Anonymous wrote:Why are you against the Center?

I think kids should be receiving the services that they need at their base school with very rare exceptions, like specialized autism programs or programs for kids with ED. If my son had attended his Center school, he would have lost his classmates for MS and HS. The parents who do send their kids to the Center school have all commented that their kids don’t develop friendships with the kids in their class. Setting up time to play is hard, there are very few to no birthday parties, and they don’t have opportunities to hang out in the summer. I have heard more then one kid say that it was hard to find kids to hang out with.

If the kids who left our school for the Center stayed at the school, there would be about 15 kids for a LLIV class. Bring in the Advanced Math kids for Math and the LIII kids for LA and you would have a nice mix of kids who are at the level needed for the acceleration that is found in LIV.

I think the better solution is to have classes that rotate and are populated based on ability so that kids who are ahead are grouped together and kids who need more remediation are grouped together. There are kids who will be in different levels based on their ability and some kids will be in the same level for all subjects. Kids needs can be met at the local school, there shouldn’t be a need for a system like AAP.

Anonymous wrote:Why are you against the Center?

I’m not the OP, but I really wish we didn’t have to choose the center to get a non cluster model. The bus ride is nearly an hour, it feeds into a different high school than his base (so friends won’t stick around), and he doesn’t get to know the neighborhood kids (we moved here in 3rd grade)

Why are you against the Center?

According to schoolprofiles, Forestville has 103 kids in AAP L4 - enough for one full class per grade.

Anonymous wrote:Which elementary schools only allow LIV kids (committee placed) in their local level IV program?

Why? Are you looking for homes zoned for schools that do this? Well, there are none.

Anonymous wrote:Our base school had enough LIV kids opt to stay local that they could have made a class (there were 26 identified 3rd graders last year who stayed at the base school) but they chose to do a cluster model and put 5 or 6 in each classroom instead. This year a bunch of the families pulled for the center because cluster was just 2nd grade 2.0, no true differentiation (not knocking the teachers, it’s way too much to expect!)

What you want doesn’t exist in the local programs. That’s what the center is for.

Our kid has a LL4 class where majority are Level 4 and others are principal placed.

Our base school had enough LIV kids opt to stay local that they could have made a class (there were 26 identified 3rd graders last year who stayed at the base school) but they chose to do a cluster model and put 5 or 6 in each classroom instead. This year a bunch of the families pulled for the center because cluster was just 2nd grade 2.0, no true differentiation (not knocking the teachers, it’s way too much to expect!)

What you want doesn’t exist in the local programs. That’s what the center is for.

OP is a troll.

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Anonymous wrote:I might imagine places like great falls elementary or forestville elementary would have enough LIV kids that stay local instead of going to the center school to make up a full class some years.

Nah, the math does not add up. Great Falls ES and Forestville ES are a K-6 schools which have about 80-90 kids per grade. Since most or even half of the AAP kids are at center schools, it would take 40-45 kids out of 80-90 to be selected in AAP program which is impossible.

Great falls and forestville L4 kids usually stay local.

Anonymous wrote:I might imagine places like great falls elementary or forestville elementary would have enough LIV kids that stay local instead of going to the center school to make up a full class some years.

Nah, the math does not add up. Great Falls ES and Forestville ES are a K-6 schools which have about 80-90 kids per grade. Since most or even half of the AAP kids are at center schools, it would take 40-45 kids out of 80-90 to be selected in AAP program which is impossible.

I might imagine places like great falls elementary or forestville elementary would have enough LIV kids that stay local instead of going to the center school to make up a full class some years.

Anonymous wrote:I am not asking about centers. I am asking about local level IV programs. Which local level IV programs only allow committee placed level IV students in the local level IV class?

NONE.

LL4 has two models. Clustering or all L4 students in one class. My kids went to one with one class per grade. From what the teachers shared at the Orientation, 3rd grade is usually 50-60 percent Level 4, with Level 3 or other high achieving kids making up the rest. The said by 6th grade it ends up being 75% or higher of Level 4 kids as more kids get in after 3rd grade. So it will never be 100 percent Level 4, but by 6th grade can be very close. Obviously, every year is different depending on grade level sizes. My older son had like 80 kids in his grade while my younger son had 60.

OP - you need to send your child somewhere like Nysmith/Edlin/etc - one of the private schools that bills itself as being for gifted children. That is the only place you'll get what you want.

OMG I hope you are a troll, OP.