Anonymous
Post 10/12/2023 14:29     Subject: Act Test Scores For Us Students Drop To New 30-Year Low
Anonymous wrote:ACT scores dropped during and after the pandemic but had also been dropping before that. Could this be related to high schoolers who were never taught to read properly and are victims of "balanced literacy"?


Nope, it's because there's been an increase of states in the Midwest and South require all public students to take the ACT --including ones who aren't planning to go to college--as their high school statewide assessment.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2023 11:03     Subject: Act Test Scores For Us Students Drop To New 30-Year Low
ACT scores dropped during and after the pandemic but had also been dropping before that. Could this be related to high schoolers who were never taught to read properly and are victims of "balanced literacy"?
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2023 10:41     Subject: Act Test Scores For Us Students Drop To New 30-Year Low
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some states require all juniors to take the ACT.



Not around here.


True. But it does it does skew the data quite a bit.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2023 08:30     Subject: Act Test Scores For Us Students Drop To New 30-Year Low
Anonymous wrote:Some states require all juniors to take the ACT.



Not around here.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2023 08:27     Subject: Act Test Scores For Us Students Drop To New 30-Year Low
Some states require all juniors to take the ACT.

Anonymous
Post 10/11/2023 15:37     Subject: Act Test Scores For Us Students Drop To New 30-Year Low
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:ACT scores do not indicate or have anything to do with how well you will do in college.

The sooner they do away with these things, the better. Sadly, it won't be fast enough for my Junior.



It certainly IS an indicator of how well someone will do academically in college.


NP. Disagree.


Tell us you bomb standardized tests without telling us you bomb standardized tests.

dp.. it's difficult to assess how well a person would do in elite colleges even if they bombed the SATs because most elite colleges don't accept kids who completely bombed the SATs.

I did not do well on the SATs (I'm over 45). I went to a no name state u because I didn't have the financial means to go to a more expensive school, but I also bombed the SATs.

I ended up working for a FAANG and doing well for myself, regardless.


It’s not a story of one particular kid bombing the test, it’s that the average score is at a 30 year low. So, a system wide failure.

Why wouldn’t you want to address it? Well-resourced kids are doing pretty well BTW. It’s the under-resourced kids who aren’t getting the education they need to do well. So, you should be concerned. Are there student who thrive anyway? Sure. But they’re exceptions not the rule.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2023 14:49     Subject: Act Test Scores For Us Students Drop To New 30-Year Low
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:ACT scores do not indicate or have anything to do with how well you will do in college.

The sooner they do away with these things, the better. Sadly, it won't be fast enough for my Junior.



It certainly IS an indicator of how well someone will do academically in college.


NP. Disagree.


Tell us you bomb standardized tests without telling us you bomb standardized tests.

dp.. it's difficult to assess how well a person would do in elite colleges even if they bombed the SATs because most elite colleges don't accept kids who completely bombed the SATs.

I did not do well on the SATs (I'm over 45). I went to a no name state u because I didn't have the financial means to go to a more expensive school, but I also bombed the SATs.

I ended up working for a FAANG and doing well for myself, regardless.


Yeah, that’s your experience. However, most of the people surrounding you DID do well on standardized tests, though.

You’re narrow pathway to “doing well” for yourself is hardly dispositive of the question of whether standardized tests are predictive or not.

The fact is that they are predictive, and arguing that they’re not is tilting at windmills anyway.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2023 14:41     Subject: Act Test Scores For Us Students Drop To New 30-Year Low
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:ACT scores do not indicate or have anything to do with how well you will do in college.

The sooner they do away with these things, the better. Sadly, it won't be fast enough for my Junior.



It certainly IS an indicator of how well someone will do academically in college.


NP. Disagree.


Tell us you bomb standardized tests without telling us you bomb standardized tests.

dp.. it's difficult to assess how well a person would do in elite colleges even if they bombed the SATs because most elite colleges don't accept kids who completely bombed the SATs.

I did not do well on the SATs (I'm over 45). I went to a no name state u because I didn't have the financial means to go to a more expensive school, but I also bombed the SATs.

I ended up working for a FAANG and doing well for myself, regardless.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2023 14:40     Subject: Act Test Scores For Us Students Drop To New 30-Year Low
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:ACT scores do not indicate or have anything to do with how well you will do in college.

The sooner they do away with these things, the better. Sadly, it won't be fast enough for my Junior.


Ah, how convenient for you to feel this way! Much easier for you and educators, isn’t it?


If it’s not predictive, why does the Academic Index weight the test score 2x what it weights the GPA?
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2023 14:37     Subject: Act Test Scores For Us Students Drop To New 30-Year Low
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:ACT scores do not indicate or have anything to do with how well you will do in college.

The sooner they do away with these things, the better. Sadly, it won't be fast enough for my Junior.



It certainly IS an indicator of how well someone will do academically in college.


NP. Disagree.


Tell us you bomb standardized tests without telling us you bomb standardized tests.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2023 14:29     Subject: Act Test Scores For Us Students Drop To New 30-Year Low
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:ACT scores do not indicate or have anything to do with how well you will do in college.

The sooner they do away with these things, the better. Sadly, it won't be fast enough for my Junior.



It certainly IS an indicator of how well someone will do academically in college.


NP. Disagree.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2023 14:23     Subject: Act Test Scores For Us Students Drop To New 30-Year Low
This is one of the clearest assessments we have because many students in the Midwest take this test. Some of the schools require it, regardless of TO policies. So it’s capturing a wide range of students unlike some of the SAT scores we’ve been seeing where only top students are taking the test.

For those who say it doesn’t matter, it’s 100% indicative of college preparedness.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2023 14:19     Subject: Act Test Scores For Us Students Drop To New 30-Year Low
Anonymous wrote:ACT scores do not indicate or have anything to do with how well you will do in college.

The sooner they do away with these things, the better. Sadly, it won't be fast enough for my Junior.


Ah, how convenient for you to feel this way! Much easier for you and educators, isn’t it?
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2023 14:18     Subject: Act Test Scores For Us Students Drop To New 30-Year Low
Anonymous wrote:Because good test takers just take the SAT. And bad test takers just apply test optional. What is even the point of the ACT any more?



You are clearly new to college admissions. Try not to post false stuff. Some of us actually try to help others here
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2023 14:18     Subject: Act Test Scores For Us Students Drop To New 30-Year Low
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm thinking it's also due to more kids just taking the test. And a lot of those kids are probably not college ready, but our society has really pushed "college for all" so, many more kids who are not college ready are taking these tests.

Also why is this in the politics forum?


Hasn't the ACT always been for kids who don't/won't do well on the SAT? That hasn't changed.


See above, 1560 or below.