Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 14:11     Subject: Dr Duran’a Email - Anyone think this is weird?
Anonymous wrote:Here’s my question: where does it end? I mean, for those who support this kind of race based decision making.

What groups are deserving of recognition beyond Hispanic? Are we doing this for every group? Which ones specifically?

Also, my dear friend growing up had a Hispanic last name, whose father came to the US as a lawyer, and who was a National Merit Scholar. S/he was racially white and only had white friends. Is s/he the Hispanic “community” you are seeking to recognize?


Finally - the troll at long last plays their card.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 14:10     Subject: Dr Duran’a Email - Anyone think this is weird?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m part of a minority myself who also has a “month” and consider myself a progressive But I think it’s a bit strange for Dr Duran to honor “Latino Student Leaders.” Something about honoring students on the basis of their race and ethnicity doesn’t sit well with me.


Okay so?

They're Latino STUDENT LEADERS being honored during Hispanic/Latino heritage month. They're not just being honored for being Latino. I'm sure if they have Irish student leaders, they'd also get a shout out during their month.

Find something legitimate to worry about. This is a bad faith argument at its core. This is like if during Black History Month, Duran was honoring Black Civil Rights Activists and all you heard was the black part. It's a descriptor, not a noun.


There is a difference between honoring Black Civil Rights activists whose contributions were ignored, and by honoring Latino student leaders. How does it work exactly? How does APS determine whether a student is Latino given that it’s a cultural/ethnic category?


It's interesting that you seem confused about the demographic information that school collects upon enrollment.

To answer your question, you check a box on the enrollment form.


It’s very strange though to look up the demographics of a student and pick a student from that demographic to give them an award. We might as well become Iraq or Lebanon where every one is picked based on their religious or ethnic background


I'm sure you're just being obtuse, but I'll play along a little longer.
It hasn't occurred to you that teachers and staff and maybe even fellow student at each school may have nominated these students?
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 13:41     Subject: Dr Duran’a Email - Anyone think this is weird?
Anonymous wrote:Here’s my question: where does it end? I mean, for those who support this kind of race based decision making.

What groups are deserving of recognition beyond Hispanic? Are we doing this for every group? Which ones specifically?

Also, my dear friend growing up had a Hispanic last name, whose father came to the US as a lawyer, and who was a National Merit Scholar. S/he was racially white and only had white friends. Is s/he the Hispanic “community” you are seeking to recognize?


I wonder if people like you ever get tired of the lame slippery slope "where does it end" argument.?
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 13:28     Subject: Dr Duran’a Email - Anyone think this is weird?
Here’s my question: where does it end? I mean, for those who support this kind of race based decision making.

What groups are deserving of recognition beyond Hispanic? Are we doing this for every group? Which ones specifically?

Also, my dear friend growing up had a Hispanic last name, whose father came to the US as a lawyer, and who was a National Merit Scholar. S/he was racially white and only had white friends. Is s/he the Hispanic “community” you are seeking to recognize?
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 12:08     Subject: Dr Duran’a Email - Anyone think this is weird?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m part of a minority myself who also has a “month” and consider myself a progressive But I think it’s a bit strange for Dr Duran to honor “Latino Student Leaders.” Something about honoring students on the basis of their race and ethnicity doesn’t sit well with me.


Okay so?

They're Latino STUDENT LEADERS being honored during Hispanic/Latino heritage month. They're not just being honored for being Latino. I'm sure if they have Irish student leaders, they'd also get a shout out during their month.

Find something legitimate to worry about. This is a bad faith argument at its core. This is like if during Black History Month, Duran was honoring Black Civil Rights Activists and all you heard was the black part. It's a descriptor, not a noun.


There is a difference between honoring Black Civil Rights activists whose contributions were ignored, and by honoring Latino student leaders. How does it work exactly? How does APS determine whether a student is Latino given that it’s a cultural/ethnic category?


It's interesting that you seem confused about the demographic information that school collects upon enrollment.

To answer your question, you check a box on the enrollment form.


It’s very strange though to look up the demographics of a student and pick a student from that demographic to give them an award. We might as well become Iraq or Lebanon where every one is picked based on their religious or ethnic background
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 07:05     Subject: Dr Duran’a Email - Anyone think this is weird?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m part of a minority myself who also has a “month” and consider myself a progressive But I think it’s a bit strange for Dr Duran to honor “Latino Student Leaders.” Something about honoring students on the basis of their race and ethnicity doesn’t sit well with me.


Okay so?

They're Latino STUDENT LEADERS being honored during Hispanic/Latino heritage month. They're not just being honored for being Latino. I'm sure if they have Irish student leaders, they'd also get a shout out during their month.

Find something legitimate to worry about. This is a bad faith argument at its core. This is like if during Black History Month, Duran was honoring Black Civil Rights Activists and all you heard was the black part. It's a descriptor, not a noun.


There is a difference between honoring Black Civil Rights activists whose contributions were ignored, and by honoring Latino student leaders. How does it work exactly? How does APS determine whether a student is Latino given that it’s a cultural/ethnic category?


It's interesting that you seem confused about the demographic information that school collects upon enrollment.

To answer your question, you check a box on the enrollment form.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 06:22     Subject: Dr Duran’a Email - Anyone think this is weird?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m part of a minority myself who also has a “month” and consider myself a progressive But I think it’s a bit strange for Dr Duran to honor “Latino Student Leaders.” Something about honoring students on the basis of their race and ethnicity doesn’t sit well with me.


Okay so?

They're Latino STUDENT LEADERS being honored during Hispanic/Latino heritage month. They're not just being honored for being Latino. I'm sure if they have Irish student leaders, they'd also get a shout out during their month.

Find something legitimate to worry about. This is a bad faith argument at its core. This is like if during Black History Month, Duran was honoring Black Civil Rights Activists and all you heard was the black part. It's a descriptor, not a noun.


There is a difference between honoring Black Civil Rights activists whose contributions were ignored, and by honoring Latino student leaders. How does it work exactly? How does APS determine whether a student is Latino given that it’s a cultural/ethnic category?


You know you are right. I 100% bet that APS threw all the Spanish sounding last names in a hat and just picked them out.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 23:21     Subject: Dr Duran’a Email - Anyone think this is weird?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m part of a minority myself who also has a “month” and consider myself a progressive But I think it’s a bit strange for Dr Duran to honor “Latino Student Leaders.” Something about honoring students on the basis of their race and ethnicity doesn’t sit well with me.


Okay so?

They're Latino STUDENT LEADERS being honored during Hispanic/Latino heritage month. They're not just being honored for being Latino. I'm sure if they have Irish student leaders, they'd also get a shout out during their month.

Find something legitimate to worry about. This is a bad faith argument at its core. This is like if during Black History Month, Duran was honoring Black Civil Rights Activists and all you heard was the black part. It's a descriptor, not a noun.


There is a difference between honoring Black Civil Rights activists whose contributions were ignored, and by honoring Latino student leaders. How does it work exactly? How does APS determine whether a student is Latino given that it’s a cultural/ethnic category?
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 15:47     Subject: Dr Duran’a Email - Anyone think this is weird?
Anonymous wrote:I was planning to email Duran to ask him if/when he was honoring my European heritage so I can submit my son for a shout out.


You do realize this is something APS has done for years, even prior to Duran?
When your heritage gets an official recognition month/week/day by the federal government, maybe your son will be honored.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 15:37     Subject: Dr Duran’a Email - Anyone think this is weird?
I was planning to email Duran to ask him if/when he was honoring my European heritage so I can submit my son for a shout out.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 14:53     Subject: Dr Duran’a Email - Anyone think this is weird?
Anonymous wrote:This guy can’t take a sip of water without people complaining. He earns every penny in my opinion.


This.

Y'all are relentless and it's a wonder anyone is in public service anymore. Social media and anonymous commenting on the internet has turned public service into a nightmare.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 14:48     Subject: Dr Duran’a Email - Anyone think this is weird?
Anonymous wrote:I’m part of a minority myself who also has a “month” and consider myself a progressive But I think it’s a bit strange for Dr Duran to honor “Latino Student Leaders.” Something about honoring students on the basis of their race and ethnicity doesn’t sit well with me.


Okay so?

They're Latino STUDENT LEADERS being honored during Hispanic/Latino heritage month. They're not just being honored for being Latino. I'm sure if they have Irish student leaders, they'd also get a shout out during their month.

Find something legitimate to worry about. This is a bad faith argument at its core. This is like if during Black History Month, Duran was honoring Black Civil Rights Activists and all you heard was the black part. It's a descriptor, not a noun.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 13:51     Subject: Dr Duran’a Email - Anyone think this is weird?
Anonymous wrote:I’m part of a minority myself who also has a “month” and consider myself a progressive But I think it’s a bit strange for Dr Duran to honor “Latino Student Leaders.” Something about honoring students on the basis of their race and ethnicity doesn’t sit well with me.


Why does stuff like this bother you? Other than the messages or IG posts or VOLUNTARY events to honor the various groups . . . . I am literally required to do nothing to recognize, support, etc. these things. Nor are your. I don't take offense that I'm not included in a "month" and it would never occur to me to feel victimized by one of them.

Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 12:54     Subject: Dr Duran’a Email - Anyone think this is weird?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Patrick Murphy wanted me to ask if y'all missed him yet?


Him, no. His competent staff, yes.
People may not have liked Chadwick or Tara Nattrass; but they knew what they were doing and worked together like adults.


Are you KIDDING me? You thought Chadwick and Nattrass were good? Oy.


As I said, people may not have liked them, but yes they did know what they were doing and the departments worked together. Just because you don't like what they proposed or did does not mean they weren't competent. Duran's staff has expanded too broadly, is full of incompetence and/or laziness, and the departments not only do not work together - some refuse to work with the other departments or coordinate anything.


Efficient implementation of useless/damaging programs is not a plus, paper-pusher
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2023 12:49     Subject: Dr Duran’a Email - Anyone think this is weird?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Patrick Murphy wanted me to ask if y'all missed him yet?


Him, no. His competent staff, yes.
People may not have liked Chadwick or Tara Nattrass; but they knew what they were doing and worked together like adults.


Are you KIDDING me? You thought Chadwick and Nattrass were good? Oy.


As I said, people may not have liked them, but yes they did know what they were doing and the departments worked together. Just because you don't like what they proposed or did does not mean they weren't competent. Duran's staff has expanded too broadly, is full of incompetence and/or laziness, and the departments not only do not work together - some refuse to work with the other departments or coordinate anything.