Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 10:44     Subject: Re:Arlington magazine - Public school exodus cover

Anonymous wrote:APS suffers from the same types of problems most school districts suffer from. Portraying APS as an outlier is misleading. Closing schools during covid and forbidding new content in the first few months - that was a pretty epic fail. Now that we’re back in person, though, it’s basically what it’s always been. If your kid doesn’t have a learning disability, picked up reading naturally, and has parental support / encouragement, the school system has a lot to offer. If your kid has a learning disability, lots of parents report inadequate services and accommodations from APS. The quality of the education isn’t tied up in zealous liberal ideology - that’s crazy pants fantastical thinking that sounds like a rant you might hear at a nationally televised school board meeting in Loudon County. We have one kid in private and one in APS and it’s fine.


+1

Seems like the Arlington magazine guy has an agenda.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 10:41     Subject: Re:Arlington magazine - Public school exodus cover

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just can't get super worked up about this. A bunch of things going on. A huge factor is Arlington is getting wealthier and wealthier. More people CAN afford private school than ever before. Covid, some left and won't ever come back. And yes, the equity dog whistle. [google]There is a lot of misrepresentation I see on this board about how there is no homework (not true), no one is allowed to fail any more (not true), everyone gets an A (not true), no rigorous content for more advanced students (not true), blah, blah. High school is plenty rigorous in APS if your student is capable and on that track. Intensified content is back in middle school. And if you want your kid pulled out for gifted services in APS, well we never did that so move to Fairfax and enjoy all that comes with that.

Many kids are still going public in Arlington and my genuine reaction is I'm glad for anyone to leave. More space for my kids and I hope it siphons off the more extreme wealth, which I don't want my kids around anyway.


Exactly. People misrepresenting probably don’t even have kids in APS.



Did you see the link I posted regarding writing at APS. We need to stop denying that there are issues. Most grads are unprepared for college. This is a country wide issue and Arlington is not immune.


I’m a DP and I read it. Thank you for posting this. I am grateful to hear these perspectives. It is beyond unacceptable that students are reporting [b]they were never assigned a research paper during their entire time at APS
. To this day I can remember some of the research papers I was assigned in my (excellent) public high school. My first research paper was assigned in 5th grade. We had a unit on using the library for research and we all had to write a 2 page paper. I’m not sure if we should expect research papers from 5th graders, but by high school it should be standard for all English and History classes.

How in the world is this not happening? Is the student wrong?


That is BS. Kids do have research papers starting in ES.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 10:40     Subject: Re:Arlington magazine - Public school exodus cover

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just can't get super worked up about this. A bunch of things going on. A huge factor is Arlington is getting wealthier and wealthier. More people CAN afford private school than ever before. Covid, some left and won't ever come back. And yes, the equity dog whistle. [google]There is a lot of misrepresentation I see on this board about how there is no homework (not true), no one is allowed to fail any more (not true), everyone gets an A (not true), no rigorous content for more advanced students (not true), blah, blah. High school is plenty rigorous in APS if your student is capable and on that track. Intensified content is back in middle school. And if you want your kid pulled out for gifted services in APS, well we never did that so move to Fairfax and enjoy all that comes with that.[b]

Many kids are still going public in Arlington and my genuine reaction is I'm glad for anyone to leave. More space for my kids and I hope it siphons off the more extreme wealth, which I don't want my kids around anyway.


Exactly. People misrepresenting probably don’t even have kids in APS.



Did you see the link I posted regarding writing at APS. We need to stop denying that there are issues. Most grads are unprepared for college. This is a country wide issue and Arlington is not immune.


?

I didn’t say there were zero issues and I agree that writing should be improved. I was commenting on the points PP listed above.

Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 10:27     Subject: Arlington magazine - Public school exodus cover

Article was pandering to their advertisers—who are . . . wait for it, private schools!
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 10:26     Subject: Re:Arlington magazine - Public school exodus cover

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just can't get super worked up about this. A bunch of things going on. A huge factor is Arlington is getting wealthier and wealthier. More people CAN afford private school than ever before. Covid, some left and won't ever come back. And yes, the equity dog whistle. [google]There is a lot of misrepresentation I see on this board about how there is no homework (not true), no one is allowed to fail any more (not true), everyone gets an A (not true), no rigorous content for more advanced students (not true), blah, blah. High school is plenty rigorous in APS if your student is capable and on that track. Intensified content is back in middle school. And if you want your kid pulled out for gifted services in APS, well we never did that so move to Fairfax and enjoy all that comes with that.[b]

Many kids are still going public in Arlington and my genuine reaction is I'm glad for anyone to leave. More space for my kids and I hope it siphons off the more extreme wealth, which I don't want my kids around anyway.


Exactly. People misrepresenting probably don’t even have kids in APS.



Did you see the link I posted regarding writing at APS. We need to stop denying that there are issues. Most grads are unprepared for college. This is a country wide issue and Arlington is not immune.


I’m a DP and I read it. Thank you for posting this. I am grateful to hear these perspectives. It is beyond unacceptable that students are reporting they were never assigned a research paper during their entire time at APS. To this day I can remember some of the research papers I was assigned in my (excellent) public high school. My first research paper was assigned in 5th grade. We had a unit on using the library for research and we all had to write a 2 page paper. I’m not sure if we should expect research papers from 5th graders, but by high school it should be standard for all English and History classes.

How in the world is this not happening? Is the student wrong?
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 10:17     Subject: Re:Arlington magazine - Public school exodus cover

APS suffers from the same types of problems most school districts suffer from. Portraying APS as an outlier is misleading. Closing schools during covid and forbidding new content in the first few months - that was a pretty epic fail. Now that we’re back in person, though, it’s basically what it’s always been. If your kid doesn’t have a learning disability, picked up reading naturally, and has parental support / encouragement, the school system has a lot to offer. If your kid has a learning disability, lots of parents report inadequate services and accommodations from APS. The quality of the education isn’t tied up in zealous liberal ideology - that’s crazy pants fantastical thinking that sounds like a rant you might hear at a nationally televised school board meeting in Loudon County. We have one kid in private and one in APS and it’s fine.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 10:10     Subject: Re:Arlington magazine - Public school exodus cover

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just can't get super worked up about this. A bunch of things going on. A huge factor is Arlington is getting wealthier and wealthier. More people CAN afford private school than ever before. Covid, some left and won't ever come back. And yes, the equity dog whistle. [google]There is a lot of misrepresentation I see on this board about how there is no homework (not true), no one is allowed to fail any more (not true), everyone gets an A (not true), no rigorous content for more advanced students (not true), blah, blah. High school is plenty rigorous in APS if your student is capable and on that track. Intensified content is back in middle school. And if you want your kid pulled out for gifted services in APS, well we never did that so move to Fairfax and enjoy all that comes with that.[b]

Many kids are still going public in Arlington and my genuine reaction is I'm glad for anyone to leave. More space for my kids and I hope it siphons off the more extreme wealth, which I don't want my kids around anyway.


Exactly. People misrepresenting probably don’t even have kids in APS.



Did you see the link I posted regarding writing at APS. We need to stop denying that there are issues. Most grads are unprepared for college. This is a country wide issue and Arlington is not immune.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 09:58     Subject: Re:Arlington magazine - Public school exodus cover

Anonymous wrote:I just can't get super worked up about this. A bunch of things going on. A huge factor is Arlington is getting wealthier and wealthier. More people CAN afford private school than ever before. Covid, some left and won't ever come back. And yes, the equity dog whistle. [google]There is a lot of misrepresentation I see on this board about how there is no homework (not true), no one is allowed to fail any more (not true), everyone gets an A (not true), no rigorous content for more advanced students (not true), blah, blah. High school is plenty rigorous in APS if your student is capable and on that track. Intensified content is back in middle school. And if you want your kid pulled out for gifted services in APS, well we never did that so move to Fairfax and enjoy all that comes with that.[b]

Many kids are still going public in Arlington and my genuine reaction is I'm glad for anyone to leave. More space for my kids and I hope it siphons off the more extreme wealth, which I don't want my kids around anyway.


Exactly. People misrepresenting probably don’t even have kids in APS.

Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 09:56     Subject: Arlington magazine - Public school exodus cover

Retaking tests is a way for kids to continue their learning and fill in gaps. I think it’s great.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 09:54     Subject: Re:Arlington magazine - Public school exodus cover

Anonymous wrote:I just can't get super worked up about this. A bunch of things going on. A huge factor is Arlington is getting wealthier and wealthier. More people CAN afford private school than ever before. Covid, some left and won't ever come back. And yes, the equity dog whistle. There is a lot of misrepresentation I see on this board about how there is no homework (not true), no one is allowed to fail any more (not true), everyone gets an A (not true), no rigorous content for more advanced students (not true), blah, blah. High school is plenty rigorous in APS if your student is capable and on that track. Intensified content is back in middle school. And if you want your kid pulled out for gifted services in APS, well we never did that so move to Fairfax and enjoy all that comes with that.

Many kids are still going public in Arlington and my genuine reaction is I'm glad for anyone to leave. More space for my kids and I hope it siphons off the more extreme wealth, which I don't want my kids around anyway.


It's interesting to hear you say some of those common talking points aren't true. We've always been in catholic, so I just hear people talking and they definitely say there's no homework in elementary or middle school and you can retake tests (so hard to fail and easier to get As). Is that not true? Genuinely curious.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 09:50     Subject: Re:Arlington magazine - Public school exodus cover

Anonymous wrote:I just can't get super worked up about this. A bunch of things going on. A huge factor is Arlington is getting wealthier and wealthier. More people CAN afford private school than ever before. Covid, some left and won't ever come back. And yes, the equity dog whistle. There is a lot of misrepresentation I see on this board about how there is no homework (not true), no one is allowed to fail any more (not true), everyone gets an A (not true), no rigorous content for more advanced students (not true), blah, blah. High school is plenty rigorous in APS if your student is capable and on that track. Intensified content is back in middle school. And if you want your kid pulled out for gifted services in APS, well we never did that so move to Fairfax and enjoy all that comes with that.

Many kids are still going public in Arlington and my genuine reaction is I'm glad for anyone to leave. More space for my kids and I hope it siphons off the more extreme wealth, which I don't want my kids around anyway.


Arlington definitely has a writing problem though. Most graduates don’t believe that they were prepared for college. See this here for some comments https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/ELAAC-alumni-data-2019.pdf?fbclid=IwAR346176o-ffh5BxvcZfNCGwt3aDlw4c3nus_GURxbex-DCdpCyQBUj6Rhg

I know the ELAAC committee’s main goal for this year is to push for improvements in writing instruction in schools. However this has not happened yet and there is no guarantee that it will. Standards are going down. Thankfully there has been some positive changes such as improving the elementary ELA curriculum. But the curriculum is new and some schools are completely ignoring it.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 09:41     Subject: Re:Arlington magazine - Public school exodus cover

Anonymous wrote:I just can't get super worked up about this. A bunch of things going on. A huge factor is Arlington is getting wealthier and wealthier. More people CAN afford private school than ever before. Covid, some left and won't ever come back. And yes, the equity dog whistle. There is a lot of misrepresentation I see on this board about how there is no homework (not true), no one is allowed to fail any more (not true), everyone gets an A (not true), no rigorous content for more advanced students (not true), blah, blah. High school is plenty rigorous in APS if your student is capable and on that track. Intensified content is back in middle school. And if you want your kid pulled out for gifted services in APS, well we never did that so move to Fairfax and enjoy all that comes with that.

Many kids are still going public in Arlington and my genuine reaction is I'm glad for anyone to leave. More space for my kids and I hope it siphons off the more extreme wealth, which I don't want my kids around anyway.


I agree with the part about Arlington getting wealthier. I think that’s the main driver. If you aren’t happy with the product that APS offers for your child, and you can easily afford it, why not go private? In an overcrowded school district, you’re really not hurting anyone. Plenty of families will still choose public. The schools won’t be hurting for good studenfs.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 09:37     Subject: Arlington magazine - Public school exodus cover

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Saw this in WF in line. Didn’t get to read. Didn’t that happen in pandemic, I thought people were coming back?


The article was pointless. yeah, people left during the pandemic. Old news. No substantive material or information in the article.


It rarely has anything substantial.

Controversial cover to sell more ads for real estate agents.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 09:33     Subject: Arlington magazine - Public school exodus cover

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I left not because of Covid. Liberals can go f themselves before my dc are anywhere near one of your wack a doodle nut jobs in a classroom. You wanted only those like you. You got it. Enjoy.


Don’t let the door hit you in the ass. We absolutely don’t need your kind and your anti-American values.


Yes we do. Arlington has become an echo chamber and with no dissent there is no discussion and terrible choices are implemented. Fake “ equity” ruins education in Arlington especially for those without money. The rich simply virtue signal and then pay for private support through tutors.


Ah, there it is. You’re racist. No, we really absolutely don’t need your racist ass here.

Your children though, would benefit from our schools. You’re not a fit parent and it would be optimal to take them away from you so they don’t grow up with your disgusting, racist values.


+1
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 09:28     Subject: Re:Arlington magazine - Public school exodus cover

I just can't get super worked up about this. A bunch of things going on. A huge factor is Arlington is getting wealthier and wealthier. More people CAN afford private school than ever before. Covid, some left and won't ever come back. And yes, the equity dog whistle. There is a lot of misrepresentation I see on this board about how there is no homework (not true), no one is allowed to fail any more (not true), everyone gets an A (not true), no rigorous content for more advanced students (not true), blah, blah. High school is plenty rigorous in APS if your student is capable and on that track. Intensified content is back in middle school. And if you want your kid pulled out for gifted services in APS, well we never did that so move to Fairfax and enjoy all that comes with that.

Many kids are still going public in Arlington and my genuine reaction is I'm glad for anyone to leave. More space for my kids and I hope it siphons off the more extreme wealth, which I don't want my kids around anyway.