Anonymous wrote:There were about 30 kids in my kid's title 1 3rd grade class and 32 in the 4th grade class, with a second teacher. The third grade year was astonishingly good for my kid, that teacher is an AMAZING veteran.

Sadly, it's true, that most days 30 or 32 kids were not there, as absenteeism is Not Good post covid.

The 32 with 2 teachers (assuming real teachers and not aides) is a choice the school is making and is really 2 16 kid classes for staffing ratio purposes, so actually much smaller than most classes in real terms.

But 30 in a T1 with one teacher? Unless there was a staffing issue (i.e., a teacher left/couldn't be replaced/hired), your school is embezzling money. When my school was a T1, we could afford 18 kid classrooms, 7 specials and all sorts of assorted support staff. Maybe maybe that happens if it's a 1 class per grade school? Even then, our school had 15 & 16 kid 3rd grade classes with no pressure to enlarge.

There were about 30 kids in my kid's title 1 3rd grade class and 32 in the 4th grade class, with a second teacher. The third grade year was astonishingly good for my kid, that teacher is an AMAZING veteran.

Sadly, it's true, that most days 30 or 32 kids were not there, as absenteeism is Not Good post covid.

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Anonymous wrote:Very common at JR.

When did JR add K and how does that work with the rest all high schoolers? Concerning, if true.

The K class at JR is full of 16 year olds that are at a K level in math and reading.

If that is true, I call BS on there being only 32 kids in that class.

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Anonymous wrote:Very common at JR.

When did JR add K and how does that work with the rest all high schoolers? Concerning, if true.

The K class at JR is full of 16 year olds that are at a K level in math and reading.

If that is true, I call BS on there being only 32 kids in that class.

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Anonymous wrote:Very common at JR.

When did JR add K and how does that work with the rest all high schoolers? Concerning, if true.

The K class at JR is full of 16 year olds that are at a K level in math and reading.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a DCPS mandated maximum teacher to student ratio? I know there is one for pre-K3 and pre-K4 but does it continue beyond that? My DS is in a kindergarten classroom with over 20 students and just one teacher which seems unreasonable and untenable.

is "over 20" closer to 21 or 29?

29 would be very rare in DCPS. I think you only see classrooms over 25 in some of the overcrowded upper NW schools where they also tend to have more money for aides and higher test scores overall (so people are more willing to accept the crowding because they like other things about the schools).

This is not an accurate statement. Your upper NW schools are not special 🙄 I have taught at a “less desirable” school
where some classes were 28-32 kids..

And just to be clear it is the union that ensures this isn’t the norm. So when teachers ask for support with their new contract, this is the type of thing you want to be paying attention to and pushing for.

You have taught in a DCPS w/ 32 kids in a class? I call BS.

I have taught in DCPS for 19 years. In every ward but 2 and 8. I have 30-32 students in every class right now and have in almost every ward I have taught in.

Sorry, I should have been explicit. Based on the prior thread we were talking about ES and not in UNW. Obviously HS classes are totally different and have nothing to do with K class sizes…

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a DCPS mandated maximum teacher to student ratio? I know there is one for pre-K3 and pre-K4 but does it continue beyond that? My DS is in a kindergarten classroom with over 20 students and just one teacher which seems unreasonable and untenable.

is "over 20" closer to 21 or 29?

29 would be very rare in DCPS. I think you only see classrooms over 25 in some of the overcrowded upper NW schools where they also tend to have more money for aides and higher test scores overall (so people are more willing to accept the crowding because they like other things about the schools).

This is not an accurate statement. Your upper NW schools are not special 🙄 I have taught at a “less desirable” school
where some classes were 28-32 kids..

And just to be clear it is the union that ensures this isn’t the norm. So when teachers ask for support with their new contract, this is the type of thing you want to be paying attention to and pushing for.

You have taught in a DCPS w/ 32 kids in a class? I call BS.

I have taught in DCPS for 19 years. In every ward but 2 and 8. I have 30-32 students in every class right now and have in almost every ward I have taught in.

Senior at Jackson Reed only has one class under 30 this year and one class as 39!

Anonymous wrote:Very common at JR.

When did JR add K and how does that work with the rest all high schoolers? Concerning, if true.

Anonymous wrote:Very common at JR.

Large class size in HS is not the same as in K. I didn't realize this needed to be stated.

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Ok but the OP is asking about kindergarten.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a DCPS mandated maximum teacher to student ratio? I know there is one for pre-K3 and pre-K4 but does it continue beyond that? My DS is in a kindergarten classroom with over 20 students and just one teacher which seems unreasonable and untenable.

is "over 20" closer to 21 or 29?

29 would be very rare in DCPS. I think you only see classrooms over 25 in some of the overcrowded upper NW schools where they also tend to have more money for aides and higher test scores overall (so people are more willing to accept the crowding because they like other things about the schools).

This is not an accurate statement. Your upper NW schools are not special 🙄 I have taught at a “less desirable” school
where some classes were 28-32 kids..

And just to be clear it is the union that ensures this isn’t the norm. So when teachers ask for support with their new contract, this is the type of thing you want to be paying attention to and pushing for.

You have taught in a DCPS w/ 32 kids in a class? I call BS.

Absolutely not BS, don’t know what it is like now but having put 2 kids through DCPS most years were over 26 per class. 29 in K. One year there were 38 with 2 teachers. HS was usually over 30 for core classes.

Very common at JR.

Anonymous wrote:My charter had 2x the number of teachers for that many kids. Weird, cause WTU would have me believe that DCPS schools are magical places with 1-2-1 ratios.

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The WTU is consistently advocating for better T:S ratios

My charter had 2x the number of teachers for that many kids. Weird, cause WTU would have me believe that DCPS schools are magical places with 1-2-1 ratios.