Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 14:37     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even if criminals get arrested, they know they’ll skate right back onto the streets as long as DC is controlled by Democrats. Nothing is changing any time soon.

Why should cops even bother risking their lives to make an arrest?


Risking their lives? It’s not even that stark. What about risking their pensions and even their career employability just because they might make a justifiable use of force and the protester-class decides to target them?

Not worth it. Let the crimes happen, show up when the perps are gone, take a report, tell the victim to file an insurance claim and go home safe at the end of the day. See a crime in progress? Look the other way, pretend you didn’t see it.


This x 100. You make a human being feel like they’re a monster and project that you’re going to prosecute them if an interaction with a hardened criminal doesn’t go look good on someone’s cell phone camera and they’re going to have a natural human response and start acting exactly as PP describes. Why go the extra mile and be proactive about stopping crimes before they happen when it’s putting your career and your family’s reputation and financial security in jeopardy? There are absolutely no incentives for cops to not just dial it in and do the bare minimum.


If you're violently slamming unarmed, non-violent, non-threatening people onto the ground, face down, putting your knee on their back, just because they asked you what's going on or why you stopped them, you might in fact be a monster.


Yes, you are in that situation. And no one is excusing that type of behavior.

But you have cops that have had their lives ruined for shooting a girl who was about to stab someone to death, like the officer who shot Ma’Khia Bryant.

If you can’t not have your name dragged through the mud and fight for your life and career in court for shooting someone who was a millisecond away from stabbing a girl with a knife, why would you even bother trying to prevent crimes before they happen by doing proactive policing?


If the cop did nothing wrong then the bodycam video will prove it. Often a big part of the problem is that police don't use them or when they do, rather than dealing with the issue head-on the police want to circle the wagons and then the video isn't released until weeks later, letting anger grow in the community, making them think there's a coverup. The other part is that police need to learn how to de-escalate situations. Ma’Khia Bryant died because of nothing more than an argument over an unmade bed.

Do better with communities, communicate with them. Learn how to work with people rather than confronting every situation with force. That's how you deal with it.


You suburban Maryland folks do have interesting ideas about crime.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 12:17     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:More importantly, who is supporting and protecting these criminals? How should residents help expose and prosecute them?


Pretty much every person that lives in the DMV to greater or lesser extent.

Everyone does their part to make sure no one notices patterns, or acts upon them. Some go above and beyond and excuse the inexcusable.

You're not going to solve a problem people even refuse to identify.


Wrong. We notice patterns. In my SW neighborhood, shootings keep happening in the same blocks, over and over again - and it's where there are people constantly hanging around, cars coming and going, stopped in the street. Obvious signs of where a dealer is doing business. But the police do nothing until there's a bad deal or beef that results in shots fired, then they run around like Keystone cops. And the next week it's back to business as usual at that same location, and again police doing nothing. Police has been told, council has been told, but they choose to ignore it. It's not us citizens not seeing the patterns, it's the police.

If I'm wrong then show me where the police was specifically ordered not to go after it.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 12:13     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even if criminals get arrested, they know they’ll skate right back onto the streets as long as DC is controlled by Democrats. Nothing is changing any time soon.

Why should cops even bother risking their lives to make an arrest?


Risking their lives? It’s not even that stark. What about risking their pensions and even their career employability just because they might make a justifiable use of force and the protester-class decides to target them?

Not worth it. Let the crimes happen, show up when the perps are gone, take a report, tell the victim to file an insurance claim and go home safe at the end of the day. See a crime in progress? Look the other way, pretend you didn’t see it.


This x 100. You make a human being feel like they’re a monster and project that you’re going to prosecute them if an interaction with a hardened criminal doesn’t go look good on someone’s cell phone camera and they’re going to have a natural human response and start acting exactly as PP describes. Why go the extra mile and be proactive about stopping crimes before they happen when it’s putting your career and your family’s reputation and financial security in jeopardy? There are absolutely no incentives for cops to not just dial it in and do the bare minimum.


If you're violently slamming unarmed, non-violent, non-threatening people onto the ground, face down, putting your knee on their back, just because they asked you what's going on or why you stopped them, you might in fact be a monster.


Yes, you are in that situation. And no one is excusing that type of behavior.

But you have cops that have had their lives ruined for shooting a girl who was about to stab someone to death, like the officer who shot Ma’Khia Bryant.

If you can’t not have your name dragged through the mud and fight for your life and career in court for shooting someone who was a millisecond away from stabbing a girl with a knife, why would you even bother trying to prevent crimes before they happen by doing proactive policing?


If the cop did nothing wrong then the bodycam video will prove it. Often a big part of the problem is that police don't use them or when they do, rather than dealing with the issue head-on the police want to circle the wagons and then the video isn't released until weeks later, letting anger grow in the community, making them think there's a coverup. The other part is that police need to learn how to de-escalate situations. Ma’Khia Bryant died because of nothing more than an argument over an unmade bed.

Do better with communities, communicate with them. Learn how to work with people rather than confronting every situation with force. That's how you deal with it.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 11:08     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:More importantly, who is supporting and protecting these criminals? How should residents help expose and prosecute them?


Pretty much every person that lives in the DMV to greater or lesser extent.

Everyone does their part to make sure no one notices patterns, or acts upon them. Some go above and beyond and excuse the inexcusable.

You're not going to solve a problem people even refuse to identify.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 11:00     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even if criminals get arrested, they know they’ll skate right back onto the streets as long as DC is controlled by Democrats. Nothing is changing any time soon.

Why should cops even bother risking their lives to make an arrest?


Risking their lives? It’s not even that stark. What about risking their pensions and even their career employability just because they might make a justifiable use of force and the protester-class decides to target them?

Not worth it. Let the crimes happen, show up when the perps are gone, take a report, tell the victim to file an insurance claim and go home safe at the end of the day. See a crime in progress? Look the other way, pretend you didn’t see it.


This x 100. You make a human being feel like they’re a monster and project that you’re going to prosecute them if an interaction with a hardened criminal doesn’t go look good on someone’s cell phone camera and they’re going to have a natural human response and start acting exactly as PP describes. Why go the extra mile and be proactive about stopping crimes before they happen when it’s putting your career and your family’s reputation and financial security in jeopardy? There are absolutely no incentives for cops to not just dial it in and do the bare minimum.


If you're violently slamming unarmed, non-violent, non-threatening people onto the ground, face down, putting your knee on their back, just because they asked you what's going on or why you stopped them, you might in fact be a monster.


Yes, you are in that situation. And no one is excusing that type of behavior.

But you have cops that have had their lives ruined for shooting a girl who was about to stab someone to death, like the officer who shot Ma’Khia Bryant.

If you can’t not have your name dragged through the mud and fight for your life and career in court for shooting someone who was a millisecond away from stabbing a girl with a knife, why would you even bother trying to prevent crimes before they happen by doing proactive policing?
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 10:14     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even if criminals get arrested, they know they’ll skate right back onto the streets as long as DC is controlled by Democrats. Nothing is changing any time soon.

Why should cops even bother risking their lives to make an arrest?


Risking their lives? It’s not even that stark. What about risking their pensions and even their career employability just because they might make a justifiable use of force and the protester-class decides to target them?

Not worth it. Let the crimes happen, show up when the perps are gone, take a report, tell the victim to file an insurance claim and go home safe at the end of the day. See a crime in progress? Look the other way, pretend you didn’t see it.


This x 100. You make a human being feel like they’re a monster and project that you’re going to prosecute them if an interaction with a hardened criminal doesn’t go look good on someone’s cell phone camera and they’re going to have a natural human response and start acting exactly as PP describes. Why go the extra mile and be proactive about stopping crimes before they happen when it’s putting your career and your family’s reputation and financial security in jeopardy? There are absolutely no incentives for cops to not just dial it in and do the bare minimum.


If you're violently slamming unarmed, non-violent, non-threatening people onto the ground, face down, putting your knee on their back, just because they asked you what's going on or why you stopped them, you might in fact be a monster.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 09:08     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC Council Member Charles Allen declares “This violence is unacceptable.” DC Democrats including the police force and union supported him. But now, they say “Charles Allen has turned a blind eye to concerned residents. Rather Charles Allen chooses to cater to an activist crowd whose agenda is anti-police whatever the cost.”

“Allen’s reform measures have resulted in a tragic loss of life and an increase in violent crime.”

So sad how DC keeps voting for more destruction of its own.


Hi. Defunding the police isn't about being anti-police. It's about being anti-militarization of the police. It's about putting budget pressure on the police departments to reduce spending on high tech guns, armored vehicles, etc. It's about repurposing those funds to social net programs to build positive changes in communities. Its about police departments reprioritizing community policing rather than military tactical ops.

Just because when MPD faced budget pressure they decided to downsize the force doesn't mean the decision to shrink/hold their budget was wrong. It means their mgmt didn't make the right choices to retain force size while shrinking these expensive and largely unnecessary purchases of high tech people killing gear.


Can you show me in the police budget the expenditure for armored vehicles or high tech guns?

Your screed, which you continue to keep posting, has been soundly debunked.


What is a high tech gun?

Is that one of them thar gunz that shoots boolets that go around corners?
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 09:00     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even if criminals get arrested, they know they’ll skate right back onto the streets as long as DC is controlled by Democrats. Nothing is changing any time soon.

Why should cops even bother risking their lives to make an arrest?


Risking their lives? It’s not even that stark. What about risking their pensions and even their career employability just because they might make a justifiable use of force and the protester-class decides to target them?

Not worth it. Let the crimes happen, show up when the perps are gone, take a report, tell the victim to file an insurance claim and go home safe at the end of the day. See a crime in progress? Look the other way, pretend you didn’t see it.


This x 100. You make a human being feel like they’re a monster and project that you’re going to prosecute them if an interaction with a hardened criminal doesn’t go look good on someone’s cell phone camera and they’re going to have a natural human response and start acting exactly as PP describes. Why go the extra mile and be proactive about stopping crimes before they happen when it’s putting your career and your family’s reputation and financial security in jeopardy? There are absolutely no incentives for cops to not just dial it in and do the bare minimum.


WRONG. It's not the interactions with hardened criminals where force can be justified that we have an issue with. It's the crap like unprovoked and unwarranted violent bodyslamming of 97 pound grannies to the ground and things like that, where police violence CAN NOT be justified.

The bottom line is y'all need more common sense, better self-discipline and better training.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 08:52     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:We moved out to Virginia, and literally don’t step foot in DC anymore. All of their “defund the police” did it. Crooks ain’t as dumb as DC voters.


Hope not to Fairfax or Loudoun county! Not quite as bad but getting there.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 08:39     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC Council Member Charles Allen declares “This violence is unacceptable.” DC Democrats including the police force and union supported him. But now, they say “Charles Allen has turned a blind eye to concerned residents. Rather Charles Allen chooses to cater to an activist crowd whose agenda is anti-police whatever the cost.”

“Allen’s reform measures have resulted in a tragic loss of life and an increase in violent crime.”

So sad how DC keeps voting for more destruction of its own.


Hi. Defunding the police isn't about being anti-police. It's about being anti-militarization of the police. It's about putting budget pressure on the police departments to reduce spending on high tech guns, armored vehicles, etc. It's about repurposing those funds to social net programs to build positive changes in communities. Its about police departments reprioritizing community policing rather than military tactical ops.

Just because when MPD faced budget pressure they decided to downsize the force doesn't mean the decision to shrink/hold their budget was wrong. It means their mgmt didn't make the right choices to retain force size while shrinking these expensive and largely unnecessary purchases of high tech people killing gear.


Can you show me in the police budget the expenditure for armored vehicles or high tech guns?

Your screed, which you continue to keep posting, has been soundly debunked.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 08:35     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC Council Member Charles Allen declares “This violence is unacceptable.” DC Democrats including the police force and union supported him. But now, they say “Charles Allen has turned a blind eye to concerned residents. Rather Charles Allen chooses to cater to an activist crowd whose agenda is anti-police whatever the cost.”

“Allen’s reform measures have resulted in a tragic loss of life and an increase in violent crime.”

So sad how DC keeps voting for more destruction of its own.


Hi. Defunding the police isn't about being anti-police. It's about being anti-militarization of the police. It's about putting budget pressure on the police departments to reduce spending on high tech guns, armored vehicles, etc. It's about repurposing those funds to social net programs to build positive changes in communities. Its about police departments reprioritizing community policing rather than military tactical ops.

Just because when MPD faced budget pressure they decided to downsize the force doesn't mean the decision to shrink/hold their budget was wrong. It means their mgmt didn't make the right choices to retain force size while shrinking these expensive and largely unnecessary purchases of high tech people killing gear.


oh come on, stop lying.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 08:32     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC Council Member Charles Allen declares “This violence is unacceptable.” DC Democrats including the police force and union supported him. But now, they say “Charles Allen has turned a blind eye to concerned residents. Rather Charles Allen chooses to cater to an activist crowd whose agenda is anti-police whatever the cost.”

“Allen’s reform measures have resulted in a tragic loss of life and an increase in violent crime.”

So sad how DC keeps voting for more destruction of its own.


Hi. Defunding the police isn't about being anti-police. It's about being anti-militarization of the police. It's about putting budget pressure on the police departments to reduce spending on high tech guns, armored vehicles, etc. It's about repurposing those funds to social net programs to build positive changes in communities. Its about police departments reprioritizing community policing rather than military tactical ops.

Just because when MPD faced budget pressure they decided to downsize the force doesn't mean the decision to shrink/hold their budget was wrong. It means their mgmt didn't make the right choices to retain force size while shrinking these expensive and largely unnecessary purchases of high tech people killing gear.


It's October 4th.

How many murders in DC so far this year?

How many square miles is the District?
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 08:23     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even if criminals get arrested, they know they’ll skate right back onto the streets as long as DC is controlled by Democrats. Nothing is changing any time soon.

Why should cops even bother risking their lives to make an arrest?


Risking their lives? It’s not even that stark. What about risking their pensions and even their career employability just because they might make a justifiable use of force and the protester-class decides to target them?

Not worth it. Let the crimes happen, show up when the perps are gone, take a report, tell the victim to file an insurance claim and go home safe at the end of the day. See a crime in progress? Look the other way, pretend you didn’t see it.


This x 100. You make a human being feel like they’re a monster and project that you’re going to prosecute them if an interaction with a hardened criminal doesn’t go look good on someone’s cell phone camera and they’re going to have a natural human response and start acting exactly as PP describes. Why go the extra mile and be proactive about stopping crimes before they happen when it’s putting your career and your family’s reputation and financial security in jeopardy? There are absolutely no incentives for cops to not just dial it in and do the bare minimum.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 07:45     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

Anonymous wrote:Who the heck is responsible and how do we hold them accountable to bring safety and peace to this town?


You could start with our woke City Council. Have you emailed your representative yet and demanded accountability on the crime issue? And emailed back when s/he gives you a template response?
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2023 00:35     Subject: 3 people shot at the Point restaurant in SW

More importantly, who is supporting and protecting these criminals? How should residents help expose and prosecute them?