Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 09:03     Subject: Deprograming MAGA

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The ignorance of the left is amazing. Marx would be proud


What is ignorant, exactly. Just making the statement without, oh I don't know, an example or two, doesn't really mean or say anything.


Hillary IS the example.


Exactly... her senior college thesis was titled "Only the Fight". She subscribes to Marxist and Communist rhetoric while ignoring the founding prinicples of this country. Even those bumpkin MAGA folks understand this.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 09:00     Subject: Deprograming MAGA

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hilary Clinton was interviewed yesterday and said those who follow Trump need to be 'deprogram'. What does that even mean?



There is an obvious need to deprogram Trump cult members who have been fed endless toxic mixes of misinformation.

Some Q Anon recoverees have described it being a long process.

I am not sure it is possible for a majority of them now that Russia and a China are both using online misinformation as a major strategic tool to destabilize Western democracies.




WASHINGTON (AP) — China has long been seen by the U.S. as a prolific source of anti-American propaganda but less aggressive in its influence operations than Russia, which has used cyberattacks and covert operations to disrupt U.S. elections and denigrate rivals.

But many in Washington now think China is increasingly adopting tactics associated with Russia — and there’s growing concern the U.S. isn’t doing enough to respond.

U.S. officials and outside experts cite recent examples of China-linked actors generating false news reports with artificial intelligence and posting large volumes of denigrating social media posts. While many of the discovered efforts are amateurish, experts think they signal an apparent willingness from Beijing to try more influence campaigns as part of a broader embrace of covert operations, according to two people familiar with the matter who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 09:00     Subject: Deprograming MAGA

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hilary Clinton was interviewed yesterday and said those who follow Trump need to be 'deprogram'. What does that even mean?



This is pretty rich coming from the person whose campaign started a conspiracy theory, complete with a fake "pee story" that her followers swallowed hook, link, and sinker.


Sorry you cannot believe Trump had been a Russian "asset" since the 1980's. Sorry you cannot believe he wanted a "Trump Tower Moscow." Sorry you cannot believe his campaign manager was being paid by Russian aligned oligarchs in Ukraine and shared voter data with them. Sorry you cannot believe Trump shared classified information with Russia while in the white house. Sorry you cannot believe Trump's national security advisor was being paid by Russian aligned Turkey.

Facts matter and you seen to be devoid of them.


Sorry you cannot believe that the whole Russian collusion delusion was an effort by Hillary and the DNC to divert attention away from Hillary's transgressions.

The FBI "failed to act" on a "clear warning sign" that the bureau was the "target" of a Hillary Clinton-led effort to "manipulate or influence the law enforcement process for political purposes" ahead of the 2016 presidential election, Special Counsel John Durham found.

Durham was referring to intelligence on a plan stirred up by Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign in July 2016 to tie then-candidate Donald Trump to Russia in an effort to distract from the investigation into her use of a private email server and mishandling of classified information.

Durham found that then-CIA Director John Brennan "realized the significance" of the intelligence that Clinton was stirring up a plan to tie Trump to Russia—so much so, he "expeditiously" briefed then-President Barack Obama, then-Vice President Joe Biden, and other top national security officials.

But nothing came of that briefing or of his subsequent referral of the information to the FBI, according to Durham’s final report.

"The aforementioned facts reflect a rather startling and inexplicable failure to adequately consider and incorporate the Clinton Plan intelligence into the FBI’s investigative decision-making in the Crossfire Hurricane investigation," the report states.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-ignored-clear-warning-sign-clinton-led-effort-manipulate-department
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 08:58     Subject: Deprograming MAGA

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The ignorance of the left is amazing. Marx would be proud


What is ignorant, exactly. Just making the statement without, oh I don't know, an example or two, doesn't really mean or say anything.


Hillary IS the example.


What does that even mean?
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 08:57     Subject: Deprograming MAGA

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Typical Chinese response. Reprogram or re-educate people. Glad she was never president with that type of thinking.


+1. This type of thinking, along with her deplorable comment is one reason why she lost the election.

Folks, this type of rhetoric just makes MAGA dig in deeper.

She lost the election because fundamentally Americans have become aholes.


+1

The right ran a 20 year campaign against her for publicly saying she preferred to be a lawyer than a stay at home mom. Whitewater, Benghazi, emails, Vince Foster, you name it. Of course swing voters were not going to support her after such a well funded and prolonged campaign against her.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 08:57     Subject: Deprograming MAGA

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The ignorance of the left is amazing. Marx would be proud


What is ignorant, exactly. Just making the statement without, oh I don't know, an example or two, doesn't really mean or say anything.


Hillary IS the example.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 08:57     Subject: Deprograming MAGA

Anonymous wrote:Hilary Clinton was interviewed yesterday and said those who follow Trump need to be 'deprogram'. What does that even mean?



There is an obvious need to deprogram Trump cult members who have been fed endless toxic mixes of misinformation.

Some Q Anon recoverees have described it being a long process.

I am not sure it is possible for a majority of them now that Russia and a China are both using online misinformation as a major strategic tool to destabilize Western democracies.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 08:56     Subject: Deprograming MAGA

Anonymous wrote:The ignorance of the left is amazing. Marx would be proud


As would Goebbels.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 08:54     Subject: Deprograming MAGA

Anonymous wrote:The ignorance of the left is amazing. Marx would be proud


What is ignorant, exactly. Just making the statement without, oh I don't know, an example or two, doesn't really mean or say anything.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 08:54     Subject: Deprograming MAGA

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Typical Chinese response. Reprogram or re-educate people. Glad she was never president with that type of thinking.


+1. This type of thinking, along with her deplorable comment is one reason why she lost the election.

Folks, this type of rhetoric just makes MAGA dig in deeper.


Here is the full quote. Please tell us what in this quote was wrong or inaccurate.

You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?

The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic — you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people — now how 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric. Now, some of those folks — they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America.

But the other basket — and I know this because I see friends from all over America here — I see friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina and Texas — as well as, you know, New York and California — but that other basket of people are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they’re just desperate for change. It doesn’t really even matter where it comes from. They don’t buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won’t wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroine, feel like they’re in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well.


So she said half the people, the racists and xenophobes, are deplorable, and the other half are the forgotten Americans who the democrats and her propsective administration needs (and I would note, the Biden Administration has) to focus on.

So what in that quote was objectionable? Unless you are one of the racists, of course.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 08:53     Subject: Deprograming MAGA

The ignorance of the left is amazing. Marx would be proud
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 08:48     Subject: Deprograming MAGA

Anonymous wrote:She said deprogram

And MAGA’s can’t argue against that, so they change her words to “reprogram”


Deprogram against what? Into what?
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 08:47     Subject: Deprograming MAGA

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hilary Clinton was interviewed yesterday and said those who follow Trump need to be 'deprogram'. What does that even mean?



This is pretty rich coming from the person whose campaign started a conspiracy theory, complete with a fake "pee story" that her followers swallowed hook, link, and sinker.


Sorry you cannot believe Trump had been a Russian "asset" since the 1980's. Sorry you cannot believe he wanted a "Trump Tower Moscow." Sorry you cannot believe his campaign manager was being paid by Russian aligned oligarchs in Ukraine and shared voter data with them. Sorry you cannot believe Trump shared classified information with Russia while in the white house. Sorry you cannot believe Trump's national security advisor was being paid by Russian aligned Turkey.

Facts matter and you seen to be devoid of them.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 08:47     Subject: Deprograming MAGA

jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She isn't the only one. Judge Tanya Chutkan (July 2023) after sentencing a Trump supporter to 7 months in prison on 4 misdemeanors “I really encourage you in the time you have…to broaden your sources of information, to consider reading some viewpoints that are different from your own…to reconsider some of the positions you have taken and to understand that you may have been motivated by certain beliefs that may not have served you all that well.”


LOL. Telling a MAGA to "broaden your sources of information, to consider reading some viewpoints that are different from your own" is like telling Superman to consider trying kryptonite.


I would suspect MAGA is very well-read because they read leftist sources as well as right wing sources. When powerful people want to ‘reprogram’ them, it’s best to know that in advance.


"MAGA is very well-read". You guys kill me. You are going to be Chris Rock and Dave Chapelle out of work.


Interesting choices. They don’t say what you like so you want them dismissed.. I suspect you support non-violent offenders kept in solitary for long periods of time, right?
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 08:45     Subject: Deprograming MAGA

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Typical Chinese response. Reprogram or re-educate people. Glad she was never president with that type of thinking.


+1. This type of thinking, along with her deplorable comment is one reason why she lost the election.

Folks, this type of rhetoric just makes MAGA dig in deeper.

She lost the election because fundamentally Americans have become aholes.