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Anonymous wrote:There’s been less of a divide at the extreme liberal schools since there’s been open discussion of the racism (particularly anti-Black racism) inherent in a lot of the anti-athlete attitudes.

It depends on the school's "top" sports though. At many LACs, the "top" sports are sports like Lacrosse, that are almost 100% white and private school.

Yes, but that doesn’t remove the fact that on many campuses, anti-athlete sentiment was (and is) a very, very thin cover for anti-Black racism.

Are you saying the hostility to lacrosse bros at Amherst stems from anti-Black racism?? This makes zero sense.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s been less of a divide at the extreme liberal schools since there’s been open discussion of the racism (particularly anti-Black racism) inherent in a lot of the anti-athlete attitudes.

It depends on the school's "top" sports though. At many LACs, the "top" sports are sports like Lacrosse, that are almost 100% white and private school.

Yes, but that doesn’t remove the fact that on many campuses, anti-athlete sentiment was (and is) a very, very thin cover for anti-Black racism.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the goal here? Will you only really feel good about life when a lax bro and theater person is hanging out on a regular basis.

Why?

Not PP but it really limits social life.

OP- I mean, given everyone’s obsession with the benefits of diversity, it could be seen as disappointing if campuses are segregated in such a way.

Anonymous wrote:What is the goal here? Will you only really feel good about life when a lax bro and theater person is hanging out on a regular basis.

Why?

Not PP but it really limits social life.

The anti-athletes are just so weird and so insecure. My super nerdy and theatre obsessed daughter went to a top liberal arts college and couldn’t care less about the damned athletes. She did her thing and they did theirs.

And check this out. We visited our daughter one weekend when she was directing a play. We were walking on campus and some friendly man said hello and asked if we were visiting parents. We said yes, our daughter is directing a play. He said “is it [x] play?” and we said it sure is. He then told us that he was the women’s basketball coach and that the whole team was going to go to the play that night.

Relax, people. Really. Just relax.

Anonymous wrote:How serous is the social divide for people who have recent experience? How does it manifest? And how problematic is it?

It was serious at Amherst. I can't comment on others. It can be difficult as community is small, town is small and winters really limit your exposure to people.

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Anonymous wrote:Parents of non athletes hate the athletes. Their fellow students don’t.

This is not an accurate statement. The divide is real at several top LACs. Lacrosse bros are typically the most segregated. next is usually football players.

The most SLAC athlete/non-athlete divides are at Amherst College and at Middlebury College.

Similar athlete/non-athlete divide at all size of colleges & universities, but the larger the school, the less impact it has on a student's day-to-day life.

Nope. As a parent of an Amherst kid - this is not true. No D3 schools gives a crap about athletes. They are all smart kids - some play sports - some dont. No one cares.

Not accurate according to Amherst College study which found a significant divide between athletes and non-athletes at Amherst College.

Report finds divide between athletes and non-athletes at Amherst College:

https://www.gazettenet.com/Amherst-college-assesses-athletics-in-report-7871942

The Boston Globe and The Daily Beast have also published several articles regarding athletic divide at Amherst College.

The article is from 2017 and details a report from 2014-15. Biddy Martin is no longer president and every student involved (athletes and non athletes) has graduated and moved on.
I can't speak to Amherst specifically, as I have no first-hand knowledge of the culture there, but you're sharing very outdated information.

Is an article written and published by then current Amherst students in 2021 recent enough ?

The Amherst Student--March 17,2021:

Seeing Double: Bridging Amherst's Athletic Divide

(The link at first won't work, then the screen will change. Scroll down a bit to the article.)

https://www.amherststudent.com/article/bridging-amhersts-athletic-divide/

Anonymous wrote:Athletes at Middlebury College coined the tern NARP = non-athlete regular person

"The ongoing athlete vs. non-athlete divide continues to plague Middlebury's campus."

https://www.medium.com/@beppler/bridging-the-gap-rethinking-athlete-privilege-f5dffc2ec0fa

Do you have anything written since 2017?

What is the goal here? Will you only really feel good about life when a lax bro and theater person is hanging out on a regular basis.

Why?

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Anonymous wrote:There’s been less of a divide at the extreme liberal schools since there’s been open discussion of the racism (particularly anti-Black racism) inherent in a lot of the anti-athlete attitudes.

It depends on the school's "top" sports though. At many LACs, the "top" sports are sports like Lacrosse, that are almost 100% white and private school.

Or a school like Colgate which has D1 hockey

Anonymous wrote:There’s been less of a divide at the extreme liberal schools since there’s been open discussion of the racism (particularly anti-Black racism) inherent in a lot of the anti-athlete attitudes.

It depends on the school's "top" sports though. At many LACs, the "top" sports are sports like Lacrosse, that are almost 100% white and private school.

Athletes at Middlebury College coined the tern NARP = non-athlete regular person

"The ongoing athlete vs. non-athlete divide continues to plague Middlebury's campus."

https://www.medium.com/@beppler/bridging-the-gap-rethinking-athlete-privilege-f5dffc2ec0fa

There’s been less of a divide at the extreme liberal schools since there’s been open discussion of the racism (particularly anti-Black racism) inherent in a lot of the anti-athlete attitudes.

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Anonymous wrote:Parents of non athletes hate the athletes. Their fellow students don’t.

This is not an accurate statement. The divide is real at several top LACs. Lacrosse bros are typically the most segregated. next is usually football players.

The most SLAC athlete/non-athlete divides are at Amherst College and at Middlebury College.

Similar athlete/non-athlete divide at all size of colleges & universities, but the larger the school, the less impact it has on a student's day-to-day life.

Don't get me started on this..I went to Hopkins where Lacrosse is everything. (Not a LAC but you get the idea)

Anonymous wrote:How serous is the social divide for people who have recent experience? How does it manifest? And how problematic is it?

Amherst has taken steps to bridge the divide (starting w expensive consultants on just how to do this .. don’t get me started). So I assume there’s a divide if they’re actively trying to resolve this.