jsteele
10/06/2023 10:03
Subject: Operation Trident Results in 48 Arrests
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Don’t be fooled. Arrest means nothing.
Appropriate jail time means something.
Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) once had the answer, back when he was the mayor of Richmond. He pioneered Project Exile, the key feature being:
- federal incarceration at a prison at least 50 miles from the convict’s residence.
The 50+ miles is crucial. Recidivism under Senator Kaine’s program dropped to single digits. And lowering recidivism is the key to breaking the crime cycle we are stuck in.
The 50+ Mike provision was so effective because our current model jails convicts close to home, where they know some or many of their fellow inmates, and their family/girlfriends are very close by.
This 50+ mile factor may not seem significant to you. But you do not live in the same world as these convicts. Do not delude yourself; they seriously live in a mindset you cannot comprehend.
Sadly, Senator Kaine was attacked - from within his own party - over Project Exile with the false but all too common accusation it was “racist.”
Tim Kaine needs to revisit his earlier success and champion the program nation wide as a way to rescue our crime-plagued cities. The current “no incarceration” program is clearly not working, and innocent people are dying.
I've heard that DC tried this, in order to break up the gangs and families of criminals. It was successful but likened to other programs designed to break up families such as the residential schools for Indian children and was cancelled.
Breaking the cycle of generational poverty and generational crime is akin to cultural genocide.
Other than the DC jail, DC has no local prisons. After Lorton was closed, prisoners have been sent all over the country.
Anonymous
10/06/2023 09:48
Subject: Operation Trident Results in 48 Arrests
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Don’t be fooled. Arrest means nothing.
Appropriate jail time means something.
Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) once had the answer, back when he was the mayor of Richmond. He pioneered Project Exile, the key feature being:
- federal incarceration at a prison at least 50 miles from the convict’s residence.
The 50+ miles is crucial. Recidivism under Senator Kaine’s program dropped to single digits. And lowering recidivism is the key to breaking the crime cycle we are stuck in.
The 50+ Mike provision was so effective because our current model jails convicts close to home, where they know some or many of their fellow inmates, and their family/girlfriends are very close by.
This 50+ mile factor may not seem significant to you. But you do not live in the same world as these convicts. Do not delude yourself; they seriously live in a mindset you cannot comprehend.
Sadly, Senator Kaine was attacked - from within his own party - over Project Exile with the false but all too common accusation it was “racist.”
Tim Kaine needs to revisit his earlier success and champion the program nation wide as a way to rescue our crime-plagued cities. The current “no incarceration” program is clearly not working, and innocent people are dying.
I've heard that DC tried this, in order to break up the gangs and families of criminals. It was successful but likened to other programs designed to break up families such as the residential schools for Indian children and was cancelled.
Breaking the cycle of generational poverty and generational crime is akin to cultural genocide.
Anonymous
10/06/2023 09:35
Subject: Re:Operation Trident Results in 48 Arrests
Agreed. I listened to the whole press conference, and never got my answer to this question. How are they holding Matthew Graves accountable for not prosecuting these dangerous individuals, and the courts for re-releasing them? The police have been clear all along that there’s no point in arresting them because they just let back out on the streets immediately. We keep asking police to risk their lives and do their jobs, but where’s the backup for them? They are quiet quitting and I cant say i blame them.
Middle of the road Dem in DC. I cant be the only one!
Anonymous
10/06/2023 09:34
Subject: Operation Trident Results in 48 Arrests
I remember a guy arrested for assaulting and carjacking a little old lady at Sam's Club in VA. He had 36 outstanding bench warrants, issued by VA, at the time of arrests. Doesn't seem to be a practice limited to DC but would be good to not only know how widespread it is in the DMV but to change it, region-wide.
Anonymous
10/06/2023 09:32
Subject: Re:Operation Trident Results in 48 Arrests
Anonymous
Anonymous
10/06/2023 08:21
Subject: Operation Trident Results in 48 Arrests
+1,000,000. More of this please. Lots more of this. DC needs to get crime under control before mortgage rates drop below 5% when just about every family will flee to VA/MD.
Anonymous
10/06/2023 08:02
Subject: Operation Trident Results in 48 Arrests
Anonymous wrote:
Don’t be fooled. Arrest means nothing.
Appropriate jail time means something.
Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) once had the answer, back when he was the mayor of Richmond. He pioneered Project Exile, the key feature being:
- federal incarceration at a prison at least 50 miles from the convict’s residence.
The 50+ miles is crucial. Recidivism under Senator Kaine’s program dropped to single digits. And lowering recidivism is the key to breaking the crime cycle we are stuck in.
The 50+ Mike provision was so effective because our current model jails convicts close to home, where they know some or many of their fellow inmates, and their family/girlfriends are very close by.
This 50+ mile factor may not seem significant to you. But you do not live in the same world as these convicts. Do not delude yourself; they seriously live in a mindset you cannot comprehend.
Sadly, Senator Kaine was attacked - from within his own party - over Project Exile with the false but all too common accusation it was “racist.”
Tim Kaine needs to revisit his earlier success and champion the program nation wide as a way to rescue our crime-plagued cities. The current “no incarceration” program is clearly not working, and innocent people are dying.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 23:02
Subject: Re:Operation Trident Results in 48 Arrests
I'll feel safer when the crime goes down. Until then...
Anonymous
10/05/2023 22:46
Subject: Operation Trident Results in 48 Arrests
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My guess is you have less than 100-200 people causing mayhem repeatedly. Maybe they enjoy it like a game. Whatever the case may be, they need to be dealt with harshly.
It’s not 200…it’s maybe 1,500-2,000….but your theory is generally correct. If we could magically, overnight, detain and hold 2,000 specific, known individuals, all on the same day, the character of this city would change instantly.
-someone privy to this
I’m here and ready to believe you’re someone who knows something. Why not?
How many of those 2k are under 18? And they’re known also?
All are over 18 in the data set I’m citing. Juvenile records law completely obfuscate keeping any kind of statistical database on minors, at least at my agency (not MPD, btw).
Spitballing a guess? Maybe another thousand, just based on contact report data, but that’s not a city wide sample, only for the wards where we have service areas/properties.
What is the top three root causes for gun use cited in Washington. (like narcotics disputes or distribution, theft, mental illness or something else)?
Anonymous
10/05/2023 22:07
Subject: Operation Trident Results in 48 Arrests
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My guess is you have less than 100-200 people causing mayhem repeatedly. Maybe they enjoy it like a game. Whatever the case may be, they need to be dealt with harshly.
It’s not 200…it’s maybe 1,500-2,000….but your theory is generally correct. If we could magically, overnight, detain and hold 2,000 specific, known individuals, all on the same day, the character of this city would change instantly.
-someone privy to this
I’m here and ready to believe you’re someone who knows something. Why not?
How many of those 2k are under 18? And they’re known also?
All are over 18 in the data set I’m citing. Juvenile records law completely obfuscate keeping any kind of statistical database on minors, at least at my agency (not MPD, btw).
Spitballing a guess? Maybe another thousand, just based on contact report data, but that’s not a city wide sample, only for the wards where we have service areas/properties.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 21:46
Subject: Operation Trident Results in 48 Arrests
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My guess is you have less than 100-200 people causing mayhem repeatedly. Maybe they enjoy it like a game. Whatever the case may be, they need to be dealt with harshly.
It’s not 200…it’s maybe 1,500-2,000….but your theory is generally correct. If we could magically, overnight, detain and hold 2,000 specific, known individuals, all on the same day, the character of this city would change instantly.
-someone privy to this
I’m here and ready to believe you’re someone who knows something. Why not?
How many of those 2k are under 18? And they’re known also?
Anonymous
10/05/2023 21:22
Subject: Operation Trident Results in 48 Arrests
Anonymous wrote:My guess is you have less than 100-200 people causing mayhem repeatedly. Maybe they enjoy it like a game. Whatever the case may be, they need to be dealt with harshly.
It’s not 200…it’s maybe 1,500-2,000….but your theory is generally correct. If we could magically, overnight, detain and hold 2,000 specific, known individuals, all on the same day, the character of this city would change instantly.
-someone privy to this
Anonymous
10/05/2023 21:09
Subject: Operation Trident Results in 48 Arrests
Anonymous wrote:My guess is you have less than 100-200 people causing mayhem repeatedly. Maybe they enjoy it like a game. Whatever the case may be, they need to be dealt with harshly.
Isn't this basically what the last police chief said? If the jail some of these repeat criminals, then DC will be safer.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 21:04
Subject: Operation Trident Results in 48 Arrests
This is a such a "guns on the table" PR stunt chasing low hanging fruit.
Better than nothing but means zero as far as day-to-day public safety.
Better than nothing but means zero as far as day-to-day public safety.