Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 12:28     Subject: Why should we take in Venezuelans?

Trump said we needed to protect Venezuelan refugees. If even he's onboard, how is it debatable?
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 12:17     Subject: Why should we take in Venezuelans?

Anonymous wrote:Do progressives realize how many Europeans were turned away in the days of Ellis Island et al? It has never been a free-for-all even when immigration was restricted to white Europeans. This is a mess.


Yes, what happened to requiring people to have a sponsor and be free of disease?
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 12:15     Subject: Re:Why should we take in Venezuelans?

Anonymous wrote:We shouldn't. Economic migration is not a reason to grant asylum.

Yet, Biden is granting TPP status to over 700,000 Venezuelans. And, he doesn't think this will be a magnet for more to come?
These people are leaving their socialist "utopia" for which they voted.


NP. I fully agree that we shouldn't and that economic migration is not a reason to grant asylum. But with respect to TPP, I'm not sure what else Biden was supposed to do. I live in NYC and we've had an influx of Venezuelans who are now wards of the city, and NYC taxpayers are paying for their basic needs, shelter, etc. (at the price of cuts to city services). If they can't work, taxpayers have to care for them.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 12:11     Subject: Why should we take in Venezuelans?

Anonymous wrote:If Americans are at all familiar with South America, they should know they are bringing in future Republicans. Venezuelans, Argentinians, Brazilians, Chileans are not soft and fuzzy liberals. Opening up the border to Venezuelans brings no long term political gains for Democrats. It's a gift to the Republican Party. Like Cubans.


The Venezuelans are poor. The Cubans who emigrated were the rich people displaced by Castro. Whatever the South Americans' natural inclinations regarding policy, the fact is that policy is an afterthought for Republicans. Their main priority these days is being afraid of nonwhite people.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 11:36     Subject: Why should we take in Venezuelans?

If Americans are at all familiar with South America, they should know they are bringing in future Republicans. Venezuelans, Argentinians, Brazilians, Chileans are not soft and fuzzy liberals. Opening up the border to Venezuelans brings no long term political gains for Democrats. It's a gift to the Republican Party. Like Cubans.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 11:26     Subject: Why should we take in Venezuelans?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They'll make better citizens than our meth-addled rural citizens.



Maybe you haven’t seen the footage from urban areas like SF, Philly, NY, Chicago, LA, Detroit or DC recently.


Black people, amirite?


It’s a rainbow of drug addled citizens in blue urban areas. Have you seen Kensington in Philly?
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 11:25     Subject: Why should we take in Venezuelans?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because it is racist to turn down brown people. Everyone is welcome. America is not a racist country.



Sure, you’re more than welcome to come. Wait in line like everyone else!


Spend money making our system more efficient. There shouldn't be much of a line. Accept them or turn them away, but do it quickly.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 11:24     Subject: Why should we take in Venezuelans?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They'll make better citizens than our meth-addled rural citizens.



Maybe you haven’t seen the footage from urban areas like SF, Philly, NY, Chicago, LA, Detroit or DC recently.


Black people, amirite?
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 11:23     Subject: Why should we take in Venezuelans?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because immigration is the founding principal of our nation. Without it, we wouldn't exist.


Open borders are not immigration.


If we had open borders, we wouldn't be making so many arrests.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 10:59     Subject: Why should we take in Venezuelans?

Anonymous wrote:They'll make better citizens than our meth-addled rural citizens.



Maybe you haven’t seen the footage from urban areas like SF, Philly, NY, Chicago, LA, Detroit or DC recently.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 10:43     Subject: Why should we take in Venezuelans?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because immigration is the founding principal of our nation. Without it, we wouldn't exist.


Open borders are not immigration.


We don't have open boarders, but you like how that sounds politically, so you'll keep saying it.


We have de facto open borders
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 10:41     Subject: Why should we take in Venezuelans?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because immigration is the founding principal of our nation. Without it, we wouldn't exist.


Open borders are not immigration.


We don't have open boarders, but you like how that sounds politically, so you'll keep saying it.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 10:18     Subject: Why should we take in Venezuelans?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because immigration is the founding principal of our nation. Without it, we wouldn't exist.


Open borders are not immigration.


+ a million
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 09:35     Subject: Why should we take in Venezuelans?

Do progressives realize how many Europeans were turned away in the days of Ellis Island et al? It has never been a free-for-all even when immigration was restricted to white Europeans. This is a mess.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 09:30     Subject: Why should we take in Venezuelans?

Anonymous wrote:Because immigration is the founding principal of our nation. Without it, we wouldn't exist.


Open borders are not immigration.