Anonymous
Post 08/21/2023 21:54     Subject: In-bounds verification
Anonymous wrote:As long as your drivers license and most recent tax filing are attached to the in-boundary property, you're fine. Just run your taxes through the residence - that's all you need for annual recertification.
. +100. This.
Anonymous
Post 08/21/2023 16:33     Subject: In-bounds verification
Anonymous wrote:As long as your drivers license and most recent tax filing are attached to the in-boundary property, you're fine. Just run your taxes through the residence - that's all you need for annual recertification.


so lie on your Real ID form and lie to your employer as well to change your w2 address? a concatenation of lies does not produce the truth. again you most likely won’t get caught but … it’s still perjury.
Anonymous
Post 08/21/2023 16:32     Subject: In-bounds verification
Anonymous wrote:If the properties are yours and you’re not formally renting either or you’re moving back and forth between them seasonally, do what you want. Hint: DC isn’t an authoritarian state.


that last bit is a nonsequitur. DC isn’t an “authoritarian state” but it does have laws. when you sign the OSSE residency form you are attesting under penalty of perjury that you actually live at that address - not that you own the property. you probably won’t get caught but please be clear on this - there is no property ownership loophole for school boundaries in DC.
Anonymous
Post 08/21/2023 16:23     Subject: In-bounds verification
As long as your drivers license and most recent tax filing are attached to the in-boundary property, you're fine. Just run your taxes through the residence - that's all you need for annual recertification.
Anonymous
Post 08/21/2023 11:48     Subject: In-bounds verification
If the properties are yours and you’re not formally renting either or you’re moving back and forth between them seasonally, do what you want. Hint: DC isn’t an authoritarian state.
Anonymous
Post 08/21/2023 11:19     Subject: In-bounds verification
Anonymous wrote:If you “get caught” all you have to do to close a residency fraud investigation is to provide 2-3 years of tax returns filed under the address used for enrollment. We were investigated and cleared in under 24 hours.


so you’re also committing tax fraud?

and a future investigation may not be so minimal.
Anonymous
Post 08/21/2023 11:17     Subject: In-bounds verification
If you “get caught” all you have to do to close a residency fraud investigation is to provide 2-3 years of tax returns filed under the address used for enrollment. We were investigated and cleared in under 24 hours.
Anonymous
Post 08/21/2023 07:56     Subject: Re:In-bounds verification
Anonymous wrote:True. Ignore the holier than though BS on this thread, OP. Having lived in Ward 6 for 30 years, we know that it’s not all that uncommon for DC families in gentrifying areas to use the addresses of second homes for elementary schools. What often happens is that small starter houses are retained as rentals by parents who decide to stay in DC in larger places If you don’t advertise that you continue to use address #1 for residency and can produce the residency docs linked to address #1 (driver’s license, withholding, utilities bills) things work out. You pay the taxes, you own the real estate, you get the choice of ES if you tune out the background noise. DCPS doesn’t give a hoot, at least if you fly low under the radar.


Sigh. DCPS *allows* you to continue through the terminal grade in the school, even if you move. You don’t have to “fly under the radar.”

DCPS *does not allow* using the address of a house you don’t currently live in when you initially enroll. You are committing perjury if you use the address of a house you are not living in.

Will you get caught? Probably not. But it’s still against the rules.
Anonymous
Post 08/21/2023 07:51     Subject: Re:In-bounds verification
True. Ignore the holier than though BS on this thread, OP. Having lived in Ward 6 for 30 years, we know that it’s not all that uncommon for DC families in gentrifying areas to use the addresses of second homes for elementary schools. What often happens is that small starter houses are retained as rentals by parents who decide to stay in DC in larger places If you don’t advertise that you continue to use address #1 for residency and can produce the residency docs linked to address #1 (driver’s license, withholding, utilities bills) things work out. You pay the taxes, you own the real estate, you get the choice of ES if you tune out the background noise. DCPS doesn’t give a hoot, at least if you fly low under the radar.
Anonymous
Post 08/21/2023 07:26     Subject: In-bounds verification
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some schools also do home visits. And if you move after you are enrolled as IB you are allowed to stay, at least through the end of the school.
. Nonsense. No DC family is ever obligated to accept a home visit from DC public school staff. When we were told that a home visit would be done by teachers from our DCPS ES we always declined, for reasons unrelated to residency. We would arrange to meet teachers as a family at an alternative location. Admins and teachers never objected.
This is true, OP. If you own the relevant real estate you get to decide which residence to use for DC public schools. You won’t get in hot water with DCPS or DCPS and can avoid busybody parents.


false
Anonymous
Post 08/21/2023 07:26     Subject: In-bounds verification
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have to actually live there, at least at the time of enrollment. Owning property isn't enough. They might not check, but if you want to know the rule, it's that you have to live there.

Consider how you would explain it to other parents if you want to have any playdates at your house. There's a lot of social shade thrown at boundary cheaters.


I think it’s actually ambiguous if you have multiple houses that no one lives in, especially if you could legitimately meet the residency documentation requirements at multiple of them. Then for most legal purposes, you could claim any as your residence. If what you mean is you own a house you rent out to someone else, then legally they can claim that as their residence and you cannot.


No, residency means where you *actually live.*


In some legal contexts, yes… in others, it’s not so simple. Certainly living in a house 51% of the time is sufficient. But given you can stay if you move in DCPS, living for one day could theoretically be enough. It’s a gray area if no one else can claim the residence.


you are wrong. the OSSE residency form has a definition of residence that requires actually living in the house and intending to stay there. and you sign the form under penalty of perjury.
Anonymous
Post 08/21/2023 06:28     Subject: In-bounds verification
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Some schools also do home visits. And if you move after you are enrolled as IB you are allowed to stay, at least through the end of the school.
. Nonsense. No DC family is ever obligated to accept a home visit from DC public school staff. When we were told that a home visit would be done by teachers from our DCPS ES we always declined, for reasons unrelated to residency. We would arrange to meet teachers as a family at an alternative location. Admins and teachers never objected.
This is true, OP. If you own the relevant real estate you get to decide which residence to use for DC public schools. You won’t get in hot water with DCPS or DCPS and can avoid busybody parents.
Anonymous
Post 08/21/2023 06:06     Subject: In-bounds verification
Anonymous wrote:You have to actually live there, at least at the time of enrollment. Owning property isn't enough. They might not check, but if you want to know the rule, it's that you have to live there.

Consider how you would explain it to other parents if you want to have any playdates at your house. There's a lot of social shade thrown at boundary cheaters.
Social shade? Silly. There’s no law that requires parents to host play dates with kids from school at their houses. Simply host play dates at your house with kids who aren’t from school or with kids whose parents you trust not to try to bust you. Host play dates at other locations with kids from school at alternative locations. Done.
Anonymous
Post 08/21/2023 06:00     Subject: In-bounds verification
Anonymous wrote:Some schools also do home visits. And if you move after you are enrolled as IB you are allowed to stay, at least through the end of the school.
. Nonsense. No DC family is ever obligated to accept a home visit from DC public school staff. When we were told that a home visit would be done by teachers from our DCPS ES we always declined, for reasons unrelated to residency. We would arrange to meet teachers as a family at an alternative location. Admins and teachers never objected.
Anonymous
Post 08/20/2023 22:12     Subject: In-bounds verification
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have to actually live there, at least at the time of enrollment. Owning property isn't enough. They might not check, but if you want to know the rule, it's that you have to live there.

Consider how you would explain it to other parents if you want to have any playdates at your house. There's a lot of social shade thrown at boundary cheaters.


I think it’s actually ambiguous if you have multiple houses that no one lives in, especially if you could legitimately meet the residency documentation requirements at multiple of them. Then for most legal purposes, you could claim any as your residence. If what you mean is you own a house you rent out to someone else, then legally they can claim that as their residence and you cannot.


No, residency means where you *actually live.*


In some legal contexts, yes… in others, it’s not so simple. Certainly living in a house 51% of the time is sufficient. But given you can stay if you move in DCPS, living for one day could theoretically be enough. It’s a gray area if no one else can claim the residence.