Anonymous
10/03/2023 10:25
Subject: Help me settle a debate about time off
Anonymous wrote:I am a fed and this sounds so crazy to me. I’m required to take a lunch break b/c I’m covered under a collective bargaining agreement. My PTO is used in lieu of duty time, not break time. I’m not burning my own leave AND then giving up my break. And honestly I wouldn’t want to work with people who hound me about taking a lunch break just because I had a morning dr’s appointment.
And you sound lazy to me.
Anonymous
10/03/2023 10:24
Subject: Help me settle a debate about time off
Anonymous wrote:I'd do whatever I wanted. PTO is mine, not my employers.
I do what I want too. But I don't work for the gov't or clock watchers.
Anonymous
10/03/2023 10:22
Subject: Help me settle a debate about time off
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Probably not. But I have a lot scruples when it comes to this kind of thing and worry about appearances so it would stress me out. YMMV.
What scruples are you talking about?
Eating lunch violates scruples?
PTO is work time reserved for personal needs. OP didn't shirk work on the clock.
It can look bad to come in late, for whatever reason, and then go off running errands during a full lunch period. Whether you know it or want to recognize it or agree or not.
And this is why we hate RTO where being seen with your butt in a chair is all important.
OP here. I've actually been fully remote for 15 years. I know perception is everything, which is why I care.
Are you worried about your boss or coworkers? Boss will see that you put in for PTO.
Anonymous
10/03/2023 10:22
Subject: Help me settle a debate about time off
I am a fed and this sounds so crazy to me. I’m required to take a lunch break b/c I’m covered under a collective bargaining agreement. My PTO is used in lieu of duty time, not break time. I’m not burning my own leave AND then giving up my break. And honestly I wouldn’t want to work with people who hound me about taking a lunch break just because I had a morning dr’s appointment.
Anonymous
10/03/2023 10:22
Subject: Help me settle a debate about time off
What?? Where do you work? Go ahead and take lunch. My goodness the micromanagers are out in full force today.
Anonymous
10/03/2023 10:22
Subject: Help me settle a debate about time off
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Probably not. But I have a lot scruples when it comes to this kind of thing and worry about appearances so it would stress me out. YMMV.
What scruples are you talking about?
Eating lunch violates scruples?
PTO is work time reserved for personal needs. OP didn't shirk work on the clock.
It can look bad to come in late, for whatever reason, and then go off running errands during a full lunch period. Whether you know it or want to recognize it or agree or not.
Found the factory worker.
Anonymous
10/03/2023 10:21
Subject: Help me settle a debate about time off
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'd grab lunch as I go back to work.
I wouldn't get to the office/home office and then leave again to get lunch.
We're talking early. I was in the office by 8:30.
Coworkers are hounding me to go back out and do what I need to do in a few hours.
How old are you?
Why does it matter? It looks bad.
It matters because the question show immaturity - a full grown, fully functioning adult would not ask or entertain such a question.
What "looks bad"? Taking lunch? In your head, maybe, nobody else cares unless the person in question does this regularly.
You WFH, don't you?
Anonymous
10/03/2023 10:21
Subject: Help me settle a debate about time off
I'd do whatever I wanted. PTO is mine, not my employers.
Anonymous
10/03/2023 10:20
Subject: Help me settle a debate about time off
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'd grab lunch as I go back to work.
I wouldn't get to the office/home office and then leave again to get lunch.
We're talking early. I was in the office by 8:30.
Coworkers are hounding me to go back out and do what I need to do in a few hours.
How old are you?
Why does it matter? It looks bad.
It matters because the question show immaturity - a full grown, fully functioning adult would not ask or entertain such a question.
What "looks bad"? Taking lunch? In your head, maybe, nobody else cares unless the person in question does this regularly.
Anonymous
10/03/2023 10:20
Subject: Help me settle a debate about time off
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Probably not. But I have a lot scruples when it comes to this kind of thing and worry about appearances so it would stress me out. YMMV.
What scruples are you talking about?
Eating lunch violates scruples?
PTO is work time reserved for personal needs. OP didn't shirk work on the clock.
It can look bad to come in late, for whatever reason, and then go off running errands during a full lunch period. Whether you know it or want to recognize it or agree or not.
And this is why we hate RTO where being seen with your butt in a chair is all important.
OP here. I've actually been fully remote for 15 years. I know perception is everything, which is why I care.
Anonymous
10/03/2023 10:19
Subject: Help me settle a debate about time off
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'd grab lunch as I go back to work.
I wouldn't get to the office/home office and then leave again to get lunch.
We're talking early. I was in the office by 8:30.
Coworkers are hounding me to go back out and do what I need to do in a few hours.
Why did you need PTO for an appointment when you were still at work by 8:30?
And yes, of course, unless I had a lot of work to catch up on, I would still take my regular breaks during the day.
Anonymous
10/03/2023 10:18
Subject: Help me settle a debate about time off
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Probably not. But I have a lot scruples when it comes to this kind of thing and worry about appearances so it would stress me out. YMMV.
What scruples are you talking about?
Eating lunch violates scruples?
PTO is work time reserved for personal needs. OP didn't shirk work on the clock.
It can look bad to come in late, for whatever reason, and then go off running errands during a full lunch period. Whether you know it or want to recognize it or agree or not.
And this is why we hate RTO where being seen with your butt in a chair is all important.
Anonymous
10/03/2023 10:16
Subject: Help me settle a debate about time off
Yes if you took PTO. Double yes if it’s common at your office to take lunch.
Anonymous
10/03/2023 10:16
Subject: Help me settle a debate about time off
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Probably not. But I have a lot scruples when it comes to this kind of thing and worry about appearances so it would stress me out. YMMV.
What scruples are you talking about?
Eating lunch violates scruples?
PTO is work time reserved for personal needs. OP didn't shirk work on the clock.
It can look bad to come in late, for whatever reason, and then go off running errands during a full lunch period. Whether you know it or want to recognize it or agree or not.
Anonymous
10/03/2023 10:15
Subject: Help me settle a debate about time off
Anonymous wrote:If you came in late for a an early doctor's appointment (and took PTO for it), would you still take a lunch break to run some errands if things were slow by the time lunch rolled around?
If you took PTO you should take lunch. if I had taken PTO, I’d take lunch, slow or not.
Now in a job that was flex and I did not have to use PTO, no, I would work through lunch.