Anonymous
09/28/2023 09:14
Subject: Re:Ball stealers
Anonymous wrote:Your child should not be touching the ball more than 4 times per possession. Most times it should be 2-3 touches.
Why is your child holding the ball so long. Maybe ask the coach what your child is doing wrong, but you stop the ball, send the ball... or stop, 1 touch, send the ball.
I'm confused why your child is possessing the ball long enough for someone to take it.
Too Funny. Where in the world did you come up with a nonsensical theory like this?
If a kid is not taking touches and is instead "sending the ball", when are they developing ball mastery and 1v1 skills?
It's soccer, not kick-ball.
Anonymous
09/25/2023 22:27
Subject: Ball stealers
Anonymous wrote:I thought this thread was going to be about how many soccer balls parents have to buy every year because their kid loses their soccer ball at practice/games lol
LOL. Preach!!!
Anonymous
09/24/2023 17:45
Subject: Ball stealers
Anonymous wrote:Here is why youth soccer in the US stinks. At age 7, you have a kid that is big and athletic. They are not only allowed but usually encouraged to take the ball, dribble, and score. They dominate the game and many teammates rarely touch the ball. When they do, they are told to get it to Bigfoot rather than try themselves.
Fast forward a couple of years. This athletic kid has been nurtured and developed with more playing time, more coaching, and more encouragement. The smaller kids, or later-developing kids, have had little opportunity to develop individual ball confidence and are usually told to play and pass faster rather than take risks. The ball hogs lose the ball by age 12-13 nearly as much as they keep it but it is still ok for them to dribble up because they do it with the confidence that they are the best. Because they have been told this from age 7. It is a ridiculous system and totally limits a diverse talent pool.
More than anything it keeps us from developing good defensive players. They move to other sports where their strength comes in handy. I blame the fact that we still have a lot of youth coaches who don’t really know the game and/or don’t know how to spot various kinds of talent.
Anonymous
09/24/2023 13:11
Subject: Ball stealers
Duh it's a generalization. That was the point of the post.
I'm sure you can think of an exception for everything but I think it's a good summary of some of the fundamental issues with the U.S. system that are common to many teams and leagues.
I'm sure you can think of an exception for everything but I think it's a good summary of some of the fundamental issues with the U.S. system that are common to many teams and leagues.
Anonymous
09/24/2023 11:32
Subject: Ball stealers
Anonymous wrote:Here is why youth soccer in the US stinks. At age 7, you have a kid that is big and athletic. They are not only allowed but usually encouraged to take the ball, dribble, and score. They dominate the game and many teammates rarely touch the ball. When they do, they are told to get it to Bigfoot rather than try themselves.
Fast forward a couple of years. This athletic kid has been nurtured and developed with more playing time, more coaching, and more encouragement. The smaller kids, or later-developing kids, have had little opportunity to develop individual ball confidence and are usually told to play and pass faster rather than take risks. The ball hogs lose the ball by age 12-13 nearly as much as they keep it but it is still ok for them to dribble up because they do it with the confidence that they are the best. Because they have been told this from age 7. It is a ridiculous system and totally limits a diverse talent pool.
This is such a generalization. Sure this happens but I have also seen it not be the case for so many players, coaches, teams, and clubs in the US. If there is one single system that every player experiences in the same way I’m just not seeing it. If anything, there are too many disparate systems
Anonymous
09/24/2023 10:57
Subject: Ball stealers
Here is why youth soccer in the US stinks. At age 7, you have a kid that is big and athletic. They are not only allowed but usually encouraged to take the ball, dribble, and score. They dominate the game and many teammates rarely touch the ball. When they do, they are told to get it to Bigfoot rather than try themselves.
Fast forward a couple of years. This athletic kid has been nurtured and developed with more playing time, more coaching, and more encouragement. The smaller kids, or later-developing kids, have had little opportunity to develop individual ball confidence and are usually told to play and pass faster rather than take risks. The ball hogs lose the ball by age 12-13 nearly as much as they keep it but it is still ok for them to dribble up because they do it with the confidence that they are the best. Because they have been told this from age 7. It is a ridiculous system and totally limits a diverse talent pool.
Fast forward a couple of years. This athletic kid has been nurtured and developed with more playing time, more coaching, and more encouragement. The smaller kids, or later-developing kids, have had little opportunity to develop individual ball confidence and are usually told to play and pass faster rather than take risks. The ball hogs lose the ball by age 12-13 nearly as much as they keep it but it is still ok for them to dribble up because they do it with the confidence that they are the best. Because they have been told this from age 7. It is a ridiculous system and totally limits a diverse talent pool.
Anonymous
09/24/2023 09:47
Subject: Re:Ball stealers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your child should not be touching the ball more than 4 times per possession. Most times it should be 2-3 touches.
Why is your child holding the ball so long. Maybe ask the coach what your child is doing wrong, but you stop the ball, send the ball... or stop, 1 touch, send the ball.
I'm confused why your child is possessing the ball long enough for someone to take it.
This depends on the style of play of the club. All clubs don't play possession style soccer with quick short passes.
DP. No travel clubs play possession. The point of passing after 2-3 touches is increasing the speed of play and break down the defense. When you dribble you slow the speed of play allowing defenders to recover and react. As player age, there are less and less long run/long balls that lead to scoring opportunities. This is because the defenders and defense get better. The players have to be able to play in tight spaces and make pass under pressure in tight spaces. Holding the ball allows the defender to make contact and at that point it is over.
This is reason why US soccer sucks so bad. Coaches and parents like you wants players to pass constantly. Hence, players never develop or improve their dribbling, 1v1, and creativity skills compared to Europeans and other countries.
contrary to your argument 😆 USWNT did make WC quarterfinals.
Anonymous
09/23/2023 21:24
Subject: Re:Ball stealers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your child should not be touching the ball more than 4 times per possession. Most times it should be 2-3 touches.
Why is your child holding the ball so long. Maybe ask the coach what your child is doing wrong, but you stop the ball, send the ball... or stop, 1 touch, send the ball.
I'm confused why your child is possessing the ball long enough for someone to take it.
This depends on the style of play of the club. All clubs don't play possession style soccer with quick short passes.
DP. No travel clubs play possession. The point of passing after 2-3 touches is increasing the speed of play and break down the defense. When you dribble you slow the speed of play allowing defenders to recover and react. As player age, there are less and less long run/long balls that lead to scoring opportunities. This is because the defenders and defense get better. The players have to be able to play in tight spaces and make pass under pressure in tight spaces. Holding the ball allows the defender to make contact and at that point it is over.
This is reason why US soccer sucks so bad. Coaches and parents like you wants players to pass constantly. Hence, players never develop or improve their dribbling, 1v1, and creativity skills compared to Europeans and other countries.
Youth soccer in the US(travel) rarely does anything against full pressure in tight spaces - drills, practice, etc. At best it will be light pressure or 1/2 a## defending with lots of space. Go watch any practice. You practice like you play.
Anonymous
09/23/2023 20:37
Subject: Re:Ball stealers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your child should not be touching the ball more than 4 times per possession. Most times it should be 2-3 touches.
Why is your child holding the ball so long. Maybe ask the coach what your child is doing wrong, but you stop the ball, send the ball... or stop, 1 touch, send the ball.
I'm confused why your child is possessing the ball long enough for someone to take it.
This depends on the style of play of the club. All clubs don't play possession style soccer with quick short passes.
DP. No travel clubs play possession. The point of passing after 2-3 touches is increasing the speed of play and break down the defense. When you dribble you slow the speed of play allowing defenders to recover and react. As player age, there are less and less long run/long balls that lead to scoring opportunities. This is because the defenders and defense get better. The players have to be able to play in tight spaces and make pass under pressure in tight spaces. Holding the ball allows the defender to make contact and at that point it is over.
This is reason why US soccer sucks so bad. Coaches and parents like you wants players to pass constantly. Hence, players never develop or improve their dribbling, 1v1, and creativity skills compared to Europeans and other countries.
Anonymous
09/23/2023 12:24
Subject: Re:Ball stealers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your child should not be touching the ball more than 4 times per possession. Most times it should be 2-3 touches.
Why is your child holding the ball so long. Maybe ask the coach what your child is doing wrong, but you stop the ball, send the ball... or stop, 1 touch, send the ball.
I'm confused why your child is possessing the ball long enough for someone to take it.
This depends on the style of play of the club. All clubs don't play possession style soccer with quick short passes.
DP. No travel clubs play possession. The point of passing after 2-3 touches is increasing the speed of play and break down the defense. When you dribble you slow the speed of play allowing defenders to recover and react. As player age, there are less and less long run/long balls that lead to scoring opportunities. This is because the defenders and defense get better. The players have to be able to play in tight spaces and make pass under pressure in tight spaces. Holding the ball allows the defender to make contact and at that point it is over.
Anonymous
09/23/2023 07:51
Subject: Re:Ball stealers
Anonymous wrote:Your child should not be touching the ball more than 4 times per possession. Most times it should be 2-3 touches.
Why is your child holding the ball so long. Maybe ask the coach what your child is doing wrong, but you stop the ball, send the ball... or stop, 1 touch, send the ball.
I'm confused why your child is possessing the ball long enough for someone to take it.
This depends on the style of play of the club. All clubs don't play possession style soccer with quick short passes.
Anonymous
09/23/2023 07:38
Subject: Re:Ball stealers
Anonymous wrote:Your child should not be touching the ball more than 4 times per possession. Most times it should be 2-3 touches.
Why is your child holding the ball so long. Maybe ask the coach what your child is doing wrong, but you stop the ball, send the ball... or stop, 1 touch, send the ball.
I'm confused why your child is possessing the ball long enough for someone to take it.
Messi routinely dribbles with well over 4+ touches. Can you imagine one of his teammates stealing the ball from him? LOL
Anonymous
09/22/2023 22:51
Subject: Re:Ball stealers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your child should not be touching the ball more than 4 times per possession. Most times it should be 2-3 touches.
Why is your child holding the ball so long. Maybe ask the coach what your child is doing wrong, but you stop the ball, send the ball... or stop, 1 touch, send the ball.
I'm confused why your child is possessing the ball long enough for someone to take it.
Nope. Former college soccer player. I understand where you got this guidance regarding passing but you’ve over generalized it. Dribbling down the field and protecting your ball is a good skill.
Agree with this. And if a player gets the ball in space, they need to use the space to advance the ball and draw defenders out of their shape and away from their teammates to get them open. Nothing worse than seeing a player get the ball with 20 yards of open space in front of them and immediately pass it to a teammate who, the moment they get it, is going to be challenged.
Anonymous
09/22/2023 14:55
Subject: Ball stealers
If the coach is effusive with praise I'd think twice about raising it to the coach.
Anonymous
09/22/2023 14:20
Subject: Ball stealers
Anonymous wrote:I can't believe I'm seeing this in the older age groups but DC's new team has a player who regularly takes balls during games from their own teammates. You would think the coach would put a stop to that but instead the coach praised the player. What am I missing?
Did you have your player raise this concern to the coach?