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Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.

On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?

And, the life and health of the mother is a legitimate reason for a woman to choose to abort, IF SHE WANTS TO. Even in Florida.

You would force your DD to have her rapist's baby? Good god.

I don't have the power to force anyone to carry a baby. What an odd statement.

you vote for policies that force women to carry their rapist's baby. It is you that is odd.

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Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.

On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?

And, the life and health of the mother is a legitimate reason for a woman to choose to abort, IF SHE WANTS TO. Even in Florida.

You would force your DD to have her rapist's baby? Good god.

I don't have the power to force anyone to carry a baby. What an odd statement.

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Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.

On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?

Yes. And I also understand that Florida allows for abortions in situations that endanger the life of mom or baby.

And also, you have to consider your personal situation when you make choices. Not only your financial circumstances, but also your goals and moral stances. We are more interested in birth than abortion. I wouldn't interfere with my daughter getting an abortion, but I don't consider abortion to be a foremost consideration, and in fact, I would be much more open to buying my daughter a house and hiring a nanny for her vs encouraging abortion.

Furthermore, I find it odd that blue states are so incredibly fixated on ensuring that young women are able to abort under any circumstances, and are less focused on promoting values and lifestyles that tend to lead to happiness. I want my kid to be happy. Statistically, she's more likely to be happy as a married mom with conservative values. Yes, there are downsides to red states, and to Florida, but looking at the totality of circumstances, she's better off there than in a blue state.

Here's my citations:

Married women happier: https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-long-term-health-and-happiness-marriage-still-matters-86114ced

Conservative women happier: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/why-are-liberal-women-so-unhappy

Anonymous wrote:My kid is in the process of choosing which colleges to apply to and I'm actively encouraging her to apply to Florida colleges. She's not going to get into an Ivy, but will be competitive for state schools and Florida colleges have excellent connections with businesses that enable students to get lucrative internships and grads to be easily recruited into good jobs. Also, the south (particularly Florida, Texas, Tennessee, and Georgia) is much more primed for economic growth than the north, and while you can leave college and move anywhere, it can be easier if you start college in your target area. We moved south in part for this reason, to profit from the regional growth and also to move our kids to a more stable educational/cultural environment.

you mean backwards cultural environment.

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Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.

On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?

And, the life and health of the mother is a legitimate reason for a woman to choose to abort, IF SHE WANTS TO. Even in Florida.

You would force your DD to have her rapist's baby? Good god.

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Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.

On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?

And, the life and health of the mother is a legitimate reason for a woman to choose to abort, IF SHE WANTS TO. Even in Florida.

When doctors feel that the laws are vague, and that they could be charged, they wait until the mother is literally at death's door to perform the abortion, like they'll tell the pregnant woman who is in sepsis to wait in the parking lot until she' at death's door.

I guess that's what you want for your DD. Sad.

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Anonymous wrote:Pushing out DEI and lgbtq+ friendly leadership
Installing R politicians as leaders in colleges rather than people who have experience in academia
Changing admissions criteria by making it more cisgender friendly via recruited athletes
Pushing out existing staff and students

https://www.yahoo.com/news/changes-bring-friction-lawsuits-florida-174345971.html

This is something that the Nazis would've done, and smacks of what they did as a precursor to extermination. Obviously, Desantis and his cronies wouldn't go that far, but pushing out existing staff and students to suit their agenda reminds of the Nazis pushing out the Jews into the ghettos.

FWIW, I am a cisgender female, moderate, sometimes leaning on the conservative side a bit. But, what I see going on in FL is kind of scary.

I was thinking DC might apply to a FL college, but I don't think that's going to happen now. DC is not gay but has a lot of lgbtq friends. FL is becoming very lgbtq unfriendly.

Seems enrollment is up and gender studies and DEI is out.
That is a good thing. Gender studies is a road to nowhere.

OP here.., as I stated, I am not a progressive, and yea, I am not a fan of "wokism". However, pushing out educators and installing politicos in leadership at an academic institution is terrible.

The only reason why they are going after recruited athletes is because the ultra right think that they are "real men", and it will push out the lgtbq students from that college.

Like I said, it's no different than the Nazis or communists kicking out Jews or any academics who disagree with their world view.

And if it's bad that liberals did that to conservatives, then I'll just remind you that "two wrongs don't make a right".

Desantis is determined to go backwards rather than forwards. If you look at history, cultures that are determined to go backwards usually end up falling or becoming third world. Intellectuals are pushed out; conservative dogma takes over.

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Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.

On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?

And, the life and health of the mother is a legitimate reason for a woman to choose to abort, IF SHE WANTS TO. Even in Florida.

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Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.

On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

You understand that anything can happen during a pregnancy such that it becomes a danger to her health, right?

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is in the process of choosing which colleges to apply to and I'm actively encouraging her to apply to Florida colleges. She's not going to get into an Ivy, but will be competitive for state schools and Florida colleges have excellent connections with businesses that enable students to get lucrative internships and grads to be easily recruited into good jobs. Also, the south (particularly Florida, Texas, Tennessee, and Georgia) is much more primed for economic growth than the north, and while you can leave college and move anywhere, it can be easier if you start college in your target area. We moved south in part for this reason, to profit from the regional growth and also to move our kids to a more stable educational/cultural environment.

As someone who lives in the south (North Carolina) and whose child goes to college in Florida, my children cannot wait to leave. The laws are moving backwards here. There is nothing stable about their educational and cultural environment.

My soon-to-be Florida graduate is only looking for jobs up North and my second child is in college up north and her roommate (also from the south) couldn't wait to leave the south either.

Much of the growth in the south over the last 20 years was due to low cost of entry. That will change soon. Look at the cost of living in the Raleigh, Charlotte, Nashville, Florida, etc. People are starting to flee.

That's what makes this country so great. Choices... You and your kids choose one way, pp and her kids choose a different way.
You find a school that values what you value and provides the education you believe is essential.

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Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.

On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

Hope her birth control doesn't fail or, God forbid, she get raped.

On the contrary! Rapists can make excellent fathers.

/s

You're right OP. I live in Florida and it's all very weird, and very bad. Some colleges are starting to push back, now that DeSantis is losing some political capital. We'll see how this shakes out.

Anonymous wrote:My kid is in the process of choosing which colleges to apply to and I'm actively encouraging her to apply to Florida colleges. She's not going to get into an Ivy, but will be competitive for state schools and Florida colleges have excellent connections with businesses that enable students to get lucrative internships and grads to be easily recruited into good jobs. Also, the south (particularly Florida, Texas, Tennessee, and Georgia) is much more primed for economic growth than the north, and while you can leave college and move anywhere, it can be easier if you start college in your target area. We moved south in part for this reason, to profit from the regional growth and also to move our kids to a more stable educational/cultural environment.

As someone who lives in the south (North Carolina) and whose child goes to college in Florida, my children cannot wait to leave. The laws are moving backwards here. There is nothing stable about their educational and cultural environment.

My soon-to-be Florida graduate is only looking for jobs up North and my second child is in college up north and her roommate (also from the south) couldn't wait to leave the south either.

Much of the growth in the south over the last 20 years was due to low cost of entry. That will change soon. Look at the cost of living in the Raleigh, Charlotte, Nashville, Florida, etc. People are starting to flee.

Anonymous wrote:My kid is in the process of choosing which colleges to apply to and I'm actively encouraging her to apply to Florida colleges. She's not going to get into an Ivy, but will be competitive for state schools and Florida colleges have excellent connections with businesses that enable students to get lucrative internships and grads to be easily recruited into good jobs. Also, the south (particularly Florida, Texas, Tennessee, and Georgia) is much more primed for economic growth than the north, and while you can leave college and move anywhere, it can be easier if you start college in your target area. We moved south in part for this reason, to profit from the regional growth and also to move our kids to a more stable educational/cultural environment.

Lol

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Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.

On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.

Hope her birth control doesn't fail or, God forbid, she get raped.

Anonymous wrote:Great! Just make sure she doesn't get pregnant.

On the contrary, she is family oriented and wants to marry and have children one day. So we are primarily considering lifestyle, culture, and economy rather than focusing on abortion availability.