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Anonymous wrote:You can apply even without a CoGAT. Limiting what your child does in their free time in the name of being healthy for one test that is one part of a process to get into a class that close to 20% of the kids are in is an interesting decision. AAP is not that big of a deal. Most of the parents at your kids school are getting on with life and don’t care while you are stopping your kid from camping?

Even if AAP is no big deal for you, can you not recognize it's a big deal for others? Why are you even here other than trolling?

Telling a 7 year old they cannot participate in a fun activity because you are worried about a test for a class that he may or may not be accepted into tells me that a parents priorities are out of whack. A parent can refer if their kid doesn’t score in the top 10% of the CoGat. Most of the kids in AAP are referred and not in-pool.

This is not an exam that provides college credit or can influence scholarship money for college. It is a proxy IQ test for a class that provides limited acceleration for kids. A program that you can apply for from grade 2-7.

The parents are telling a 7 year old that a test is more important then spending time with friends and family. And you think that is a good message to send?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are you making such a big deal about this?

Because one likes one's execution to be quick and clean instead of being dragged out over any dates over "next four weeks".

Seriously? A second grader is thinking in this way? There are problems at the national level with the system. It is out of FCPS' sphere of control. Your kid will take the test at some point and all will work out as it should. Breathe.

As a parent I am worried about my kids getting sick in the fall, esp. with CogAT hanging out there. It's getting cold and my son was playing outdoor sports today and it's so windy the chairs flip over as soon as I stand up. I'd rather prefer the test be done and over with. Just today I said no to his cousin's camping invite because I don't want him get sick and miss the test.

Just get it over with!

WTF??? This is insane!!!

Anonymous wrote:You can apply even without a CoGAT. Limiting what your child does in their free time in the name of being healthy for one test that is one part of a process to get into a class that close to 20% of the kids are in is an interesting decision. AAP is not that big of a deal. Most of the parents at your kids school are getting on with life and don’t care while you are stopping your kid from camping?

Even if AAP is no big deal for you, can you not recognize it's a big deal for others? Why are you even here other than trolling?

You can apply even without a CoGAT. Limiting what your child does in their free time in the name of being healthy for one test that is one part of a process to get into a class that close to 20% of the kids are in is an interesting decision. AAP is not that big of a deal. Most of the parents at your kids school are getting on with life and don’t care while you are stopping your kid from camping?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are you making such a big deal about this?

Because one likes one's execution to be quick and clean instead of being dragged out over any dates over "next four weeks".

Seriously? A second grader is thinking in this way? There are problems at the national level with the system. It is out of FCPS' sphere of control. Your kid will take the test at some point and all will work out as it should. Breathe.

As a parent I am worried about my kids getting sick in the fall, esp. with CogAT hanging out there. It's getting cold and my son was playing outdoor sports today and it's so windy the chairs flip over as soon as I stand up. I'd rather prefer the test be done and over with. Just today I said no to his cousin's camping invite because I don't want him get sick and miss the test.

Just get it over with!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2nd grade teacher at a center school. Most of the kids who got in from the Covid year do not belong. AAP teachers complain about them. CoGat and NNat are the only OBJECTIVE parts of the package. Everything else , including most worksamples, are subjective.

I have felt this way but I am not a teacher, happy to have a teacher say this.

The sad thing is that I think the general trend is to emphasize the subjective parts more, without admitting to the subjectivity.

This is absolutely true; that's why they are calling it "holistic." It creates a black box that parents can't really challenge. You are dependent on the base school teachers understanding your DC well. That said, parents can be looking at their kids through rose colored glasses too. Hence, the importance of standardized testing.

Interesting to hear a bunch of kids that got in during covid do not belong. We are talking about the current 5th graders, right? I know two super smart girls who did not get in. One did not reapply. The other did and got in the following year. I'm talking the type of kid who is considered really smart even within AAP. Parents were shocked because the older two got in and the third is the smartest of their kids.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2nd grade teacher at a center school. Most of the kids who got in from the Covid year do not belong. AAP teachers complain about them. CoGat and NNat are the only OBJECTIVE parts of the package. Everything else , including most worksamples, are subjective.

I have felt this way but I am not a teacher, happy to have a teacher say this.

The sad thing is that I think the general trend is to emphasize the subjective parts more, without admitting to the subjectivity.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting. I wonder what happened? Probably never know.

FWIW, my DS was virtual for 2nd grade and never took the Cogat. Still was accepted into
AAP, even with a mediocre NNAT.

Everyone I know who applied during the 2020-2021 school year got in. Even with kids who clearly don’t need or should be in AAP. It’s gotten much harder since then.

PP here. My oldest was admitted under the old system and my youngest during the pandemic. That cohort may have been picked somewhat randomly but the new admissions seem to be designed to be impossibly difficult. Other than a step towards dismantling AAP, I don't understand what they're doing.

Anonymous wrote:2nd grade teacher at a center school. Most of the kids who got in from the Covid year do not belong. AAP teachers complain about them. CoGat and NNat are the only OBJECTIVE parts of the package. Everything else , including most worksamples, are subjective.

I have felt this way but I am not a teacher, happy to have a teacher say this.

2nd grade teacher at a center school. Most of the kids who got in from the Covid year do not belong. AAP teachers complain about them. CoGat and NNat are the only OBJECTIVE parts of the package. Everything else , including most worksamples, are subjective.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are you making such a big deal about this?

Because one likes one's execution to be quick and clean instead of being dragged out over any dates over "next four weeks".

Seriously? A second grader is thinking in this way?

There are problems at the national level with the system. It is out of FCPS' sphere of control. Your kid will take the test at some point and all will work out as it should. Breathe.

Anonymous wrote:Interesting. I wonder what happened? Probably never know.

FWIW, my DS was virtual for 2nd grade and never took the Cogat. Still was accepted into
AAP, even with a mediocre NNAT.

Everyone I know who applied during the 2020-2021 school year got in. Even with kids who clearly don’t need or should be in AAP. It’s gotten much harder since then.

Anonymous wrote:Why are you making such a big deal about this?

Because one likes one's execution to be quick and clean instead of being dragged out over any dates over "next four weeks".

Why are you making such a big deal about this?