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Anonymous wrote:Auburn just released their first round of EA admits. They also published the stats of the applicant pool and I was floored. Middle 50% GPA for OOS admits was 4.25. Middle 50% for deferred was 4.06.

It is blowing my mind how competitive the SEC has gotten in the last 3 years. I suspect Clemson and UofSC will be even more competitive.

Clemson Yes more competitve, Uof SC- propbably not- it is such a large school. Auburn and Clemson are much smaller.

Anonymous wrote:Auburn just released their first round of EA admits. They also published the stats of the applicant pool and I was floored. Middle 50% GPA for OOS admits was 4.25. Middle 50% for deferred was 4.06.

It is blowing my mind how competitive the SEC has gotten in the last 3 years. I suspect Clemson and UofSC will be even more competitive.

Anonymous wrote:And yet all these schools went test optional

It is near impossible to cheat on the SAT or ACT. The essays can be written by a hired company, AI, a friend, copied from someone else, etc.

It's why I think test scores are so much more important than essays and should be required. Also, it has been proven that tutors can only raise a score to a limit. Test tutoring will not get a dumb kid a high score. My husband and I had parents that could not pay for test prep. We both scored very high--only using a Baron's guide for self-study.

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Anonymous wrote:This is so depressing. My kids were supposed to have a better life than me. Now my school is a T40, and they'll never get in.

I went to a 'lesser/lower ranked' school than my parents and we are much wealthier than them.

Anonymous wrote:This is so depressing. My kids were supposed to have a better life than me. Now my school is a T40, and they'll never get in.

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Anonymous wrote:There are endless numbers of kids with inflated grades. Many districts have 75% of the kids above a 4.0.

Of course, but 4.25 for Auburn is bananas! I know my kid is in a NOVA public school, is at 4.2 and she is class ranked at 30%. So for our school I think if you are just above 4.0 you are probably closer to 50%

I really think more emphasis needs to be put on SAT to have some sort of baseline.

Instead schools are going TO...

Sure, but Auburn is a bit interesting they are now “test preferred” and published that last year their admit rate for TO was only 10%. Also all merit is based on SAT and/or ACT scores. Zero merit for TO kids. Looks like they fully understand grade inflation.

Interesting. I wonder what kind of kids are accepted TO, then.

Probably very high GPA. Auburn is only by the numbers. They don’t do a wholistic approach. No essay no ECs. It’s a numbers game. The only thing they seem to do is keep a healthy gender balance. You submit your test scores, your GPA, your rigor, and what program of study/school you are applying for.

THIS and they are VERY transparent about it. There are a lot of upset parents that their kid with a 4.2 GPA got deferred but applied TO. They very clearly say admission is all based on high stats for the first couple of EA rounds and that they are NOT truly test optional. TO is really only reserved for the very rare situation where a test could not be taken (think natural disaster, house burned down the night before the test, etc., etc.). Auburn is also getting very selective yet the published admission rates do not reflect that. They are still showing up at in the 70's % when the reality is last year they were at 44%. University of Tennessee is another school where people think it is a safety because it is showing 80% acceptance. Last year was 33% for OOS kids and there were MANY shocked OOS high stats kids who assumed their admission was a sure thing.

In my opinion, for Auburn the test scores are more important than the GPA. My kid was just admitted with a 3.9 and a 30 ACT. His friend had a 4.2 and a 29 and was deferred.

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Anonymous wrote:There are endless numbers of kids with inflated grades. Many districts have 75% of the kids above a 4.0.

Of course, but 4.25 for Auburn is bananas! I know my kid is in a NOVA public school, is at 4.2 and she is class ranked at 30%. So for our school I think if you are just above 4.0 you are probably closer to 50%

I really think more emphasis needs to be put on SAT to have some sort of baseline.

Instead schools are going TO...

Sure, but Auburn is a bit interesting they are now “test preferred” and published that last year their admit rate for TO was only 10%. Also all merit is based on SAT and/or ACT scores. Zero merit for TO kids. Looks like they fully understand grade inflation.

Interesting. I wonder what kind of kids are accepted TO, then.

Probably very high GPA. Auburn is only by the numbers. They don’t do a wholistic approach. No essay no ECs. It’s a numbers game. The only thing they seem to do is keep a healthy gender balance. You submit your test scores, your GPA, your rigor, and what program of study/school you are applying for.

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Anonymous wrote:I am starting to see the new EA game with these schools. Yes impressive GPA average but how many of these kids will accept? Several of my DDs friends are applying to Auburn and other SEC schools as their safeties. No real interest in going.

So my kid gets deferred and has to stress.

And many of these schools don’t have ED. Now that would be interesting. What is the average for the kids who actually will commit?

Why don’t more big schools to ED? Seems like a win for them and they don’t have to worry so much about blowing yield rate.

SEC schools are extremely popular right now and not safeties anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:I am starting to see the new EA game with these schools. Yes impressive GPA average but how many of these kids will accept? Several of my DDs friends are applying to Auburn and other SEC schools as their safeties. No real interest in going.

So my kid gets deferred and has to stress.

And many of these schools don’t have ED. Now that would be interesting. What is the average for the kids who actually will commit?

Why don’t more big schools to ED? Seems like a win for them and they don’t have to worry so much about blowing yield rate.

SEC schools are extremely popular right now and not safeties anymore.

Anonymous wrote:I am starting to see the new EA game with these schools. Yes impressive GPA average but how many of these kids will accept? Several of my DDs friends are applying to Auburn and other SEC schools as their safeties. No real interest in going.

So my kid gets deferred and has to stress.

And many of these schools don’t have ED. Now that would be interesting. What is the average for the kids who actually will commit?

Why don’t more big schools to ED? Seems like a win for them and they don’t have to worry so much about blowing yield rate.

Anonymous wrote:Auburn just released their first round of EA admits. They also published the stats of the applicant pool and I was floored. Middle 50% GPA for OOS admits was 4.25. Middle 50% for deferred was 4.06.

It is blowing my mind how competitive the SEC has gotten in the last 3 years. I suspect Clemson and UofSC will be even more competitive.