Anonymous
09/22/2023 14:26
Subject: USYNT Talent ID Centers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just like ODP. these ID clinics have become less and less important since adademies/MLS Next.
On the girls side, I prefer dd playing on a top team with top coaching rather than getting a charity spot in the ID clinic since USSoccer gives spots to all area teams.
Not necessarily true. There are clubs that don't send any players. It is not really a preference of one thing or the other. A good player can be on a top team and also be invited to an ID clinic. There are many top clubs that send multiple players from a good team.
US Soccer is not like ECNL, which wants to keep all its clubs happy. ECNL will give all-conference honors out to every club. (With better clubs getting more kids.) US Soccer is less beholden to the clubs.
What clubs in the area regularly send girls to these ID clinics?
Anonymous
09/22/2023 14:18
Subject: USYNT Talent ID Centers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The link to the calendar of ID clinics on their website is a dud link. Anyone have a good one?
I don't think they publish a lot of information on the ID clinics. It's very hard to predict. I don't think they want the system to be transparent, as they want flexibility.
To answer the OP, my understanding is that the coach needs to recommend players, and a scout needs to come and watch those players, I believe at least twice.
Starts at U14 with a wider net and the pool of players narrows each year. W/r/t Manassas, there were 20 players invited at the U15 level (from NC, VA and MD), and I would assume 30 at U14 based on what was done last year.
So only players who have been scouted before would make it to the ID camp? Our team only got 2 players invited and did significantly better that two other teams in our conference that each got 4-5 players invited. I’m having a hard time believing that our coach only recommended 2 so maybe the rest just didn’t get seen?
It's possible the coach recommended more players and they didn't get scouted in time. Or scout didn't like something for whatever reason. It's still a very subjective process. And some coaches seem to have more influence than others. Also, although a team might not be as good, the players invited may be playing above age level on a club's older team. It is not an exact science, so some deserving players will get left out, but I believe ultimately they are only looking for a couple of standouts.
Anonymous
09/22/2023 14:01
Subject: USYNT Talent ID Centers
Heard no spectators allowed either. I personally like when clubs don’t allow parents to watch sessions. Understandable if clubs allow parents to be there for U-littles though.
Anonymous
09/22/2023 13:58
Subject: USYNT Talent ID Centers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The link to the calendar of ID clinics on their website is a dud link. Anyone have a good one?
I don't think they publish a lot of information on the ID clinics. It's very hard to predict. I don't think they want the system to be transparent, as they want flexibility.
To answer the OP, my understanding is that the coach needs to recommend players, and a scout needs to come and watch those players, I believe at least twice.
Starts at U14 with a wider net and the pool of players narrows each year. W/r/t Manassas, there were 20 players invited at the U15 level (from NC, VA and MD), and I would assume 30 at U14 based on what was done last year.
So only players who have been scouted before would make it to the ID camp? Our team only got 2 players invited and did significantly better that two other teams in our conference that each got 4-5 players invited. I’m having a hard time believing that our coach only recommended 2 so maybe the rest just didn’t get seen?
It is a 2 hour practice. Not a camp.
Anonymous
09/22/2023 13:56
Subject: USYNT Talent ID Centers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The link to the calendar of ID clinics on their website is a dud link. Anyone have a good one?
I don't think they publish a lot of information on the ID clinics. It's very hard to predict. I don't think they want the system to be transparent, as they want flexibility.
To answer the OP, my understanding is that the coach needs to recommend players, and a scout needs to come and watch those players, I believe at least twice.
Starts at U14 with a wider net and the pool of players narrows each year. W/r/t Manassas, there were 20 players invited at the U15 level (from NC, VA and MD), and I would assume 30 at U14 based on what was done last year.
So only players who have been scouted before would make it to the ID camp? Our team only got 2 players invited and did significantly better that two other teams in our conference that each got 4-5 players invited. I’m having a hard time believing that our coach only recommended 2 so maybe the rest just didn’t get seen?
Anonymous
09/22/2023 11:00
Subject: USYNT Talent ID Centers
Anonymous wrote:You aren’t supposed to share lists.
There are no public lists. Just what some clubs post to their own social media congratulating their players. https://www.instagram.com/nvaecnlsoccer/
Anonymous
09/22/2023 08:10
Subject: USYNT Talent ID Centers
You aren’t supposed to share lists.
Anonymous
09/21/2023 18:56
Subject: USYNT Talent ID Centers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just like ODP. these ID clinics have become less and less important since adademies/MLS Next.
On the girls side, I prefer dd playing on a top team with top coaching rather than getting a charity spot in the ID clinic since USSoccer gives spots to all area teams.
Not necessarily true. There are clubs that don't send any players. It is not really a preference of one thing or the other. A good player can be on a top team and also be invited to an ID clinic. There are many top clubs that send multiple players from a good team.
US Soccer is not like ECNL, which wants to keep all its clubs happy. ECNL will give all-conference honors out to every club. (With better clubs getting more kids.) US Soccer is less beholden to the clubs.
I would look at the lists if I were you.
If you have lists, please share it. From what I've seen on social media, not all teams are represented.
Anonymous
09/21/2023 17:36
Subject: Re:USYNT Talent ID Centers
Where are the lists posted?
Anonymous
09/21/2023 17:06
Subject: USYNT Talent ID Centers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just like ODP. these ID clinics have become less and less important since adademies/MLS Next.
On the girls side, I prefer dd playing on a top team with top coaching rather than getting a charity spot in the ID clinic since USSoccer gives spots to all area teams.
Not necessarily true. There are clubs that don't send any players. It is not really a preference of one thing or the other. A good player can be on a top team and also be invited to an ID clinic. There are many top clubs that send multiple players from a good team.
US Soccer is not like ECNL, which wants to keep all its clubs happy. ECNL will give all-conference honors out to every club. (With better clubs getting more kids.) US Soccer is less beholden to the clubs.
I would look at the lists if I were you.
What girls club in this area doesn’t nominate players?
Anonymous
09/21/2023 17:04
Subject: USYNT Talent ID Centers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just like ODP. these ID clinics have become less and less important since adademies/MLS Next.
On the girls side, I prefer dd playing on a top team with top coaching rather than getting a charity spot in the ID clinic since USSoccer gives spots to all area teams.
Not necessarily true. There are clubs that don't send any players. It is not really a preference of one thing or the other. A good player can be on a top team and also be invited to an ID clinic. There are many top clubs that send multiple players from a good team.
US Soccer is not like ECNL, which wants to keep all its clubs happy. ECNL will give all-conference honors out to every club. (With better clubs getting more kids.) US Soccer is less beholden to the clubs.
I would look at the lists if I were you.
Anonymous
09/21/2023 17:04
Subject: Re:USYNT Talent ID Centers
Anonymous wrote:I'm the OP. Thanks for the answers. I'm mostly interested in understanding the girls side (should have said that). So seems like if they only had 30 players from U14 from all of VA, MD, and DC, then not all clubs are contributing players. (And from what I've seen on social media for U14 and U15 clubs highlighting their girls who got selected, that seems right). Seems somewhat more selective if not all coach recommendations get a spot. That's what I was trying to understand. Thanks!
It's not 30 from all 3 of those areas, it's an even broader area than you describe. Bethesda and the rest of Maryland send their kids north to a different ID session on a different date. Virginia and North Carolina kids go to the one that just happened around here. It appears that the ECNL mid-atlantic region plus FCV go south, ECNL north-atlantic and MD GA go north, so it's 10-12 teams contributing to the player pool.
Anonymous
09/21/2023 15:35
Subject: Re:USYNT Talent ID Centers
I'm the OP. Thanks for the answers. I'm mostly interested in understanding the girls side (should have said that). So seems like if they only had 30 players from U14 from all of VA, MD, and DC, then not all clubs are contributing players. (And from what I've seen on social media for U14 and U15 clubs highlighting their girls who got selected, that seems right). Seems somewhat more selective if not all coach recommendations get a spot. That's what I was trying to understand. Thanks!
Anonymous
09/21/2023 14:45
Subject: USYNT Talent ID Centers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just like ODP. these ID clinics have become less and less important since adademies/MLS Next.
On the girls side, I prefer dd playing on a top team with top coaching rather than getting a charity spot in the ID clinic since USSoccer gives spots to all area teams.
Not necessarily true. There are clubs that don't send any players. It is not really a preference of one thing or the other. A good player can be on a top team and also be invited to an ID clinic. There are many top clubs that send multiple players from a good team.
US Soccer is not like ECNL, which wants to keep all its clubs happy. ECNL will give all-conference honors out to every club. (With better clubs getting more kids.) US Soccer is less beholden to the clubs.
Anonymous
09/21/2023 13:02
Subject: USYNT Talent ID Centers
not for girls. They look at a lot of girls which i think is better than less girls.Anonymous wrote:Just like ODP. these ID clinics have become less and less important since adademies/MLS Next.