Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Exactly…..
What he had written had personal anecdotes and stories in it but it wasn’t coherent enough and the AI draft had more poignancy, descriptive words, and honestly just tighter writing.

The orig draft was just ok. It sounded unpolished. It’s like an editor took a pen to it.

This took a story, made it poignant and emotional and just tightened it all up. Kid will refit now and add more description and then ask us to edit again.

Let’s see. It actually was really good to get over a writing block/hump.

um no, it’s cheating.

I don’t think so. It’s like working with an essay editor.

it’s cheating.

So is hiring a college essay editor

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Exactly…..
What he had written had personal anecdotes and stories in it but it wasn’t coherent enough and the AI draft had more poignancy, descriptive words, and honestly just tighter writing.

The orig draft was just ok. It sounded unpolished. It’s like an editor took a pen to it.

This took a story, made it poignant and emotional and just tightened it all up. Kid will refit now and add more description and then ask us to edit again.

Let’s see. It actually was really good to get over a writing block/hump.

um no, it’s cheating.

I don’t think so. It’s like working with an essay editor.

it’s cheating.

For editing, colleges are fine with it. OP looks like you’re ok.


Georgia Tech: "In the same way you would not copy directly from any other source you may incorporate into the writing process, you should not copy and paste directly out of any AI platform or submit work that you did not originally create. Instead, approach and consider any interaction with an AI tool as a learning experience that may help you generate ideas, provide alternative phrasing options, and organize your thoughts. Ultimately, we want to read and hear your unique and valuable writing style."

Anonymous wrote:This is the op.

Agree many ways to test and sometimes the test bot it wrong.

My DH wrote a draft why xyz school paragraph for his alma mater for our kid to compare /get ideas from/ etc.
Bot said it was 75% AI generated! It literally came straight from my husbands brain/voice to the computer. Weird.

Yes, we are an overly invested really close family and this is what we do together right now every night after dinner.

Your DH is a bot! AI has taken over!

Anonymous wrote:This is the op.

Agree many ways to test and sometimes the test bot it wrong.

My DH wrote a draft why xyz school paragraph for his alma mater for our kid to compare /get ideas from/ etc.
Bot said it was 75% AI generated! It literally came straight from my husbands brain/voice to the computer. Weird.

Yes, we are an overly invested really close family and this is what we do together right now every night after dinner.

Hmm. Someone else mentioned false positives too…

So what happens then? Do you get a chance to defend yourself to the school??

And btw we were using GPT-4

This is the op.

Agree many ways to test and sometimes the test bot it wrong.

My DH wrote a draft why xyz school paragraph for his alma mater for our kid to compare /get ideas from/ etc.
Bot said it was 75% AI generated! It literally came straight from my husbands brain/voice to the computer. Weird.

Yes, we are an overly invested really close family and this is what we do together right now every night after dinner.

Anonymous wrote:The AI test bot, was the AI authors cousin, so it let the essay slide. You won’t know which AI test bots the schools are using.

x10000

There are many ways of testing, OP.

Pick a lane, people:

1. Schools are terrible, and students are dumb and talentless.

2. AI cannot match the wisdom and talent of a kid.

Anonymous wrote:My son uses it in school all the time. Think they all do.

Same here. Sadly.

Anonymous wrote:Congrats! He just gave the website his work and it will be used/replicated.

But agree with PP that you don’t know good writing if you think these things write in a way that will make someone stand out in admissions.

The only thing the AI needs a bad draft essay for, is to train it to make bad drafts that teachers are going to start requiring in order to "prevent" AI essay writing.

I'm going to try that. I highly doubt my son's very personal, very thoughtful, essay could have been AI-improved, because it was written in "his" voice and frankly it was such a great reflection of himself.

But I'll try it and see. He's in college already, so it's just an experiment.

My son uses it in school all the time. Think they all do.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Exactly…..
What he had written had personal anecdotes and stories in it but it wasn’t coherent enough and the AI draft had more poignancy, descriptive words, and honestly just tighter writing.

The orig draft was just ok. It sounded unpolished. It’s like an editor took a pen to it.

This took a story, made it poignant and emotional and just tightened it all up. Kid will refit now and add more description and then ask us to edit again.

Let’s see. It actually was really good to get over a writing block/hump.

um no, it’s cheating.

I don’t think so. It’s like working with an essay editor.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know about essays but my DS and I were fooling around with LLM generated song lyrics and poems. The AI can rhyme for sure and come up with thematically appropriate words, but the results truly were not that great. They were decent if the assignment was “write a poem” but lacked spark and creativity. So I can believe AI can generate a passing college essay but not an amazing one.

But what if you’re not asking it to write the essay but only edit the essay? Change things around? Add more description, and better word choice?

Meaning you already wrote some thing, but you want the AI tool to make it better? I think all these people think the essay was written by the Bot. No.

The draft essay was written by the kid who then copied and pasted it, and asked bot to improve it, make it emotional. Make it Impactful. And then fix the word count.