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Anonymous wrote:No and I also find it frustrating. I have 4 kids who I had before my employer, the federal government, offered any paid parental leave. By the last 2 I was out of sick and annual balances so I took unpaid leave for just 8 weeks after a difficult birth because we really couldn’t afford anything more. The men who announce their 12 weeks of paid bonding time make me extremely resentful.

Time to put on your big girl pants and GET OVER IT.

No, the man in my office who just came back from 12 weeks of paid playing golf time while his wife, mother, mother-in-law and infant were at home are extremely frustrating. I know he did some bonding and helping mom, but the 12 weeks for dads when most moms don't get that much is absurd and I am also very resentful I had to cover his work for his extra vacation. All of the older parents in my office look sideways at the dads who take paid parental leave for more than a couple of weeks.

Boo hoo, you don’t like how others are spending their leave. Sounds like the arrangement is working well for him and his family!
You sound obsessed with your coworker tbh. Hope he files an HR complaint on your creepy self.

No I don't like that men get this leave in the first place. Parental leave for men is another example of how we've stopped valuing women in the name of misguided gender equality ideology.

I agree with this since men can game the system and take the leave whenever they want within a certain timeframe after the birth (and it’s like 9 months or something). I know men at my company who took their leave after their wives went back to work and the kid was in daycare.

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Anonymous wrote:No and I also find it frustrating. I have 4 kids who I had before my employer, the federal government, offered any paid parental leave. By the last 2 I was out of sick and annual balances so I took unpaid leave for just 8 weeks after a difficult birth because we really couldn’t afford anything more. The men who announce their 12 weeks of paid bonding time make me extremely resentful.

Time to put on your big girl pants and GET OVER IT.

No, the man in my office who just came back from 12 weeks of paid playing golf time while his wife, mother, mother-in-law and infant were at home are extremely frustrating. I know he did some bonding and helping mom, but the 12 weeks for dads when most moms don't get that much is absurd and I am also very resentful I had to cover his work for his extra vacation. All of the older parents in my office look sideways at the dads who take paid parental leave for more than a couple of weeks.

Boo hoo, you don’t like how others are spending their leave. Sounds like the arrangement is working well for him and his family!
You sound obsessed with your coworker tbh. Hope he files an HR complaint on your creepy self.

No I don't like that men get this leave in the first place. Parental leave for men is another example of how we've stopped valuing women in the name of misguided gender equality ideology.

Yes we should go back to the good old days when a Mom with a c section doesn't have assistance when she or the baby has complications, PPD, and a wide variety of common occurrences beyond family bonding.

In the first weeks of my daughter we had daily visits to the NICU, I had trips to the ER for undiagnosed post partum pre-clampsia, then she came home and had to go to the hospital daily for bilirubin tests. I don't know how people don't understand it isn't just a "abandon Mom" she'll be fine carrying a 30 lb baby in a carrier to medical appointments.

Yes, it's for when you parent or husband is dying a slow and painful death.

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Anonymous wrote:No and I also find it frustrating. I have 4 kids who I had before my employer, the federal government, offered any paid parental leave. By the last 2 I was out of sick and annual balances so I took unpaid leave for just 8 weeks after a difficult birth because we really couldn’t afford anything more. The men who announce their 12 weeks of paid bonding time make me extremely resentful.

Time to put on your big girl pants and GET OVER IT.

No, the man in my office who just came back from 12 weeks of paid playing golf time while his wife, mother, mother-in-law and infant were at home are extremely frustrating. I know he did some bonding and helping mom, but the 12 weeks for dads when most moms don't get that much is absurd and I am also very resentful I had to cover his work for his extra vacation. All of the older parents in my office look sideways at the dads who take paid parental leave for more than a couple of weeks.

Boo hoo, you don’t like how others are spending their leave. Sounds like the arrangement is working well for him and his family!
You sound obsessed with your coworker tbh. Hope he files an HR complaint on your creepy self.

No I don't like that men get this leave in the first place. Parental leave for men is another example of how we've stopped valuing women in the name of misguided gender equality ideology.

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Anonymous wrote:No and I also find it frustrating. I have 4 kids who I had before my employer, the federal government, offered any paid parental leave. By the last 2 I was out of sick and annual balances so I took unpaid leave for just 8 weeks after a difficult birth because we really couldn’t afford anything more. The men who announce their 12 weeks of paid bonding time make me extremely resentful.

Time to put on your big girl pants and GET OVER IT.

No, the man in my office who just came back from 12 weeks of paid playing golf time while his wife, mother, mother-in-law and infant were at home are extremely frustrating. I know he did some bonding and helping mom, but the 12 weeks for dads when most moms don't get that much is absurd and I am also very resentful I had to cover his work for his extra vacation. All of the older parents in my office look sideways at the dads who take paid parental leave for more than a couple of weeks.

Boo hoo, you don’t like how others are spending their leave. Sounds like the arrangement is working well for him and his family!
You sound obsessed with your coworker tbh. Hope he files an HR complaint on your creepy self.

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Anonymous wrote:No and I also find it frustrating. I have 4 kids who I had before my employer, the federal government, offered any paid parental leave. By the last 2 I was out of sick and annual balances so I took unpaid leave for just 8 weeks after a difficult birth because we really couldn’t afford anything more. The men who announce their 12 weeks of paid bonding time make me extremely resentful.

Time to put on your big girl pants and GET OVER IT.

No, the man in my office who just came back from 12 weeks of paid playing golf time while his wife, mother, mother-in-law and infant were at home are extremely frustrating. I know he did some bonding and helping mom, but the 12 weeks for dads when most moms don't get that much is absurd and I am also very resentful I had to cover his work for his extra vacation. All of the older parents in my office look sideways at the dads who take paid parental leave for more than a couple of weeks.

Anonymous wrote:No and I also find it frustrating. I have 4 kids who I had before my employer, the federal government, offered any paid parental leave. By the last 2 I was out of sick and annual balances so I took unpaid leave for just 8 weeks after a difficult birth because we really couldn’t afford anything more. The men who announce their 12 weeks of paid bonding time make me extremely resentful.

Time to put on your big girl pants and GET OVER IT.

Anonymous wrote:No and I also find it frustrating. I have 4 kids who I had before my employer, the federal government, offered any paid parental leave. By the last 2 I was out of sick and annual balances so I took unpaid leave for just 8 weeks after a difficult birth because we really couldn’t afford anything more. The men who announce their 12 weeks of paid bonding time make me extremely resentful.

So you wish your hardship on your coworkers? You must be such a peach to work with.

I also had 3 kids before the federal paid parental leave went into effect and I am soooo happy for my coworkers who get to use it. I don’t wish the logistical and financial gymnastics and hardship on my coworkers.

Anonymous wrote:No and I also find it frustrating. I have 4 kids who I had before my employer, the federal government, offered any paid parental leave. By the last 2 I was out of sick and annual balances so I took unpaid leave for just 8 weeks after a difficult birth because we really couldn’t afford anything more. The men who announce their 12 weeks of paid bonding time make me extremely resentful.

Let it go. Don’t waste your energy on being resentful.

No and I also find it frustrating. I have 4 kids who I had before my employer, the federal government, offered any paid parental leave. By the last 2 I was out of sick and annual balances so I took unpaid leave for just 8 weeks after a difficult birth because we really couldn’t afford anything more. The men who announce their 12 weeks of paid bonding time make me extremely resentful.

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Anonymous wrote:I am newly entering back into the workforce after working for myself for 15+ years, and considering a position that allows 14 weeks fully paid time off for all new parents (bio, adopt, or foster). And I know this sounds petty, so am glad it is anonymous. But: for those past their childbearing years, for those who may choose to remain childless, or for those who already have children, is there any equivalent compensation?

You could birth, adopt, or foster a child, and then you too could get this benefit.

This. If it's such a great benefit, foster a kid and go get it.

Oh but wait, that would be a lot of work and expense to raise a kid so it's not worth it, right?

Anonymous wrote:I am newly entering back into the workforce after working for myself for 15+ years, and considering a position that allows 14 weeks fully paid time off for all new parents (bio, adopt, or foster). And I know this sounds petty, so am glad it is anonymous. But: for those past their childbearing years, for those who may choose to remain childless, or for those who already have children, is there any equivalent compensation?

This is a great question to ask on your first day at work. Let them know where your priorities lie right up front, I'm sure they would appreciate knowing.

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Anonymous wrote:I am newly entering back into the workforce after working for myself for 15+ years, and considering a position that allows 14 weeks fully paid time off for all new parents (bio, adopt, or foster). And I know this sounds petty, so am glad it is anonymous. But: for those past their childbearing years, for those who may choose to remain childless, or for those who already have children, is there any equivalent compensation?

If this the kind of question you have when returning to the workforce, just continue to work for yourself. It will be unpleasant to work with you and you will just be miserable about everything.

correct. you've been working for yourself too long and you will be unhappy.

You're used to being the boss and getting all of the rewards of your labor. First it is paid parental leave, next you're going to be complaining about some other benefit, like the health insurance which covers IVF but you won't use those services, or paid public transit when you drive or walk to work. Also, you're going to be unhappy with the comp /bonus plan because you will do the math and realize that, whatever they pay you and whatever the bonus plan is, the employer is making a profit from your labor.

Anonymous wrote:I am newly entering back into the workforce after working for myself for 15+ years, and considering a position that allows 14 weeks fully paid time off for all new parents (bio, adopt, or foster). And I know this sounds petty, so am glad it is anonymous. But: for those past their childbearing years, for those who may choose to remain childless, or for those who already have children, is there any equivalent compensation?

If this the kind of question you have when returning to the workforce, just continue to work for yourself. It will be unpleasant to work with you and you will just be miserable about everything.

I have terrible news for you about employer paid benefits. If your colleague gets cancer and needs millions of dollars in treatment, and you don’t, you don’t get “some equivalent” of millions of dollars either.

What you get is the benefits you’re eligible for.