Greg Hood, Amy Holleb, Tangy Millard, Martin Grimm, Darwin Barker are examples of other principals who have left FCPS within the last 12 months for LCPS or PWCS. Loudoun, Prince William, and DCPS are all neighbors that pay their administrators significantly more. There is no personal financial incentive to work for FCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:Government pensions are simply a problem. Unaffordable and foisting the burden on future generations. I'm not picking on teachers here, pretty much any government pension.

Most companies got rid of pensions because they are not affordable in the long term.

Obviously in this area this will not be a popular opinion, but that doesn't mean I am wrong.

Correct, it is not a popular opinion.
So organizations no longer have to pay long term benefits to people who put in the time and built up the organization. But they also don't have to pay more now so that people can invest and prepare? It's not like schools are paying 20% more now so that the employees can invest for retirement. Well, that's a bargain which screws over workers.

I don't want to hijack this thread to make it about pensions (though in this case that may have contributed to the principals departure), but the fair thing would be to pay the teachers somewhat more now in exchange for that forever pension. Like industry with a 401k or non-profit 403b. It is the pension promises and payments for 30-40 years of retirement likely with inflation adjustments that are the problem. It just doesn't work fiscally.

Anonymous wrote:Government pensions are simply a problem. Unaffordable and foisting the burden on future generations. I'm not picking on teachers here, pretty much any government pension.

Most companies got rid of pensions because they are not affordable in the long term.

Obviously in this area this will not be a popular opinion, but that doesn't mean I am wrong.

Correct, it is not a popular opinion.
So organizations no longer have to pay long term benefits to people who put in the time and built up the organization. But they also don't have to pay more now so that people can invest and prepare? It's not like schools are paying 20% more now so that the employees can invest for retirement. Well, that's a bargain which screws over workers.

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Anonymous wrote:Is she really going to a different county?

Yes- to work in a central office position. She didn’t retire in June because she didnt have the job yet. This follows a pattern of admin retirements the past few weeks. The admin pool is getting shallow.

Which other administrators have “retired”?

Anonymous wrote:Government pensions are simply a problem. Unaffordable and foisting the burden on future generations. I'm not picking on teachers here, pretty much any government pension.

Most companies got rid of pensions because they are not affordable in the long term.

Obviously in this area this will not be a popular opinion, but that doesn't mean I am wrong.

Virginia newer hires don’t have a true pension anymore and FCPS changed their plan to require people to be older when they retire. This is an issue for the next few years until the Legacy plan people retire.

Anonymous wrote:Is she really going to a different county?

Yes- to work in a central office position. She didn’t retire in June because she didnt have the job yet. This follows a pattern of admin retirements the past few weeks. The admin pool is getting shallow.

Government pensions are simply a problem. Unaffordable and foisting the burden on future generations. I'm not picking on teachers here, pretty much any government pension.

Most companies got rid of pensions because they are not affordable in the long term.

Obviously in this area this will not be a popular opinion, but that doesn't mean I am wrong.

Anonymous wrote:FCPS to PWCS/LCPS brain drain continues. School board is adding a measly extra step to admin scales with the absurd thinking that this will quell things. It won’t. Pay and vacation benefits in FCPS still lagging to a big degree.

Pay top dollar or lose the talent!!

I think the retirement boondoggle is a bigger factor.

Is she really going to a different county?

Anonymous wrote:WHY didn't she retire bakc in June?

Given many people claim FCPS pay is bad… The answer probably lies in the new salary is. We’ll have to wait to see the salary.

My guess is the salary is going from 180k to 250-300k.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/FY24-school-based-administrator.pdf

FCPS to PWCS/LCPS brain drain continues. School board is adding a measly extra step to admin scales with the absurd thinking that this will quell things. It won’t. Pay and vacation benefits in FCPS still lagging to a big degree.

Pay top dollar or lose the talent!!

WHY didn't she retire bakc in June?

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Anonymous wrote:This is weird. I say something is up. While eligible for retirement, if it was planned, they would have announced in the spring, had the search, and have the new principal ready to slide into the new spot.

Maybe he's tired of all the FCPS BS....it's possible he got a job elsewhere making better money and not dealing with the craziness that is school.

SHE is going to another county where she will make more.

Seriously?

Makes you wonder about the clowns on the School Board who voted themselves 50% raises but can’t find a way to retain staff.

Vote them ALL out.

Seriously. FCPS employees who started in FCPS pre-2000s can receive full retirement from FCPS when they have 25 years of service. To get full retirement from the state, they have to have 30 years of service. That 30 years is based on their highest 3 years of salary. Many FCPS admin are leaving at 25-27 years of service to get their full FCPS retirement and maximize their state retirement. Dr. Floyd is going to a job in a neighboring county.
The retirement benefits changed in 2001, so in a few years this won’t happen as those employees have to do 30 years to get full retirement from FCPS.
The teachers newer to FCPS (circa maybe 2015?) have a crappy plan where they will retire at an older age and this will be a non-issue.

She really is considered a talented educator, and my guess is that she has some opportunity elsewhere that’s too good to pass up. It’s a strong school. She’s leaving it in good shape.

My kids aren't even at Woodson anymore but I'm sad she's leaving. She was a great principal.