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Anonymous wrote:If any embryo is destroyed, then yes.

So unneeded embryos should just be frozen and stored...forever? Who bears that cost?

That is tantamount to destroying them via neglect.

It depends on what you mean by prolife. I agree with the guidelines in RvW that abortion shouldn't occur after viability except in edge cases. That's a prolife position these days, but a few short years ago it was pro choice.

They usually are hypocrites OP.

All friends who have had abortions have been "pro life" and they scurry away from social media when the issue comes up. They know who they are.

Anonymous wrote:OP, is your question about someone in particular, because I personally don't know anyone who is pro life and pro embryo destruction?

OP here. Yes. Politically conservative, active in the extremely conservative NA Anglican Church, March 4 Life, voted for Trump “for the Supreme Court” and all kids conceived via IVF. And not the “natural cycle” one.

They do not a give a f#ck if they are hypocrites. They are power hungry savages & busy bodies who like forcing themselves into others’ lives. And, of course, the rules don’t apply to them.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If any embryo is destroyed, then yes.

So unneeded embryos should just be frozen and stored...forever? Who bears that cost?

From the POV of the hypothetical person who is against IVF, they should not have ben created, obviously.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how anyone who believes in god can also believe in medicine. Isn't getting sick or being infertile a part of god's plan?

Why not? God gave us free will and brains to figure out survival, plus a moral compass to use free will for good

God gave us these things? Really? Prove it.

I'm responding to a question that presupposed the hypothetical person we are discussing believes in God (which is a belief, by the way, so to ask for proof is juvenile).

NP with IVF experience here. Standard IVF processes may or may not result in multiple embryos. Some women struggle to produce more than a few eggs, even on atoms, and are lucky to get even one embryo from a cycle. However, there is an option called natural cycle IVF that does not require stimulation of the ovaries, therefore resulting in retrieval of only one or maybe two eggs at a time. Of course, this method may be very time consuming, but the goal is to only end up with one or two embryos that are then transferred, instead of the potential for multiple embryos from one cycle needing to be frozen or destroyed.
I was part of an infertility support group, and we had one lady who was very conservative. This was her approach to IVF, as she and her husband were both against destroying or creating more than they would transfer per cycle. There used to be a clinic or two here in the DC area who would do it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how anyone who believes in god can also believe in medicine. Isn't getting sick or being infertile a part of god's plan?

Why not? God gave us free will and brains to figure out survival, plus a moral compass to use free will for good

God gave us these things? Really? Prove it.

Anonymous wrote:If any embryo is destroyed, then yes.

So unneeded embryos should just be frozen and stored...forever? Who bears that cost?

OP, is your question about someone in particular, because I personally don't know anyone who is pro life and pro embryo destruction?

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand how anyone who believes in god can also believe in medicine. Isn't getting sick or being infertile a part of god's plan?

Why not? God gave us free will and brains to figure out survival, plus a moral compass to use free will for good

Anonymous wrote:If any embryo is destroyed, then yes.

When they get to the number of kids they want, it's not like they freecycle the other embryos.

Yes, IMO.

FWIW most of the pro-lifer types I know (my super conservative ILs- whole giant family of them) are also opposed to fertility treatments. We did not tell them we used IVF x2 lol.

If any embryo is destroyed, then yes.