Anonymous wrote:Other jobs had vaccine requirements as well as colleges and summer camps.

Good.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not vaccinated and still never had covid (no masking, travel a lot, flying to Europe again next week, numerous trips to Asia and Middle East). I can calculate the risk for myself. I don't care what others do, they can wrap themselves in hazmat suits for the next decade. Injuries are real, as well as Covid. But everyone asses their own risk and take their own responsibility to protect themselves. If it means for you to get 8 boosters and wear the mask, go for it (I invested in vaccine manufactures and in companies producing heart medicines, so I am not anivaxer, I do hope more people get vaccinated). But I would never do that shot for myself or my family.

Non-responsive.

You don't know that you never had covid. You may have had symptom-free covid, but still communicated it to others.

Or tested too early without an appropriately timed follow up test.

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Anonymous wrote:There isn’t a good reason because they’re being irrational. Can’t reason with crazy.

Literally, lots of good reasons have already been given.

But besides that, the question/premise is false.

Nobody has actually answered OP’s question.

Anonymous wrote:Also, I work for a large company that has nothing to do with healthcare. They were mandating the vax on all new hires. ABSOLUTELY INSANE.

Good to see your company show leadership by providing a safe workplace and weeding out idiots in the hiring process.

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Anonymous wrote:I think if the vax was not mandated there would be less of the issue. The mandates were a big issue.

There was no vaccine police going around forcing people to be vaccinated. Certainly for occupations that served vulnerable populations like nurses and firefighters vaccine mandates were justifiable. They don't have a "right" to work these jobs unvaccinated.

Other jobs had vaccine requirements as well as colleges and summer camps.

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Anonymous wrote:I think if the vax was not mandated there would be less of the issue. The mandates were a big issue.

There was no vaccine police going around forcing people to be vaccinated. Certainly for occupations that served vulnerable populations like nurses and firefighters vaccine mandates were justifiable. They don't have a "right" to work these jobs unvaccinated.

They absolutely DO have a right to work. It doesn't prevent transmission! There was no need for these mandates.

Also, I work for a large company that has nothing to do with healthcare. They were mandating the vax on all new hires. ABSOLUTELY INSANE.

Anonymous wrote:I think if the vax was not mandated there would be less of the issue. The mandates were a big issue.

There was no vaccine police going around forcing people to be vaccinated. Certainly for occupations that served vulnerable populations like nurses and firefighters vaccine mandates were justifiable. They don't have a "right" to work these jobs unvaccinated.

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Anonymous wrote:For the naysayers on this thread - in 2019, there was no vaccine or treatment for the common cold. Now, we have both. Modern medicine is amazing. And you sound a little bit like an ostrich in your refusal. And a lot like a dinosaur.

Oh my gosh! There’s a vaccine for the common cold? Please link, thanks!

I guess the PP is referring to the RSV vaccine.

I think if the vax was not mandated there would be less of the issue. The mandates were a big issue.

Anonymous wrote:There isn’t a good reason because they’re being irrational. Can’t reason with crazy.

Literally, lots of good reasons have already been given.

But besides that, the question/premise is false.

There isn’t a good reason because they’re being irrational. Can’t reason with crazy.

Covid is now NBD for “most” healthy people. A lot of people died from it. It was scary in the beginning. The first versions were more dangerous than the current versions. The statistics show that the overwhelming majority of people who died were elderly with health conditions. Most of those who died at younger ages also had health conditions. If you fall in a high risk category, you should care about Covid. The problem with the risk of rare side effects from the vaccine is that they are not as predictable as assessing for the risk of complications from Covid. There are a lot of healthy kids and adults who don’t feel the need to risk a rare side effect, particularly now, given that the overwhelming majority of the population has already had Covid and the virus is now very mild.

I have had 3 shots, one bout of Covid, and see no need for additional shots. I’m very aware of how many people died from Covid. The risks are now too low for me to care about further vaccines but that could change in the future with new evidence.

Anonymous wrote:For the naysayers on this thread - in 2019, there was no vaccine or treatment for the common cold. Now, we have both. Modern medicine is amazing. And you sound a little bit like an ostrich in your refusal. And a lot like a dinosaur.

Oh my gosh! There’s a vaccine for the common cold? Please link, thanks!

I am pro-vaccine in general and understand the devastation Covid has wreaked. My 85-year-old mother is permanently disabled from Covid (in 2020, before vaccines were available). However, the vaccine will not stop me from getting Covid, nor will it stop me from spreading it. I have had Covid and recovered, so I have immunity. I will get Covid in the future many times again and the vaccine cannot prevent that.

I do encourage my mother to get every booster available, however.

I am grateful that the vaccine exists because I understand that it has saved many lives.

Anonymous wrote:For the naysayers on this thread - in 2019, there was no vaccine or treatment for the common cold. Now, we have both. Modern medicine is amazing. And you sound a little bit like an ostrich in your refusal. And a lot like a dinosaur.

Anyone who refused the updated Covid boosters are dinosaurs? Uptake on these 'new boosters' is very very low. I guess there are a lot of dinosaurs out there!