject: ECNL the only path?
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Let me illiterate. My DD will soon be 10. She’s being approached to go to to ECNL CLUBS, what I guess is pre-ECNL. I feel it’s important to work hard and follow any dream. Dreams change and that’s ok. Best thing is to give them the tools and let them grow.
I do think it’s important not to be a “club hopper” and make bonds with teammates and coaches. I personally played a D1 sport, but never had to deal with ECNL, GA and so on. Times have changed.
Found out tonight the coach was an ECNL coach, and is well licensed.(not that makes a difference) He has relationships with college coaches. One parent has said he is a great coach and has done a lot for his older DD.
Is this doable. Can 1 coach start a team, make it his super team in hopes to start a non bias soccer club that focuses on player’s growth and ambitions? Has anyone experience or seen it happen?
I don't think this means she's being recruited to be ECNL. I think it means some clubs are offering her a spot. At this point if you think she might have ambitions you should focus on two things: 1.) is she getting better and 2.) is she enjoying it.
Anonymous
10/19/2023 06:03
Subject: Re:ECNL the only path?
If she really wants to play in college she really has to be on an ECNL team.
Anonymous
10/19/2023 06:00
Subject: ECNL the only path?
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Let me illiterate. My DD will soon be 10. She’s being approached to go to to ECNL CLUBS, what I guess is pre-ECNL. I feel it’s important to work hard and follow any dream. Dreams change and that’s ok. Best thing is to give them the tools and let them grow.
I do think it’s important not to be a “club hopper” and make bonds with teammates and coaches. I personally played a D1 sport, but never had to deal with ECNL, GA and so on. Times have changed.
Found out tonight the coach was an ECNL coach, and is well licensed.(not that makes a difference) He has relationships with college coaches. One parent has said he is a great coach and has done a lot for his older DD.
Is this doable. Can 1 coach start a team, make it his super team in hopes to start a non bias soccer club that focuses on player’s growth and ambitions? Has anyone experience or seen it happen?
She’s so young that what’s really important is that she’s in an environment that is challenging, fun, and rewarding. Maybe he can provide that, but words are just words. If you just listen to proposals and don’t actually get to let her experience what this next step might actually feel like to her, you could end up putting her into a position that will make her no longer enjoy what she’s doing.
See if this coach will let her come and train with one of his current teams if he’s currently coaching players her age or near her age. That way she can feel the environment out and how he runs his sessions. You can then also talk to parents on his team and their experiences.
Anonymous
10/19/2023 04:46
Subject: ECNL the only path?
OP here. Let me illiterate. My DD will soon be 10. She’s being approached to go to to ECNL CLUBS, what I guess is pre-ECNL. I feel it’s important to work hard and follow any dream. Dreams change and that’s ok. Best thing is to give them the tools and let them grow.
I do think it’s important not to be a “club hopper” and make bonds with teammates and coaches. I personally played a D1 sport, but never had to deal with ECNL, GA and so on. Times have changed.
Found out tonight the coach was an ECNL coach, and is well licensed.(not that makes a difference) He has relationships with college coaches. One parent has said he is a great coach and has done a lot for his older DD.
Is this doable. Can 1 coach start a team, make it his super team in hopes to start a non bias soccer club that focuses on player’s growth and ambitions? Has anyone experience or seen it happen?
I do think it’s important not to be a “club hopper” and make bonds with teammates and coaches. I personally played a D1 sport, but never had to deal with ECNL, GA and so on. Times have changed.
Found out tonight the coach was an ECNL coach, and is well licensed.(not that makes a difference) He has relationships with college coaches. One parent has said he is a great coach and has done a lot for his older DD.
Is this doable. Can 1 coach start a team, make it his super team in hopes to start a non bias soccer club that focuses on player’s growth and ambitions? Has anyone experience or seen it happen?
Anonymous
10/18/2023 19:33
Subject: ECNL the only path?
Who remembers back in 2016 when the federation expressed concerns about coaching behavior at ECNL clubs and the lack of mandated coaching licenses by the ECNL? Pretty much why the USSF never decided to collaborate with the ECNL and attempted to do its own thing.
Anonymous
10/18/2023 19:11
Subject: ECNL the only path?
https://x.com/coach_djc_mksc/status/1478045828820443136?s=46&t=jPTvzXlcxTo5CMOdcSvPVA
Good thread to read down and catch a snapshot of compiled financials.
Good thread to read down and catch a snapshot of compiled financials.
Anonymous
10/18/2023 19:06
Subject: ECNL the only path?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, I was once in your shoes years ago…
ECNL>Girls Academy>USYS
ECNL gets roughly 70% of D1 players. 25% Girls Academy. 5% Others and that is probably high.
Another note, the landscape always seems to change. Rumors floating that ECNL is embezzling money, but then again, that is just rumors. Everything can change by the time your DD is 13.
Most importantly, put your DD’s education 1st and what ever passion she has that she can actually make a living out of. Women’s soccer is not going to be it. Use soccer as a means to get into the best college possible for her future career whether D1 or D3.
I know too many idiots whose daughters just go to college because “it’s a good soccer school” instead of a good Medical school.
Stephen Griffin has posted some real interesting financial data from ECNL and USCS on X. That along who is employed where makes it definitely feel like theres possibly some smoke there.
Can you share the link to this?
You’ll have to follow @Griffin_Author on X and search ‘ECNL’ in his latest postings. He came out with information over a year ago but nobody really thinks much of it.
Interesting flow of money/roles between execs at ECNL and USCS along with their management/marketing company. Doesn’t take a CPA to recognize something fishy when you spend 35% of your revenue towards an independent contractor for marketing and management as a non profit.
Anonymous
10/18/2023 18:33
Subject: ECNL the only path?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, I was once in your shoes years ago…
ECNL>Girls Academy>USYS
ECNL gets roughly 70% of D1 players. 25% Girls Academy. 5% Others and that is probably high.
Another note, the landscape always seems to change. Rumors floating that ECNL is embezzling money, but then again, that is just rumors. Everything can change by the time your DD is 13.
Most importantly, put your DD’s education 1st and what ever passion she has that she can actually make a living out of. Women’s soccer is not going to be it. Use soccer as a means to get into the best college possible for her future career whether D1 or D3.
I know too many idiots whose daughters just go to college because “it’s a good soccer school” instead of a good Medical school.
Stephen Griffin has posted some real interesting financial data from ECNL and USCS on X. That along who is employed where makes it definitely feel like theres possibly some smoke there.
Can you share the link to this?
Anonymous
10/18/2023 18:12
Subject: ECNL the only path?
I remember thinking like this when my ds was 9. Lol.
Anonymous
10/18/2023 18:08
Subject: ECNL the only path?
Anonymous wrote:OP, I was once in your shoes years ago…
ECNL>Girls Academy>USYS
ECNL gets roughly 70% of D1 players. 25% Girls Academy. 5% Others and that is probably high.
Another note, the landscape always seems to change. Rumors floating that ECNL is embezzling money, but then again, that is just rumors. Everything can change by the time your DD is 13.
Most importantly, put your DD’s education 1st and what ever passion she has that she can actually make a living out of. Women’s soccer is not going to be it. Use soccer as a means to get into the best college possible for her future career whether D1 or D3.
I know too many idiots whose daughters just go to college because “it’s a good soccer school” instead of a good Medical school.
Stephen Griffin has posted some real interesting financial data from ECNL and USCS on X. That along who is employed where makes it definitely feel like theres possibly some smoke there.