Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 12:19     Subject: Top Stats students that had difficult admissions last year
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Somewhat surprisingly, my black daughter with a 4.0 and 35 ACT (one sitting) didn't get into Berkeley OOS for engineering, albeit the ACT score wasn't submitted.


They stopped practising AA years ago.


Shouldn't matter for those stats, right?
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 12:19     Subject: Top Stats students that had difficult admissions last year
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Somewhat surprisingly, my black daughter with a 4.0 and 35 ACT (one sitting) didn't get into Berkeley OOS for engineering, albeit the ACT score wasn't submitted.


They stopped practising AA years ago.

+1 Prop 209
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 12:18     Subject: Top Stats students that had difficult admissions last year
Anonymous wrote:Somewhat surprisingly, my black daughter with a 4.0 and 35 ACT (one sitting) didn't get into Berkeley OOS for engineering, albeit the ACT score wasn't submitted.


They stopped practising AA years ago.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 12:17     Subject: Top Stats students that had difficult admissions last year
Anonymous wrote:Somewhat surprisingly, my black daughter with a 4.0 and 35 ACT (one sitting) didn't get into Berkeley OOS for engineering, albeit the ACT score wasn't submitted.


4.0 weighted GPA is low for top 25 schools.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 12:16     Subject: Re:Top Stats students that had difficult admissions last year
Anonymous wrote:Among by dd’s friends, kids with top stats that were shut out wound up at Georgetown and Boston College. Another with incredible extracurriculars (won the school service award) and great grades shut out everywhere but Maryland.


These are white females.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 12:14     Subject: Top Stats students that had difficult admissions last year
Anonymous wrote:I understand the sentiment behind your question. I can't provide insight into rejections for a high stats kid, but I can give you my impression of the class of 2027 admissions cycle.
A few thoughts:
Test scores are very relevant, even at test optional schools.
Interviews can make a big difference, particularly in demonstrating interest.
Essays are critical and the best place to focus one's energy during senior year. After all, it's impossible to meaningfully raise one's GPA or alter one's ECs in 12th grade, but your student can absolutely write killer essays that tie his/her achievements into benefiting a particular institution. Personalization to each school is key.
Bottom line... top stats, great ECs, demonstrated interest and amazing essays lead to admission success.


"High stats" kids with high scores (i.e. 1500+; 35/36) are still getting rejected at selective colleges. TO applicants to the same colleges are getting accepted. The submit vs TO acceptance ratios notwithstanding, the relevancy of test scores has been diminished at test optional colleges.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 12:14     Subject: Re:Top Stats students that had difficult admissions last year
Anonymous wrote:My Asian female mainly CS kid couldn't broke into T20ish schools.
Ended up at Northeastern and very satisfied.


Do you mean Northwestern?
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 12:13     Subject: Top Stats students that had difficult admissions last year
Somewhat surprisingly, my black daughter with a 4.0 and 35 ACT (one sitting) didn't get into Berkeley OOS for engineering, albeit the ACT score wasn't submitted.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 12:13     Subject: Re:Top Stats students that had difficult admissions last year
Anonymous wrote:Among by dd’s friends, kids with top stats that were shut out wound up at Georgetown and Boston College. Another with incredible extracurriculars (won the school service award) and great grades shut out everywhere but Maryland.


What kind of extracurriculars? Just curious what is incredible these days to colleges. My kid is a junior
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 12:10     Subject: Top Stats students that had difficult admissions last year
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:HS Teacher

My top students with multiple waitlists/rejections were all asian males. They ended up at (good) state schools but by and large were rejected by privates.

raise hand.. that was my CS Asian male. Very high stats. Now at a state flagship with merit.


This country revels in discrimination against Asians.


It's ashamed as all kids should have opportunities and the color of their skin should not matter. Judge them by their personality, their merit, extracurricular and their motivation to contribute to this country.


that's what Harvard is doing, they have a mapping between personality and race.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 12:09     Subject: Re:Top Stats students that had difficult admissions last year
Anonymous wrote:Among by dd’s friends, kids with top stats that were shut out wound up at Georgetown and Boston College. Another with incredible extracurriculars (won the school service award) and great grades shut out everywhere but Maryland.

So much of college admissions to the top colleges appear to be a lottery.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 12:07     Subject: Top Stats students that had difficult admissions last year
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:HS Teacher

My top students with multiple waitlists/rejections were all asian males. They ended up at (good) state schools but by and large were rejected by privates.


I know Asian males who got into Stanford, Harvard, Yale, CMU, Cornell, Northwestern, Duke.
A lot of high stat kids don’t get into top privates. And some do. From all backgrounds. What I noticed is that many kids either were shut out of top privates or had multiple offers.

For CS/engineering?
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 12:05     Subject: Top Stats students that had difficult admissions last year
Anonymous wrote:HS Teacher

My top students with multiple waitlists/rejections were all asian males. They ended up at (good) state schools but by and large were rejected by privates.


Interesting because at our school, boys do much better with Ivies than girls. But at top CS/Engineering programs at state schools like Berkeley, Cornell (I know also an Ivy), Purdue, and Michigan, girls outperform boys in admissions.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 12:03     Subject: Re:Top Stats students that had difficult admissions last year
My white female high stats kid (1580 SATS) didn't get into any privates or even some publics -Michigan, Berkeley. Is in at good and for her field great public with some merit. She'll be happier. Engineering.
Anonymous
Post 09/19/2023 12:00     Subject: Re:Top Stats students that had difficult admissions last year
My Asian female mainly CS kid couldn't broke into T20ish schools.
Ended up at Northeastern and very satisfied.