Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 13:06     Subject: Another day, another mass shooting in DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why don’t we deal with the actual issue which is a cultural problem in the poor communities? Gun laws aren’t going to help because the guns are already here.


Communities that are poor because of redlining and other systemic racism?

People don't turn to crime for fun. They do it when they have no better option.


In the case of teen crime in DC, it does seem they are doing it for fun.


Agree - boredom leads to deviant behavior. No authority figure to tell them no, guide them into making better choices. That's the systemic issue, not racism.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 12:56     Subject: Another day, another mass shooting in DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why don’t we deal with the actual issue which is a cultural problem in the poor communities? Gun laws aren’t going to help because the guns are already here.


Communities that are poor because of redlining and other systemic racism?

People don't turn to crime for fun. They do it when they have no better option.


In the case of teen crime in DC, it does seem they are doing it for fun.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 12:17     Subject: Another day, another mass shooting in DC

Anonymous wrote:Why don’t we deal with the actual issue which is a cultural problem in the poor communities? Gun laws aren’t going to help because the guns are already here.


Communities that are poor because of redlining and other systemic racism?

People don't turn to crime for fun. They do it when they have no better option.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 12:15     Subject: Another day, another mass shooting in DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Two words. Better. Parenting.


Two more. Birth Control.

Every child born into this world deserves to be loved and properly cared for.


And reproductive health care. And social supports. Etc.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 12:15     Subject: Another day, another mass shooting in DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I lay the blame squarely at the feet of the gun lobby and those who’ve insisted the second amendment is an individual right. This is your fault. The blood is on your hands.


There were a lot of homicides by firearm in the city before DC v. Heller (a LOT more if you go back a decade or two), so I'm not sure I see the direct connection here. I'll agree that the black market for illegal firearms is a real problem, and lax enforcement (and perhaps lax laws) are a major issue that needs to be addressed. However, laying this at the feet of legal gun owners, as the OP did, is ludicrous.

If you could somehow make all firearms in civilian hands disappear overnight, I strongly believe you'd still see a lot of violence in the same areas by the same people. Sure, it would likely be less lethal, but let's not just forget the other side of the coin here.



Legal gun owners should be pushing for common sense gun laws that help LEO do their job.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 12:14     Subject: Another day, another mass shooting in DC

Anonymous wrote:Two words. Better. Parenting.


Two more. Birth Control.

Every child born into this world deserves to be loved and properly cared for.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 12:13     Subject: Another day, another mass shooting in DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:4 shot at 14th and Saratoga NE.

Curious how as soon as gun carry permits were forced to be issued in DC we started having mass shootings every other day. Imagine that! Who woulda thunk???? Giving people permits to carry guns created more ……. shootings!

Mind. Blown.


Most guns used in DC crimes (and in general, US urban crime) are trafficked from southern states where illegal straw/bulk purchases are easier.


+1

We need to push for nationwide common sense gun control so LEO can have the tools they need to reduce gun violence.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 12:11     Subject: Another day, another mass shooting in DC

Two words. Better. Parenting.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 12:07     Subject: Another day, another mass shooting in DC

Anonymous wrote:I lay the blame squarely at the feet of the gun lobby and those who’ve insisted the second amendment is an individual right. This is your fault. The blood is on your hands.


There were a lot of homicides by firearm in the city before DC v. Heller (a LOT more if you go back a decade or two), so I'm not sure I see the direct connection here. I'll agree that the black market for illegal firearms is a real problem, and lax enforcement (and perhaps lax laws) are a major issue that needs to be addressed. However, laying this at the feet of legal gun owners, as the OP did, is ludicrous.

If you could somehow make all firearms in civilian hands disappear overnight, I strongly believe you'd still see a lot of violence in the same areas by the same people. Sure, it would likely be less lethal, but let's not just forget the other side of the coin here.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 12:00     Subject: Another day, another mass shooting in DC

Where are the protestors chanting about how black lives matter? Oh, I forgot, black lives only matter when a police officer does the shooting.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 11:32     Subject: Another day, another mass shooting in DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:4 shot at 14th and Saratoga NE.

Curious how as soon as gun carry permits were forced to be issued in DC we started having mass shootings every other day. Imagine that! Who woulda thunk???? Giving people permits to carry guns created more ……. shootings!

Mind. Blown.


Most guns used in DC crimes (and in general, US urban crime) are trafficked from southern states where illegal straw/bulk purchases are easier.


Interestingly, also true of most Mexican cartel gun crime (they get their guns in the US and traffic them to Mexico as gun laws in Mexico are more strict)
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 11:31     Subject: Another day, another mass shooting in DC

Anonymous wrote:4 shot at 14th and Saratoga NE.

Curious how as soon as gun carry permits were forced to be issued in DC we started having mass shootings every other day. Imagine that! Who woulda thunk???? Giving people permits to carry guns created more ……. shootings!

Mind. Blown.


Most guns used in DC crimes (and in general, US urban crime) are trafficked from southern states where illegal straw/bulk purchases are easier.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 11:28     Subject: Another day, another mass shooting in DC

Anonymous wrote:4 shot at 14th and Saratoga NE.

Curious how as soon as gun carry permits were forced to be issued in DC we started having mass shootings every other day. Imagine that! Who woulda thunk???? Giving people permits to carry guns created more ……. shootings!

Mind. Blown.


Legal permit carriers weren't involved. The gun control lobby would benefit enormously from a basic understanding of who is committing city crime, the weapons they're using, and where they get them. Seriously, we'll never get real gun control passed as long as people like you keep talking. Stop it.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 10:54     Subject: Another day, another mass shooting in DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:4 shot at 14th and Saratoga NE.

Curious how as soon as gun carry permits were forced to be issued in DC we started having mass shootings every other day. Imagine that! Who woulda thunk???? Giving people permits to carry guns created more ……. shootings!

Mind. Blown.


Did the person who did the shooting in this case have a permit to carry a concealed pistol in the District of Columbia?

Because if (as is extremely likely) they did not, your rant against decent people finally being allowed to arm themselves for legitimate self protection is pointless and even fraudulent.


+1

This is obviously the case. But otherwise reasonably intelligent, logical people transform into hysterical infants when the subject turns to guns. There is no rational engagement to be had.



It's true, my infant often has tantrums screaming "mine! mine! mine! I want it!" over something that's bad for him. Usually it's candy or a cookie instead of a deadly weapon though.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 10:48     Subject: Another day, another mass shooting in DC

With the confirmation underway with the acting "new" police Chief, does this have any weight on her confirmation? Probably not because a lone person cannot stop the gun violence.