Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 22:46     Subject: MCPS MCAP scores by school available
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:When are the individual MCAP scores available?


We got ours in the mail last Spring for the previous year.


So one year later? Seems weird for it to take so long in 2023. Back in the 90s, my home state sent the results within 6 weeks, and the tests were all done by scantron.


It's a new test that the state basically invented so they're still working out the bugs.


The tests have been scored (which is how those tables linked to in the OP are created). MCPS has the reports. MCPS is simply not sending them yet to families.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 11:14     Subject: MCPS MCAP scores by school available
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When are the individual MCAP scores available?


We got ours in the mail last Spring for the previous year.


So one year later? Seems weird for it to take so long in 2023. Back in the 90s, my home state sent the results within 6 weeks, and the tests were all done by scantron.


It's a new test that the state basically invented so they're still working out the bugs.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 11:13     Subject: MCPS MCAP scores by school available
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Anonymous wrote:This is the equivalent of letting students grade their own homework. Those test scores will come out exactly how the mcps boe wants them to.


MCPS does not grade the state exams. They just proctor them. The state evaluates the tests. Not that MCPS WOULDN'T manipulate the grades if they could, but since it's not their test, they can't.


Of course, but I love blaming MCPS for everything. Like the other day I was late to work and I told my boss it was MCPS' fault.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 10:58     Subject: MCPS MCAP scores by school available
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When are the individual MCAP scores available?


We got ours in the mail last Spring for the previous year.


So one year later? Seems weird for it to take so long in 2023. Back in the 90s, my home state sent the results within 6 weeks, and the tests were all done by scantron.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 10:42     Subject: Re:MCPS MCAP scores by school available
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Anonymous wrote: Yeah, it’s really going to be interesting when the MCAP starts counting for 20% of the final grade in certain high school classes this year! It’s either a pretty terribly written test or our schools are doing a terrible job teaching kids what they are supposed to know.
http://www.marylandpublicschools.org/about/Pages/DAAIT/Assessment/EOCs/index.aspx


Well, it's a new test that hadn't been used before a year or two ago, and there was no basis for comparison. It seems to have much higher expectations than the PARCC which was a national test, but it also seems like the state is trying to improve it. Unfortunately, it will take several more years for that to have meaningful results.


So you are saying that the MCAP is harder than the PARCC -- what is your evidence for this? It's written by the same company. I imagine it is PARCC with a new name. (Which is, btw, exactly what is happening in DC.)


Test questions for MCAP are written by teachers in Maryland and refined by the company that writes them to ensure they are in consistent style.


Where does it say that MD teachers are writing the questions? And even if they are, how does that show that it is a harder test?


https://marylandpublicschools.org/about/Documents/DAAIT/Assessment/MCAP/MCAPGr8FAQ.pdf

start on page seven. I only looked for one example, but this is true of the whole program.


actually, I think it's page 6.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 10:41     Subject: Re:MCPS MCAP scores by school available
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: Yeah, it’s really going to be interesting when the MCAP starts counting for 20% of the final grade in certain high school classes this year! It’s either a pretty terribly written test or our schools are doing a terrible job teaching kids what they are supposed to know.
http://www.marylandpublicschools.org/about/Pages/DAAIT/Assessment/EOCs/index.aspx


Well, it's a new test that hadn't been used before a year or two ago, and there was no basis for comparison. It seems to have much higher expectations than the PARCC which was a national test, but it also seems like the state is trying to improve it. Unfortunately, it will take several more years for that to have meaningful results.


So you are saying that the MCAP is harder than the PARCC -- what is your evidence for this? It's written by the same company. I imagine it is PARCC with a new name. (Which is, btw, exactly what is happening in DC.)


Test questions for MCAP are written by teachers in Maryland and refined by the company that writes them to ensure they are in consistent style.


Where does it say that MD teachers are writing the questions? And even if they are, how does that show that it is a harder test?


https://marylandpublicschools.org/about/Documents/DAAIT/Assessment/MCAP/MCAPGr8FAQ.pdf

start on page seven. I only looked for one example, but this is true of the whole program.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 10:30     Subject: Re:MCPS MCAP scores by school available
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: Yeah, it’s really going to be interesting when the MCAP starts counting for 20% of the final grade in certain high school classes this year! It’s either a pretty terribly written test or our schools are doing a terrible job teaching kids what they are supposed to know.
http://www.marylandpublicschools.org/about/Pages/DAAIT/Assessment/EOCs/index.aspx


Well, it's a new test that hadn't been used before a year or two ago, and there was no basis for comparison. It seems to have much higher expectations than the PARCC which was a national test, but it also seems like the state is trying to improve it. Unfortunately, it will take several more years for that to have meaningful results.


So you are saying that the MCAP is harder than the PARCC -- what is your evidence for this? It's written by the same company. I imagine it is PARCC with a new name. (Which is, btw, exactly what is happening in DC.)


Test questions for MCAP are written by teachers in Maryland and refined by the company that writes them to ensure they are in consistent style.


Where does it say that MD teachers are writing the questions? And even if they are, how does that show that it is a harder test?
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 10:29     Subject: MCPS MCAP scores by school available
Anonymous wrote:When are the individual MCAP scores available?


They are available now. MCPS has them. But they will slow-walk sending them home because the results are not good overall.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 10:28     Subject: Re:MCPS MCAP scores by school available
Anonymous wrote:I peeked at the MCAP Math proficiency scores for Kennedy, Wheaton, Einstein and Northwood, and they were all at 5%.

Blair was the best of the DCC with a 6% proficiency in Math for the MCAP.


But isn’t that because a lot of the more advanced students are taking algebra and geometry in middle school, so the ones taking it in high school are not going to do as well?
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 10:13     Subject: Re:MCPS MCAP scores by school available
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: Yeah, it’s really going to be interesting when the MCAP starts counting for 20% of the final grade in certain high school classes this year! It’s either a pretty terribly written test or our schools are doing a terrible job teaching kids what they are supposed to know.
http://www.marylandpublicschools.org/about/Pages/DAAIT/Assessment/EOCs/index.aspx


Well, it's a new test that hadn't been used before a year or two ago, and there was no basis for comparison. It seems to have much higher expectations than the PARCC which was a national test, but it also seems like the state is trying to improve it. Unfortunately, it will take several more years for that to have meaningful results.


So you are saying that the MCAP is harder than the PARCC -- what is your evidence for this? It's written by the same company. I imagine it is PARCC with a new name. (Which is, btw, exactly what is happening in DC.)


Test questions for MCAP are written by teachers in Maryland and refined by the company that writes them to ensure they are in consistent style.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 09:56     Subject: Re:MCPS MCAP scores by school available
I peeked at the MCAP Math proficiency scores for Kennedy, Wheaton, Einstein and Northwood, and they were all at 5%.

Blair was the best of the DCC with a 6% proficiency in Math for the MCAP.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 09:51     Subject: MCPS MCAP scores by school available
Anonymous wrote:This is the equivalent of letting students grade their own homework. Those test scores will come out exactly how the mcps boe wants them to.


MCPS does not grade the state exams. They just proctor them. The state evaluates the tests. Not that MCPS WOULDN'T manipulate the grades if they could, but since it's not their test, they can't.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 09:43     Subject: MCPS MCAP scores by school available
Anonymous wrote:When are the individual MCAP scores available?


We got ours in the mail last Spring for the previous year.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2023 09:29     Subject: MCPS MCAP scores by school available
When are the individual MCAP scores available?
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2023 17:29     Subject: Re:MCPS MCAP scores by school available
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: Yeah, it’s really going to be interesting when the MCAP starts counting for 20% of the final grade in certain high school classes this year! It’s either a pretty terribly written test or our schools are doing a terrible job teaching kids what they are supposed to know.
http://www.marylandpublicschools.org/about/Pages/DAAIT/Assessment/EOCs/index.aspx


Well, it's a new test that hadn't been used before a year or two ago, and there was no basis for comparison. It seems to have much higher expectations than the PARCC which was a national test, but it also seems like the state is trying to improve it. Unfortunately, it will take several more years for that to have meaningful results.


So you are saying that the MCAP is harder than the PARCC -- what is your evidence for this? It's written by the same company. I imagine it is PARCC with a new name. (Which is, btw, exactly what is happening in DC.)