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Anonymous wrote:^^ Also Harvard Law accepts students from 150 institutions for a class 560. Look at some of these schools! https://hls.harvard.edu/jdadmissions/apply-to-harvard-law-school/jdapplicants/hls-profile-and-facts/undergraduate-institutions/#:~:text=The%20following%20is%20a%20list,the%202023%E2%80%932024%20school%20year.

I don’t think that stat says what you think it says. 150 schools in a class of 560? Doesn’t sound like that precludes 100 of them being Harvard undergrads

It says exactly what it says. HLS takes from 150 schools. So, yes, 310 are from the same school. I didn't say anything else. This thread is about Honor College state schools v elite SLAC types. Go read the list. LOTS of state schools listed.

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Anonymous wrote:I have been told by multiple people on this board that I made this story up, but a HS friend of mine turned down UVA oos to attend University of Delaware Honors College on a full ride scholarship. She went on to get a Harvard graduate degree.

Looking back, I should have done the same, but I didn’t want to go to school so close to home

My husband did this exact thing. Turned down Cornell and Dartmouth for U of Delaware Honors on a full ride (plus the cost of books, summer travel, etc thrown in). Went from Delaware to the School of Medicine at Hopkins.

His close Delaware honors friends were similar. Closest friend went on to a PhD program at Princeton, another to a PhD at Carnegie Mellon. There are very smart kids in state honors programs.

Back in the 90s, I was a finalist for the U of Delaware Honors program. Would have gladly gone. I wound up at Hopkins with a 60% tuition scholarship instead (and turned down UVA OOS). For me and my family, it was all about the money.

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Anonymous wrote:How many students is Harvard accepting from any given state school vs. the number of applicants from that school's honors college with high GPAs?

There is a list provided above of the 150 schools that Harvard Law takes from. Lots of state schools. GPA (high) is also provided. I don't think there is any break out of who attended an honors program and who didn't, but in my personal experience, HLS takes the no. 1 student from each of those schools, so presumably in honors???

My point is that, at any given state school, you are competing against dozens if not hundreds of other high GPA students for that single spot at HLS.

Anonymous wrote:^^ Also Harvard Law accepts students from 150 institutions for a class 560. Look at some of these schools! https://hls.harvard.edu/jdadmissions/apply-to-harvard-law-school/jdapplicants/hls-profile-and-facts/undergraduate-institutions/#:~:text=The%20following%20is%20a%20list,the%202023%E2%80%932024%20school%20year.

I don’t think that stat says what you think it says. 150 schools in a class of 560? Doesn’t sound like that precludes 100 of them being Harvard undergrads

I can fund four years at an elite college but if DC gets into a big state honors college (and maybe some merit aid to boot) I can also help with grad school. If they end up at an elite grad, the undercard name won’t matter to any prospective employer.

There is more pressure to continue to excel in a state honors program (and there will be a lot of smart kids there too). Your opportunities are not going to be as good if you don't do really well. However, many top schools have far more grade inflation and a slightly lower GPA isn't going to kill as many opportunities when you have a big name on your resume. If you do well and want to save $$, you'll have great options coming from a state honors program (as many on this thread are proof of) but there is more downside too in my opinion.

DS chose an OOS U state honors program over more prestigious universities. He turned down Cornell, GA Tech, UVA and VA Tech to attend the U state program. U state program ranked 10th in the country and about $47K cheaper per year. He’s happy as a clam there.

Anonymous wrote:Me: Indiana University to Oxford to HYP, all full-ride. Huge believer in state universities and what they have to offer, including superb education, first-class mentoring, and personal attention. Very much hoping DCs will attend state schools.

+1. Dad of UVA student who is now at Oxford and will be applying to law schools in a year. Great experience at a great in-state price. (What did you do at Princeton? it doesn't have much of a graduate program)

Anonymous wrote:How many students is Harvard accepting from any given state school vs. the number of applicants from that school's honors college with high GPAs?

There is a list provided above of the 150 schools that Harvard Law takes from. Lots of state schools. GPA (high) is also provided. I don't think there is any break out of who attended an honors program and who didn't, but in my personal experience, HLS takes the no. 1 student from each of those schools, so presumably in honors???

Me: Indiana University to Oxford to HYP, all full-ride. Huge believer in state universities and what they have to offer, including superb education, first-class mentoring, and personal attention. Very much hoping DCs will attend state schools.

How many students is Harvard accepting from any given state school vs. the number of applicants from that school's honors college with high GPAs?

^^ Also Harvard Law accepts students from 150 institutions for a class 560. Look at some of these schools! https://hls.harvard.edu/jdadmissions/apply-to-harvard-law-school/jdapplicants/hls-profile-and-facts/undergraduate-institutions/#:~:text=The%20following%20is%20a%20list,the%202023%E2%80%932024%20school%20year.

Anonymous wrote:From personal experience, a 3.5 from HYPS + LSAT in the 170s was enough for admission to several top 10 law schools. No hooks.

Not true for me and many Harvard undergrads. Harvard Law (no 4 or 5) 75th percentile had a 3.98 last year; median was 3.92 and the lowest accepted student (probably veteran) was a 3.82. No 3.5s. LSAT 75th percentile was a 176 (meaning 25% were higher); median 174 and bottom of class at 170.

From personal experience, a 3.5 from HYPS + LSAT in the 170s was enough for admission to several top 10 law schools. No hooks.