Anonymous
Post 10/17/2023 19:29     Subject: Artificial turf
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My in-laws outside Denver have it. They spent about 100k on hardscape and astroturf. They have dogs with drains under the faux grass. They love it. Plus good for environment bc not watering it.


Oh please, it is not good for the environment. It is demonstrably terrible for the environment.

In a dry area to avoid watering you should use xeriscaping.

I'm wondering if there's an industry shill in this discussion. Astroturf for the astroturf.


So it’s better to use rocks and gravel as a “yard” instead of an artificial turf? AYFKM?

Because rocks and gravel are somehow better for the environment than an equally sterile patch of AstroTurf?

How about “which is more comfortable to walk on/play on/enjoy? “ You know - the important things that people ask of a yard? Would you rather walk barefoot on a patch of rocks and gravel or on artificial turf? Which would you rather sit on? Which is easier to keep clean and free of debris/leaves?


A gravel and rock yard is just as much a biological dead zone as a astroturf yard. In that case, why not at least pick the option of the one that’s at least comfortable to enjoy.


You think posters here are for the turf lobby? I think some people have have rocks in their heads.


Wow, you sure got triggered! Xeriscaping is landscaping designed to reduce the need for irrigation, and it's commonly used in drought-prone areas. It relies heavily on plants that are native and thus suited to thrive in the region. It is not all rocks, as you suggest, and can be both beneficial to the environment and aesthetically pleasing.

And yes, I would indeed rather walk on a xeriscaped yard, free of chemicals and certainly free of plastic! Of course I also don't view leaves as dirty. I have studied horticulture and am comfortable working with nature.


You may have studied horticulture, but you know squat about chemistry.

Rocks and gravel and native plants are all made of chemicals, too. And some of those native plants will kill you if you eat them. Plastic turf? Not so much.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2023 17:34     Subject: Artificial turf
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My in-laws outside Denver have it. They spent about 100k on hardscape and astroturf. They have dogs with drains under the faux grass. They love it. Plus good for environment bc not watering it.


Oh please, it is not good for the environment. It is demonstrably terrible for the environment.

In a dry area to avoid watering you should use xeriscaping.

I'm wondering if there's an industry shill in this discussion. Astroturf for the astroturf.


So it’s better to use rocks and gravel as a “yard” instead of an artificial turf? AYFKM?

Because rocks and gravel are somehow better for the environment than an equally sterile patch of AstroTurf?

How about “which is more comfortable to walk on/play on/enjoy? “ You know - the important things that people ask of a yard? Would you rather walk barefoot on a patch of rocks and gravel or on artificial turf? Which would you rather sit on? Which is easier to keep clean and free of debris/leaves?


A gravel and rock yard is just as much a biological dead zone as a astroturf yard. In that case, why not at least pick the option of the one that’s at least comfortable to enjoy.


You think posters here are for the turf lobby? I think some people have have rocks in their heads.


Wow, you sure got triggered! Xeriscaping is landscaping designed to reduce the need for irrigation, and it's commonly used in drought-prone areas. It relies heavily on plants that are native and thus suited to thrive in the region. It is not all rocks, as you suggest, and can be both beneficial to the environment and aesthetically pleasing.

And yes, I would indeed rather walk on a xeriscaped yard, free of chemicals and certainly free of plastic! Of course I also don't view leaves as dirty. I have studied horticulture and am comfortable working with nature.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2023 16:55     Subject: Artificial turf
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My in-laws outside Denver have it. They spent about 100k on hardscape and astroturf. They have dogs with drains under the faux grass. They love it. Plus good for environment bc not watering it.


Oh please, it is not good for the environment. It is demonstrably terrible for the environment.

In a dry area to avoid watering you should use xeriscaping.

I'm wondering if there's an industry shill in this discussion. Astroturf for the astroturf.


So it’s better to use rocks and gravel as a “yard” instead of an artificial turf? AYFKM?

Because rocks and gravel are somehow better for the environment than an equally sterile patch of AstroTurf?

How about “which is more comfortable to walk on/play on/enjoy? “ You know - the important things that people ask of a yard? Would you rather walk barefoot on a patch of rocks and gravel or on artificial turf? Which would you rather sit on? Which is easier to keep clean and free of debris/leaves?


A gravel and rock yard is just as much a biological dead zone as a astroturf yard. In that case, why not at least pick the option of the one that’s at least comfortable to enjoy.


You think posters here are for the turf lobby? I think some people have have rocks in their heads.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2023 22:58     Subject: Re:Artificial turf
I have it in a 3' x 10' area of my backyard that is between two planting beds and is heavily-shaded. I needed a place for my dog to be able to go pee and not get muddy, and I also wanted to be able to set up my dog's paddling pool there in the summer, so rocks or mulch wouldn't work well as a substrate.

The rest of my backyard is either planting beds or real grass. Remarkably, the fake grass blends in well enough with the real grass (when it's freshly-cut) that you can't really tell where the turf and grass meet.

Do I like having plastic in my yard? Not especially.
Do I like having a clean area for my dog to pee, play in the pool, and stay clean? Very much!
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2023 19:42     Subject: Artificial turf
Anonymous wrote:It's pretty common in LA now. Someone should invent a non-petroleum based option like this. True it does not support wild habitat, but there is clear demand and uses for it.


That would be great, along with plastic trees and plastic flowers. Would be great to swap out nature for something more permanent that "blooms" year round in your preferred color palette and is less maintenance. There is clear demand and uses for it.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2023 10:50     Subject: Artificial turf
It's pretty common in LA now. Someone should invent a non-petroleum based option like this. True it does not support wild habitat, but there is clear demand and uses for it.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 23:12     Subject: Artificial turf
My friend has turf because she lives in an area with a high fire and drought risk

My kids desperately want to turn off the whole yard so that they can play soccer on it
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 22:26     Subject: Re:Artificial turf
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Friends did this in their backyard, natural grass in the front. I LOVE it. They got a kind that looks very natural, but with 3 small kids it's perfect. I dream of turf and eliminating all of the maintenance, weeds, etc.


Me too! I follow this Insta called shitlawns! It’s the best


Thanks for the tip - just checked it out. It gave me design inspiration. I LOVE it. So great for kids. No messy plants, bugs, or noisy birds. I don't think there's any maintenance, unless you have to paint the lawn every few years.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 22:12     Subject: Re:Artificial turf
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One of the best decisions we ever made. Our backyard gets a lot of shade and takes forever to dry after rain and snow. It was so muddy the kids never wanted to go out and I didn't want the dog out there. Turf has been a game changer. Esp with the dog! No more brown spots in the grass.


Gross. A plastic yard.


No, only partially plastic. We have many trees, bushes and flowers as well.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 22:11     Subject: Artificial turf
Anonymous wrote:How do they clean the dog poop off of it?


You just pick it up in bag. If it happens to be funny, hose or pressure-wash it. There is drainage below.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 22:03     Subject: Re:Artificial turf
Anonymous wrote:Friends did this in their backyard, natural grass in the front. I LOVE it. They got a kind that looks very natural, but with 3 small kids it's perfect. I dream of turf and eliminating all of the maintenance, weeds, etc.


Me too! I follow this Insta called shitlawns! It’s the best
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 19:22     Subject: Artificial turf
Anonymous wrote:My in-laws outside Denver have it. They spent about 100k on hardscape and astroturf. They have dogs with drains under the faux grass. They love it. Plus good for environment bc not watering it.


Oh please, it is not good for the environment. It is demonstrably terrible for the environment.

In a dry area to avoid watering you should use xeriscaping.

I'm wondering if there's an industry shill in this discussion. Astroturf for the astroturf.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 17:52     Subject: Artificial turf
I swear if I put turf in my yard weeds would grow on it.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 17:46     Subject: Artificial turf
How do they clean the dog poop off of it?
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 17:21     Subject: Artificial turf
My in-laws outside Denver have it. They spent about 100k on hardscape and astroturf. They have dogs with drains under the faux grass. They love it. Plus good for environment bc not watering it.