Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 15:57     Subject: MCPS Should Be Ashamed
Anonymous wrote:We already knew this but wow. I just saw my new classroom and central office has no business being that bloated, with a 3 BILLION dollar budget, yet classrooms are in decrepit conditions. Everything in here is so old, dirty, and disgusting, I'm about to walk out. The STUDENTS deserve better, not McKnight and her useless cronies who get paid to basically do nothing all day with nice salaries. I'm just so grossed out.


McKnight is mostly concerned with SJ and not focused on classrooms or academics.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 14:31     Subject: Re:MCPS Should Be Ashamed
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:they spend too much or not enough... wtf are you saying


DP. They spend on the wrong things. This could not be more clear from the post. Why are you so confused by it?


So... you want nicer buildings?
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 14:29     Subject: MCPS Should Be Ashamed
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Buy-bye. Don’t let the door hit your backside!


What an insane reaction to the bloat and gluttony at mcps


I know. We have a teacher shortage in the county right now and OP was merely expressing their own experience today and are told to quit? Seriously, wtf.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 14:26     Subject: MCPS Should Be Ashamed
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I agree with OP that some things in MCPS are horrifying, sexual assault cases in particular!

But I don't see the disgusting classrooms anywhere. Which school are you working in, OP? My kids have been in elementary, middle and high schools (different ones because they were in different programs), and apart from that one episode where the sprinkler system sprayed dirty water everywhere, the building are usually pretty clean. Then during the school year, the bathrooms get progressively more unkempt, and there might be rodents, but... nothing spectacular.

There are HVAC issues in multiple schools, where some classrooms are way to hot or way to cold. There are leaks, occasionally. Are you talking about that? Sadly, know that the list of repairs and maintenance is LOOONG, and that schools have to wait their turn. I'm sorry if you're in one of those problematic rooms. I agree that it's not a good look for Central Office to spend all this money on itself, while some teachers and students suffer in a 90F art room, like my friend's child at Woodlin ES years ago (hopefully they've fixed it).



Rodents are nothing spectacular? What low standards you have.


Because rodents are everywhere, people. You probably have some on your property without knowing it. My daughter saw a little mouse running along the bookcase of her classroom at Bethesda elementary, and this is a CLEAN, well-run school, without leaks, or HVAC issues.

Your reaction makes me very wary of posts who deplore "awful conditions" in school buildings, because we've never had a problem with this particular school, and the sight of a little mouse in an otherwise well-kept school is nothing to be worried about. There are tons of rodents everywhere. You can't make them go away. All you do is keep the environment as clean as you can (and lay traps) to manage the population.

But if the OP were to come back and explain that her classroom has a mold issue, for example, that would be a more severe problem that needs to rocket to the top of the repair list.

You really need to understand construction priorities here. MCPS is lagging way behind on all their repairs and maintenance, that's one thing. But don't freak out over the mere word "rodent", because that's just dumb.


Wrong AGAIN. BE used to (probably still does) have infestation. And it's certainly not that clean on the inside. Reading specialist was always commenting about how dirty she felt and she's right. You've been inside a school building so you think you know them all. Seriously, who is the dumb (and delusional) one? You dont work in these buildings-stop commenting like you're some authority figure on the issue because all you're doing is showcasing your ignorance (which from your post, you probably do quite a bit)
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 13:09     Subject: MCPS Should Be Ashamed
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I agree with OP that some things in MCPS are horrifying, sexual assault cases in particular!

But I don't see the disgusting classrooms anywhere. Which school are you working in, OP? My kids have been in elementary, middle and high schools (different ones because they were in different programs), and apart from that one episode where the sprinkler system sprayed dirty water everywhere, the building are usually pretty clean. Then during the school year, the bathrooms get progressively more unkempt, and there might be rodents, but... nothing spectacular.

There are HVAC issues in multiple schools, where some classrooms are way to hot or way to cold. There are leaks, occasionally. Are you talking about that? Sadly, know that the list of repairs and maintenance is LOOONG, and that schools have to wait their turn. I'm sorry if you're in one of those problematic rooms. I agree that it's not a good look for Central Office to spend all this money on itself, while some teachers and students suffer in a 90F art room, like my friend's child at Woodlin ES years ago (hopefully they've fixed it).



Rodents are nothing spectacular? What low standards you have.


Because rodents are everywhere, people. You probably have some on your property without knowing it. My daughter saw a little mouse running along the bookcase of her classroom at Bethesda elementary, and this is a CLEAN, well-run school, without leaks, or HVAC issues.

Your reaction makes me very wary of posts who deplore "awful conditions" in school buildings, because we've never had a problem with this particular school, and the sight of a little mouse in an otherwise well-kept school is nothing to be worried about. There are tons of rodents everywhere. You can't make them go away. All you do is keep the environment as clean as you can (and lay traps) to manage the population.

But if the OP were to come back and explain that her classroom has a mold issue, for example, that would be a more severe problem that needs to rocket to the top of the repair list.

You really need to understand construction priorities here. MCPS is lagging way behind on all their repairs and maintenance, that's one thing. But don't freak out over the mere word "rodent", because that's just dumb.




The average person freaks out if there is a rodent in their living quarters. What makes you think they would tolerate mice in their kids' school environment?
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 13:02     Subject: MCPS Should Be Ashamed
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I agree with OP that some things in MCPS are horrifying, sexual assault cases in particular!

But I don't see the disgusting classrooms anywhere. Which school are you working in, OP? My kids have been in elementary, middle and high schools (different ones because they were in different programs), and apart from that one episode where the sprinkler system sprayed dirty water everywhere, the building are usually pretty clean. Then during the school year, the bathrooms get progressively more unkempt, and there might be rodents, but... nothing spectacular.

There are HVAC issues in multiple schools, where some classrooms are way to hot or way to cold. There are leaks, occasionally. Are you talking about that? Sadly, know that the list of repairs and maintenance is LOOONG, and that schools have to wait their turn. I'm sorry if you're in one of those problematic rooms. I agree that it's not a good look for Central Office to spend all this money on itself, while some teachers and students suffer in a 90F art room, like my friend's child at Woodlin ES years ago (hopefully they've fixed it).



Rodents are nothing spectacular? What low standards you have.


Because rodents are everywhere, people. You probably have some on your property without knowing it. My daughter saw a little mouse running along the bookcase of her classroom at Bethesda elementary, and this is a CLEAN, well-run school, without leaks, or HVAC issues.

Your reaction makes me very wary of posts who deplore "awful conditions" in school buildings, because we've never had a problem with this particular school, and the sight of a little mouse in an otherwise well-kept school is nothing to be worried about. There are tons of rodents everywhere. You can't make them go away. All you do is keep the environment as clean as you can (and lay traps) to manage the population.

But if the OP were to come back and explain that her classroom has a mold issue, for example, that would be a more severe problem that needs to rocket to the top of the repair list.

You really need to understand construction priorities here. MCPS is lagging way behind on all their repairs and maintenance, that's one thing. But don't freak out over the mere word "rodent", because that's just dumb.


You need to get out of Bethesda more.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 12:55     Subject: MCPS Should Be Ashamed
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I agree with OP that some things in MCPS are horrifying, sexual assault cases in particular!

But I don't see the disgusting classrooms anywhere. Which school are you working in, OP? My kids have been in elementary, middle and high schools (different ones because they were in different programs), and apart from that one episode where the sprinkler system sprayed dirty water everywhere, the building are usually pretty clean. Then during the school year, the bathrooms get progressively more unkempt, and there might be rodents, but... nothing spectacular.

There are HVAC issues in multiple schools, where some classrooms are way to hot or way to cold. There are leaks, occasionally. Are you talking about that? Sadly, know that the list of repairs and maintenance is LOOONG, and that schools have to wait their turn. I'm sorry if you're in one of those problematic rooms. I agree that it's not a good look for Central Office to spend all this money on itself, while some teachers and students suffer in a 90F art room, like my friend's child at Woodlin ES years ago (hopefully they've fixed it).



Rodents are nothing spectacular? What low standards you have.


Because rodents are everywhere, people. You probably have some on your property without knowing it. My daughter saw a little mouse running along the bookcase of her classroom at Bethesda elementary, and this is a CLEAN, well-run school, without leaks, or HVAC issues.

Your reaction makes me very wary of posts who deplore "awful conditions" in school buildings, because we've never had a problem with this particular school, and the sight of a little mouse in an otherwise well-kept school is nothing to be worried about. There are tons of rodents everywhere. You can't make them go away. All you do is keep the environment as clean as you can (and lay traps) to manage the population.

But if the OP were to come back and explain that her classroom has a mold issue, for example, that would be a more severe problem that needs to rocket to the top of the repair list.

You really need to understand construction priorities here. MCPS is lagging way behind on all their repairs and maintenance, that's one thing. But don't freak out over the mere word "rodent", because that's just dumb.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 12:49     Subject: MCPS Should Be Ashamed
Anonymous wrote:Buy-bye. Don’t let the door hit your backside!


What an insane reaction to the bloat and gluttony at mcps
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 12:31     Subject: MCPS Should Be Ashamed
Anonymous wrote:What specifically are you worried about OP? Look at classrooms in NYC PS before complaining about MCPS


You have the reasoning of an immature child. Are you going to tell their kids they should never in their lives be sad because somewhere, some other kid probably has it worse? Yikes.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 12:23     Subject: MCPS Should Be Ashamed
So funny how last week everyone hated MCPS and OP makes a VERY valid point about the condition of the buildings, which you should absolutely care about if you're a parent,but per usual, you just feel like trashing teachers. Seriously, no wonder they all are leaving. Sorry (not sorry..happy for you) you didn't see it at YOUR kids school,. so it couldnt possibly be true, right? I'm sure you havent walked into every single MCPS building. Just...shaking my head.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 12:02     Subject: MCPS Should Be Ashamed
Sometimes I think CO gets 6 figure or half a million salaries to purposefully make education hell on earth. I think they are corrupted to bring education down to nothing via pass them along mentality, freeforall crime and violence wise. Then baming and shaming teachers when the violate our contracts and shame us as the problem. We are literally the only ones working and we do it for poverty wages and are pressured to fraud the numbers. Some teacher go to jail around the US for the same thing because their principal made them change test scores to get funding and a big bonus. Geese.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 11:53     Subject: MCPS Should Be Ashamed
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What specifically are you worried about OP? Look at classrooms in NYC PS before complaining about MCPS


This is not a great response. The fact that classrooms in NYC are awful doesn't make it any better that classrooms in MCPS are terrible. The demise of our public schools - when they look back at how America collapsed - is going to be one of the biggest causes. Public schools made this country great - they gave us a unified understanding of what it means to be American. They taught the leaders and experts that helped this country grow strong. They are one of the reasons people are desperate to come to America - for the education.

Now many kids can't even read. Complete disaster for America's future.


School construction/renovation comes out of the capital budget, not the operating budget.

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/planning/cipmaster


There may be two budgets but there’s ultimately a finite amount of money spent on public schools, and MCPS is just one of many bloated public school system where too much money goes into administrative fiefdoms and fancy central offices, and too little goes into school facilities.

If it doesn’t bother you that some incompetent buffoon like Monica McKnight gets paid a ton and has fancy digs, while teachers with many years of experience are relegated to dilapidated classrooms, you’re part of the problem.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 11:41     Subject: MCPS Should Be Ashamed
Thank you for raising this issue OP.
There are a number of MCPS schools that are really in terrible, almost dangerous disrepair. I think most people on this board do not have kids in these schools because they are the ones in poorer areas that have been badly neglected.

Pipes have burst in some of them, spewing sewage water. Boards are coming up from the gym floors and the gyms are really dark because the electrical is broken and cannot be fixed without tearing up a lot of the walls. Water fountains are closed for months due to contamination.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 11:08     Subject: MCPS Should Be Ashamed
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I agree with OP that some things in MCPS are horrifying, sexual assault cases in particular!

But I don't see the disgusting classrooms anywhere. Which school are you working in, OP? My kids have been in elementary, middle and high schools (different ones because they were in different programs), and apart from that one episode where the sprinkler system sprayed dirty water everywhere, the building are usually pretty clean. Then during the school year, the bathrooms get progressively more unkempt, and there might be rodents, but... nothing spectacular.

There are HVAC issues in multiple schools, where some classrooms are way to hot or way to cold. There are leaks, occasionally. Are you talking about that? Sadly, know that the list of repairs and maintenance is LOOONG, and that schools have to wait their turn. I'm sorry if you're in one of those problematic rooms. I agree that it's not a good look for Central Office to spend all this money on itself, while some teachers and students suffer in a 90F art room, like my friend's child at Woodlin ES years ago (hopefully they've fixed it).



Rodents are nothing spectacular? What low standards you have.


Seriously!
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 10:27     Subject: MCPS Should Be Ashamed
Anonymous wrote:
I agree with OP that some things in MCPS are horrifying, sexual assault cases in particular!

But I don't see the disgusting classrooms anywhere. Which school are you working in, OP? My kids have been in elementary, middle and high schools (different ones because they were in different programs), and apart from that one episode where the sprinkler system sprayed dirty water everywhere, the building are usually pretty clean. Then during the school year, the bathrooms get progressively more unkempt, and there might be rodents, but... nothing spectacular.

There are HVAC issues in multiple schools, where some classrooms are way to hot or way to cold. There are leaks, occasionally. Are you talking about that? Sadly, know that the list of repairs and maintenance is LOOONG, and that schools have to wait their turn. I'm sorry if you're in one of those problematic rooms. I agree that it's not a good look for Central Office to spend all this money on itself, while some teachers and students suffer in a 90F art room, like my friend's child at Woodlin ES years ago (hopefully they've fixed it).



Rodents are nothing spectacular? What low standards you have.