Anonymous wrote:I do think I recognize this poster as a prolific poster with somewhat controversial opinions and slightly off English. Not clear to me if troll or some sort of AI?

I swear some of these posts are getting really weird.

Anonymous wrote:On a macro level if a women or man hires a nanny so she or he can go to an office job what is point?

Why not just let Nanny do the office job and you watch your own kids?

b/c the office job pays a LOT more and the any is a short term expense that will disappear when kids are in school but the career advancement you gain in these few years is multiples of the cost of the nanny. The OP sounds like my conservative immigrant aunties who thought women only worked as secretaries.. hence "office job" and thinking the nanny and the parents had interchangeable qualifications.

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Anonymous wrote:I earn a hell of a lot more than the nanny we hire. I have formal education that makes me qualified to do my job and the nanny has no formal education beyond HS. The nanny loves spending all day every day with children and I do not.

Are you providing her the same opportunity?

I am talking a macro basis? Let’s say 1 million women have a job in an office and one million women had a nanny. Why not educate Nanny’s to do rewarding high paid work?

Let moms be with own kids at least till eligible for childcare and back up office

Are we trying to set our society back by decades? This is ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:To People who say we outsource services to a doctor, dentists, lawyer, lawn service etc. so why not a nanny?

But difference is I don’t lock my Lawyer in my house full time and pay poverty level wages and treat then like an indentured servant.

It is a profession. They should be treated with respect and paid enough to support their life goals not be your servant. So belittling to say I have an important job so you get to clean my kids vomit and snot as you are not as good as me. They are better than you in many cases.

If Lincoln was alive he would free the Nannies.

WTF.

My nanny is not locked in my house, she makes $60k a year with lots of paid time off, and we treat her with respect and value what she does.

I guarantee she's better paid with more respect in the workplace than your lawn guy or the person who packs up your Amazon packages or the person who makes your clothes.

Lawn work is low pay but it's a pretty chill job. Especially on the riding mower.

Anonymous wrote:This is a stupid troll attempt.

Yeah, this is dumb. I paid my nanny about $35-45K per year. She came up to 35 hrs per week as I worked from home full time. I made anywhere from $250K in the beginning to $425K when she left. Why in the world would I not have the nanny to continue to earn income? The math checks out.

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Anonymous wrote:I earn a hell of a lot more than the nanny we hire. I have formal education that makes me qualified to do my job and the nanny has no formal education beyond HS. The nanny loves spending all day every day with children and I do not.

Are you providing her the same opportunity?

I am talking a macro basis? Let’s say 1 million women have a job in an office and one million women had a nanny. Why not educate Nanny’s to do rewarding high paid work?

Let moms be with own kids at least till eligible for childcare and back up office

Because my nanny doesn't have it in her to have graduated from an ivy league law school. Also, why aren't you bringing up dads here?

My nanny did, but it was in a foreign country in a foreign language, so joke's on her.

Same for my great-grandfather, though!

Anonymous wrote:To People who say we outsource services to a doctor, dentists, lawyer, lawn service etc. so why not a nanny?

But difference is I don’t lock my Lawyer in my house full time and pay poverty level wages and treat then like an indentured servant.

It is a profession. They should be treated with respect and paid enough to support their life goals not be your servant. So belittling to say I have an important job so you get to clean my kids vomit and snot as you are not as good as me. They are better than you in many cases.

If Lincoln was alive he would free the Nannies.

WTF.

My nanny is not locked in my house, she makes $60k a year with lots of paid time off, and we treat her with respect and value what she does.

I guarantee she's better paid with more respect in the workplace than your lawn guy or the person who packs up your Amazon packages or the person who makes your clothes.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I earn a hell of a lot more than the nanny we hire. I have formal education that makes me qualified to do my job and the nanny has no formal education beyond HS. The nanny loves spending all day every day with children and I do not.

Are you providing her the same opportunity?

I am talking a macro basis? Let’s say 1 million women have a job in an office and one million women had a nanny. Why not educate Nanny’s to do rewarding high paid work?

Let moms be with own kids at least till eligible for childcare and back up office

Because my nanny doesn't have it in her to have graduated from an ivy league law school. Also, why aren't you bringing up dads here?

My nanny did, but it was in a foreign country in a foreign language, so joke's on her.

Nanny is a great job for career development in the broader child care industry, including therapy professionals.

Anonymous wrote:To People who say we outsource services to a doctor, dentists, lawyer, lawn service etc. so why not a nanny?

But difference is I don’t lock my Lawyer in my house full time and pay poverty level wages and treat then like an indentured servant.

It is a profession. They should be treated with respect and paid enough to support their life goals not be your servant. So belittling to say I have an important job so you get to clean my kids vomit and snot as you are not as good as me. They are better than you in many cases.

If Lincoln was alive he would free the Nannies.

Lawn service gets poverty wages. Supply and demand. High supply makes for lower wages.

To People who say we outsource services to a doctor, dentists, lawyer, lawn service etc. so why not a nanny?

But difference is I don’t lock my Lawyer in my house full time and pay poverty level wages and treat then like an indentured servant.

It is a profession. They should be treated with respect and paid enough to support their life goals not be your servant. So belittling to say I have an important job so you get to clean my kids vomit and snot as you are not as good as me. They are better than you in many cases.

If Lincoln was alive he would free the Nannies.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I earn a hell of a lot more than the nanny we hire. I have formal education that makes me qualified to do my job and the nanny has no formal education beyond HS. The nanny loves spending all day every day with children and I do not.

Are you providing her the same opportunity?

I am talking a macro basis? Let’s say 1 million women have a job in an office and one million women had a nanny. Why not educate Nanny’s to do rewarding high paid work?

Let moms be with own kids at least till eligible for childcare and back up office

Because my nanny doesn't have it in her to have graduated from an ivy league law school. Also, why aren't you bringing up dads here?

+1

What am I even reading here

It's like an "if we all swapped bodies for a day" movie premise

I do think I recognize this poster as a prolific poster with somewhat controversial opinions and slightly off English. Not clear to me if troll or some sort of AI?

OP nearly all of you are not paying for a real nanny or providing your fake nanny with access to certifications and education to improve their skills.

I as a man did hire a nanny briefly. For three months. Short story wife had major medical issue and unable per our doctor to care for our 4 and 6 year old as on total bed rest with 3rd.

I hired a women around 60 who said she has a car, but it was old so I gave her my wife’s SUV to use if she needed a car. She just drive one kid a few blocks twice a day. She also had a dog and told me she had to run home as can’t afford dog sitting. I let her bring him,

We gave her breakfast and lunch but decided we also give her dinner to go each day.

She did this whole career, her teeth was crooked and yellow, she had high blood pressure but no medical insurance. She worked off the books most jobs, so very little SS said was planning on using ex husbands and no kids of own or retirement savings, she shared a house with roommates at 60.

She raised so many kids yet so mistreated and forgotten.

I gave her four weeks extra pay. I told her she was free to leave anytime during the job as it was only temp.

It is sad. I can’t afford a nanny as I would give medical, dental, vision, 401k, sick days, vacation days, a car, free food and lodging and a living salary. And yes I paid her like 25k for her 3 months. That was 17 years ago and I often wonder if she is still alive. I also only had her work 7am to 3:15 pm. And poor women even was doing babysitting in the evening and weekends. She said I was generous but when this ends she has to keep other work.

I had a nanny for a couple years for my child. I made about 4 times her salary. But, more importantly, I kept my job and the nanny has been gone for a decade. You sound short-sighted and myopic.