Anonymous
Post 09/01/2023 19:47     Subject: Berkeley and Stanford to ACC, does this hurt UVA and Duke?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stanford
Duke
UC-Berkeley
UVA
UNC
Georgia Tech
Notre Dame

Not a bad group of schools


Notes Dame is not in the ACC
Wake Forest is


Rank in SAT scores

Stanford
Cal
Duke
Notre Dame
Wake
BC
Georgia Tech
Uva
Unc
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2023 19:44     Subject: Berkeley and Stanford to ACC, does this hurt UVA and Duke?
If this hurt UVA and Duke, I think they would have voted against it. I think they probably think this helps because any conference that is not growing is dying and they don't want the upheaval and risk of changing conferences.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2023 19:43     Subject: Re:Berkeley and Stanford to ACC, does this hurt UVA and Duke?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seems like they should just let football create some super-conferences...and the remaining sports just compete within a conference that makes geographic and historical sense.


This! They should allow football to join these quasi-NFL leagues and let the other sports continue to play in their regional conferences. Sort of like how ND is independent in football but oddly with the ACC for all other sports--- makes sense for ND to be in the B1G obviously.

With adding Stanford and Cal next year, the ACC will be right after the Ivy League when it comes to the academic prowess of their schools. The B1G will be a distant third.


"Right after" the Ivy League is misleading. The ACC will run the gamut. The Ivy League does not run the gamut.


The B1G is coherent and made up of huge research dollar, large alumni base and flagship institutions.

The Ivy is all private northeast elite universities

The ACC is an incoherent, unrelated, geographically nonsensical, unvaluable media, grab bag of leftovers.


B1G is completely incoherent as a college athletics association. It is a coast-to-coast football minor league.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2023 19:41     Subject: Berkeley and Stanford to ACC, does this hurt UVA and Duke?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Stanford
Duke
UC-Berkeley
UVA
UNC
Georgia Tech
Notre Dame

Not a bad group of schools


Notes Dame is not in the ACC
Wake Forest is


As is Boston College, Syracuse, Louisville, NC State, Virginia Tech, Clemson, Florida State, and Miami of Florida.

Anonymous
Post 09/01/2023 18:49     Subject: Berkeley and Stanford to ACC, does this hurt UVA and Duke?
Anonymous wrote:Stanford
Duke
UC-Berkeley
UVA
UNC
Georgia Tech
Notre Dame

Not a bad group of schools


Notes Dame is not in the ACC
Wake Forest is
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2023 18:44     Subject: Re:Berkeley and Stanford to ACC, does this hurt UVA and Duke?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seems like they should just let football create some super-conferences...and the remaining sports just compete within a conference that makes geographic and historical sense.


This! They should allow football to join these quasi-NFL leagues and let the other sports continue to play in their regional conferences. Sort of like how ND is independent in football but oddly with the ACC for all other sports--- makes sense for ND to be in the B1G obviously.

With adding Stanford and Cal next year, the ACC will be right after the Ivy League when it comes to the academic prowess of their schools. The B1G will be a distant third.


"Right after" the Ivy League is misleading. The ACC will run the gamut. The Ivy League does not run the gamut.


The B1G is coherent and made up of huge research dollar, large alumni base and flagship institutions.

The Ivy is all private northeast elite universities

The ACC is an incoherent, unrelated, geographically nonsensical, unvaluable media, grab bag of leftovers.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2023 18:39     Subject: Berkeley and Stanford to ACC, does this hurt UVA and Duke?
Stanford
Duke
UC-Berkeley
UVA
UNC
Georgia Tech
Notre Dame

Not a bad group of schools
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2023 18:21     Subject: Re:Berkeley and Stanford to ACC, does this hurt UVA and Duke?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seems like they should just let football create some super-conferences...and the remaining sports just compete within a conference that makes geographic and historical sense.


This! They should allow football to join these quasi-NFL leagues and let the other sports continue to play in their regional conferences. Sort of like how ND is independent in football but oddly with the ACC for all other sports--- makes sense for ND to be in the B1G obviously.

With adding Stanford and Cal next year, the ACC will be right after the Ivy League when it comes to the academic prowess of their schools. The B1G will be a distant third.


"Right after" the Ivy League is misleading. The ACC will run the gamut. The Ivy League does not run the gamut.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2023 18:02     Subject: Berkeley and Stanford to ACC, does this hurt UVA and Duke?
Anonymous wrote:Has no effect on basketball recruiting (Duke is in a class by itself, obviously; UVa has a brilliant coach and consistently wins 20+ games). Interested to know how other sports are affected . . .


You mean Duke use to be in a class by themselves when they had Coach K, finished 4th in the ACC last year.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2023 17:55     Subject: Berkeley and Stanford to ACC, does this hurt UVA and Duke?
Anonymous wrote:Now that these two schools are joining the ACC, how will this affect recruiting for UVA and Duke? If I were a top academic recruit living in NC, going to the west coast might be more appealing now that I will be able to play games against the local schools. Just wondering what others think....


https://theacc.com/


Zero impact. Conferences only matter in football(SEC). ACC does not have one basketball team in the top 10. Duke and UVA are not top 10 basketball or football programs. Top recruits are not going to any of these schools.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2023 17:40     Subject: Berkeley and Stanford to ACC, does this hurt UVA and Duke?
Anonymous wrote:They are changing conf name to APCC


It maybe time to change all the conferences names.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2023 17:16     Subject: Re:Berkeley and Stanford to ACC, does this hurt UVA and Duke?
Anonymous wrote:Seems like they should just let football create some super-conferences...and the remaining sports just compete within a conference that makes geographic and historical sense.


This! They should allow football to join these quasi-NFL leagues and let the other sports continue to play in their regional conferences. Sort of like how ND is independent in football but oddly with the ACC for all other sports--- makes sense for ND to be in the B1G obviously.

With adding Stanford and Cal next year, the ACC will be right after the Ivy League when it comes to the academic prowess of their schools. The B1G will be a distant third.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2023 16:30     Subject: Berkeley and Stanford to ACC, does this hurt UVA and Duke?
Notre Dame pushed this more than anyone, which is awesome because they’re not even an ACC member for football. ND’s athletic director is very effective - and he’s a Stanford law grad. Stanford owes him big time.

I don’t think it’s going to impact recruiting at all.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2023 16:24     Subject: Re:Berkeley and Stanford to ACC, does this hurt UVA and Duke?
Anonymous wrote:UVA now has the median acceptance rate of the ACC schools.


Wrong. That would be Wake Forest
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2023 16:22     Subject: Re:Berkeley and Stanford to ACC, does this hurt UVA and Duke?
UVA now has the median acceptance rate of the ACC schools.