Anonymous
08/28/2023 16:02
Subject: Re:Can we please stop with the JKLM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:3 out of 4 of the schools in JKLM are still the best in terms of PARCC scores. Key and Janney are in top 5 for both ELA and Math. Ross is too, even though it's not JKLM, so maybe we should change it to JKLR
OP, what makes you think they are not sought after?
Average ELA Score by School (Top 60 Schools)
School Without Walls High School 94.07
Benjamin Banneker High School 88.62
Janney Elementary School 88.19
Ross Elementary School 86.66
Key Elementary School 80.25
Average Math Score by School (Top 60)
Stoddert Elementary School 83.05
Janney Elementary School 81.57
Lafayette Elementary School 81.36
Ross Elementary School 78.33
Key Elementary School 73.88
With exception of magnet high schools at the top, the top scores are simply the richest and whitest schools. When you really break it down at most of the schools, they actually underperform compared to other non-JKLMs. Hint, check out the black student performance at Lafayette.
To add…
Empower makes it very easy to drill it down. When looking at top performance for just White students, the rankings are as follows:
Math:
Payne 92%
Hyde Addison 90%
Maury
Banneker
Tyler
Stoddert
Murch
Eliot Hine
SWW
Van Ness
Brent
Key
Janney
Deal
Bancroft
Jefferson
Sojourner Truth
DC Bilingual
Watkins
Capital City
Oyster Adams
Inspired Teaching
Marie Reed
Shepherd
LT
Eaton
Sela
Stokes
Mundo Verde 8th 75%
ELA
Walls 98%
Latin 95%
Deal
Ross
Payne
Maury
Janney
DC Bilingual
Bancroft
Key
LT
Oyster
Duke Ellington
Lafayette
Hardy
SH
Eaton
Two Rivers
McKinley
Latin Cooper
Stoddert
Jefferson
Walls
Basis
Hyde Addison
Eastern
Latin Middle
Lee
Hearst
Murch 78%
JR
CHM
DCI
ITS
MV
Tyler 75%
Mann 69%
So again…and I’ve said this for years now, there is no “JKLM” those are just the schools that don’t have black and brown at risk kids that muddy their overall scores so their average 79-80% scores look really good overall but when you compare them citywide they are average at best.
Gee, that makes sense—just filter out non-white kids.
What are you saying about skin color? Are you that clueless?
And do you realize that there are only a handful of white kids at many of these schools?
Also, I’m a Black parent of a Black student. Stop trying to insinuate anything. I’m clearly referring to the bias that is pervasive in DCUM when those continue with this “JKLM” mess.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 16:00
Subject: Re:Can we please stop with the JKLM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:3 out of 4 of the schools in JKLM are still the best in terms of PARCC scores. Key and Janney are in top 5 for both ELA and Math. Ross is too, even though it's not JKLM, so maybe we should change it to JKLR
OP, what makes you think they are not sought after?
Average ELA Score by School (Top 60 Schools)
School Without Walls High School 94.07
Benjamin Banneker High School 88.62
Janney Elementary School 88.19
Ross Elementary School 86.66
Key Elementary School 80.25
Average Math Score by School (Top 60)
Stoddert Elementary School 83.05
Janney Elementary School 81.57
Lafayette Elementary School 81.36
Ross Elementary School 78.33
Key Elementary School 73.88
With exception of magnet high schools at the top, the top scores are simply the richest and whitest schools. When you really break it down at most of the schools, they actually underperform compared to other non-JKLMs. Hint, check out the black student performance at Lafayette.
To add…
Empower makes it very easy to drill it down. When looking at top performance for just White students, the rankings are as follows:
Math:
Payne 92%
Hyde Addison 90%
Maury
Banneker
Tyler
Stoddert
Murch
Eliot Hine
SWW
Van Ness
Brent
Key
Janney
Deal
Bancroft
Jefferson
Sojourner Truth
DC Bilingual
Watkins
Capital City
Oyster Adams
Inspired Teaching
Marie Reed
Shepherd
LT
Eaton
Sela
Stokes
Mundo Verde 8th 75%
ELA
Walls 98%
Latin 95%
Deal
Ross
Payne
Maury
Janney
DC Bilingual
Bancroft
Key
LT
Oyster
Duke Ellington
Lafayette
Hardy
SH
Eaton
Two Rivers
McKinley
Latin Cooper
Stoddert
Jefferson
Walls
Basis
Hyde Addison
Eastern
Latin Middle
Lee
Hearst
Murch 78%
JR
CHM
DCI
ITS
MV
Tyler 75%
Mann 69%
So again…and I’ve said this for years now, there is no “JKLM” those are just the schools that don’t have black and brown at risk kids that muddy their overall scores so their average 79-80% scores look really good overall but when you compare them citywide they are average at best.
Gee, that makes sense—just filter out non-white kids.
What are you saying about skin color? Are you that clueless?
And do you realize that there are only a handful of white kids at many of these schools?
You’re not getting it. The point is that rich white students tend to perform well on standardized tests. Thus, when you get a school like Lafayette full of rich quote students of course it’s going to “seem” like a top school based on raw numbers. However, when you compare the white kids at Janney/Lafayette and the white kids a XYZ school in ward 6 and then you compare the black student performance at each school, you will quickly see that Lafayette (or input your favorite JKLM) is not the best school in the city. In fact, it’s not even to 10 when you compare apples to apples.
So I agree with OP, let’s stop saying JKLM because it doesn’t mean anything.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 15:46
Subject: Re:Can we please stop with the JKLM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:3 out of 4 of the schools in JKLM are still the best in terms of PARCC scores. Key and Janney are in top 5 for both ELA and Math. Ross is too, even though it's not JKLM, so maybe we should change it to JKLR
OP, what makes you think they are not sought after?
Average ELA Score by School (Top 60 Schools)
School Without Walls High School 94.07
Benjamin Banneker High School 88.62
Janney Elementary School 88.19
Ross Elementary School 86.66
Key Elementary School 80.25
Average Math Score by School (Top 60)
Stoddert Elementary School 83.05
Janney Elementary School 81.57
Lafayette Elementary School 81.36
Ross Elementary School 78.33
Key Elementary School 73.88
With exception of magnet high schools at the top, the top scores are simply the richest and whitest schools. When you really break it down at most of the schools, they actually underperform compared to other non-JKLMs. Hint, check out the black student performance at Lafayette.
To add…
Empower makes it very easy to drill it down. When looking at top performance for just White students, the rankings are as follows:
Math:
Payne 92%
Hyde Addison 90%
Maury
Banneker
Tyler
Stoddert
Murch
Eliot Hine
SWW
Van Ness
Brent
Key
Janney
Deal
Bancroft
Jefferson
Sojourner Truth
DC Bilingual
Watkins
Capital City
Oyster Adams
Inspired Teaching
Marie Reed
Shepherd
LT
Eaton
Sela
Stokes
Mundo Verde 8th 75%
ELA
Walls 98%
Latin 95%
Deal
Ross
Payne
Maury
Janney
DC Bilingual
Bancroft
Key
LT
Oyster
Duke Ellington
Lafayette
Hardy
SH
Eaton
Two Rivers
McKinley
Latin Cooper
Stoddert
Jefferson
Walls
Basis
Hyde Addison
Eastern
Latin Middle
Lee
Hearst
Murch 78%
JR
CHM
DCI
ITS
MV
Tyler 75%
Mann 69%
So again…and I’ve said this for years now, there is no “JKLM” those are just the schools that don’t have black and brown at risk kids that muddy their overall scores so their average 79-80% scores look really good overall but when you compare them citywide they are average at best.
Gee, that makes sense—just filter out non-white kids.
What are you saying about skin color? Are you that clueless?
And do you realize that there are only a handful of white kids at many of these schools?
Anonymous
08/28/2023 15:46
Subject: Can we please stop with the JKLM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’ve only seen this abbreviation once or twice before. What’s it mean??
Janney, Key, Lafayette, Murch (or Mann? not sure).
Thank you.
I’m new to dcps and it also took me forever to figure out what “HRCS” means, though it seems like it has morphed a lot from the original post.
Do you maybe mean HPCS? If so, I think that means High Performing Charter School.
No it's HRCS - highly regarded charter school
Anonymous
08/28/2023 15:28
Subject: Can we please stop with the JKLM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’ve only seen this abbreviation once or twice before. What’s it mean??
Janney, Key, Lafayette, Murch (or Mann? not sure).
Thank you.
I’m new to dcps and it also took me forever to figure out what “HRCS” means, though it seems like it has morphed a lot from the original post.
Do you maybe mean HPCS? If so, I think that means High Performing Charter School.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 15:05
Subject: Re:Can we please stop with the JKLM
Thus people should go back to saying things like “WOTP” when they are referring to safe rich white schools, but stop putting them in this high regard state because they’re not doing anything special above Payne, Brent, or even Inspired Teaching.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 15:03
Subject: Re:Can we please stop with the JKLM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:3 out of 4 of the schools in JKLM are still the best in terms of PARCC scores. Key and Janney are in top 5 for both ELA and Math. Ross is too, even though it's not JKLM, so maybe we should change it to JKLR
OP, what makes you think they are not sought after?
Average ELA Score by School (Top 60 Schools)
School Without Walls High School 94.07
Benjamin Banneker High School 88.62
Janney Elementary School 88.19
Ross Elementary School 86.66
Key Elementary School 80.25
Average Math Score by School (Top 60)
Stoddert Elementary School 83.05
Janney Elementary School 81.57
Lafayette Elementary School 81.36
Ross Elementary School 78.33
Key Elementary School 73.88
With exception of magnet high schools at the top, the top scores are simply the richest and whitest schools. When you really break it down at most of the schools, they actually underperform compared to other non-JKLMs. Hint, check out the black student performance at Lafayette.
To add…
Empower makes it very easy to drill it down. When looking at top performance for just White students, the rankings are as follows:
Math:
Payne 92%
Hyde Addison 90%
Maury
Banneker
Tyler
Stoddert
Murch
Eliot Hine
SWW
Van Ness
Brent
Key
Janney
Deal
Bancroft
Jefferson
Sojourner Truth
DC Bilingual
Watkins
Capital City
Oyster Adams
Inspired Teaching
Marie Reed
Shepherd
LT
Eaton
Sela
Stokes
Mundo Verde 8th 75%
ELA
Walls 98%
Latin 95%
Deal
Ross
Payne
Maury
Janney
DC Bilingual
Bancroft
Key
LT
Oyster
Duke Ellington
Lafayette
Hardy
SH
Eaton
Two Rivers
McKinley
Latin Cooper
Stoddert
Jefferson
Walls
Basis
Hyde Addison
Eastern
Latin Middle
Lee
Hearst
Murch 78%
JR
CHM
DCI
ITS
MV
Tyler 75%
Mann 69%
So again…and I’ve said this for years now, there is no “JKLM” those are just the schools that don’t have black and brown at risk kids that muddy their overall scores so their average 79-80% scores look really good overall but when you compare them citywide they are average at best.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 14:39
Subject: Can we please stop with the JKLM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are not the best or most sought after schools. There are plenty of other excellent schools, which in some instances rate higher, than those schools - look at the most recent PARCC scores. I don't understand this forum's obsession.
I suspect the forum's obsession with JKLM schools is related to where people who post on here live.
It is shorthand for west of the park Deal feeder elementary schools, minus Hearst (not sure why, maybe it didn't always feed Deal or some other no longer applicable reason?)
Key and Mann feed to Hardy.
I think JKLM (Janney, Key, Lafayette, Mann) dates back to the days before charter schools had really taken hold, when the NW elementaries had the reputation of being basically the only game in town. Now, we have HRCSs. And plenty of other elementaries that DCUM would not have considered a decade ago. This is why you hear "JKLM" so rarely anymore here that people don't know what it stands for.
The HR doesn’t fit anymore so you don’t hear HRCS as much either.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 14:38
Subject: Can we please stop with the JKLM
JRKL is now the acronym folks.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 14:36
Subject: Re:Can we please stop with the JKLM
Anonymous wrote:3 out of 4 of the schools in JKLM are still the best in terms of PARCC scores. Key and Janney are in top 5 for both ELA and Math. Ross is too, even though it's not JKLM, so maybe we should change it to JKLR
OP, what makes you think they are not sought after?
Average ELA Score by School (Top 60 Schools)
School Without Walls High School 94.07
Benjamin Banneker High School 88.62
Janney Elementary School 88.19
Ross Elementary School 86.66
Key Elementary School 80.25
Average Math Score by School (Top 60)
Stoddert Elementary School 83.05
Janney Elementary School 81.57
Lafayette Elementary School 81.36
Ross Elementary School 78.33
Key Elementary School 73.88
With exception of magnet high schools at the top, the top scores are simply the richest and whitest schools. When you really break it down at most of the schools, they actually underperform compared to other non-JKLMs. Hint, check out the black student performance at Lafayette.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 14:26
Subject: Can we please stop with the JKLM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are not the best or most sought after schools. There are plenty of other excellent schools, which in some instances rate higher, than those schools - look at the most recent PARCC scores. I don't understand this forum's obsession.
I suspect the forum's obsession with JKLM schools is related to where people who post on here live.
It is shorthand for west of the park Deal feeder elementary schools, minus Hearst (not sure why, maybe it didn't always feed Deal or some other no longer applicable reason?)
Key and Mann feed to Hardy.
I think JKLM (Janney, Key, Lafayette, Mann) dates back to the days before charter schools had really taken hold, when the NW elementaries had the reputation of being basically the only game in town. Now, we have HRCSs. And plenty of other elementaries that DCUM would not have considered a decade ago. This is why you hear "JKLM" so rarely anymore here that people don't know what it stands for.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 14:20
Subject: Can we please stop with the JKLM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are not the best or most sought after schools. There are plenty of other excellent schools, which in some instances rate higher, than those schools - look at the most recent PARCC scores. I don't understand this forum's obsession.
I suspect the forum's obsession with JKLM schools is related to where people who post on here live.
I don't live in JKLM or send my kids there, bit that's just too easy. Those schools are the topic of frequent discussion because they, along with their MS and HS feeders, are the best in DCPS. Parents who strive to provide to their kids the best education are therefore understandably fixated on JKLM.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 14:01
Subject: Re:Can we please stop with the JKLM
Meant to say Hearst has always fed to Deal.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 14:00
Subject: Re:Can we please stop with the JKLM
Hearst feeds to Deal still. I think it was excluded because it used to be majority OOB and diverse ... but now the demographics are the same as JKLM.
Anonymous
08/28/2023 13:57
Subject: Can we please stop with the JKLM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are not the best or most sought after schools. There are plenty of other excellent schools, which in some instances rate higher, than those schools - look at the most recent PARCC scores. I don't understand this forum's obsession.
I suspect the forum's obsession with JKLM schools is related to where people who post on here live.
It is shorthand for west of the park Deal feeder elementary schools, minus Hearst (not sure why, maybe it didn't always feed Deal or some other no longer applicable reason?)