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Anonymous wrote:Botox in my 11's helped my RBF. People treat me better now that I don't look angry all the time (understandably!), and the lessening isolation has eased my depression. I'm sorry but I cannot see this as a bad decision.

I think if you did not feel a societal pressure or possible solution to your 11s, then you would accept them as is.

The problem is selfies, filters, photoshop etc making us all have a false image of what women look like. Everyone is busy trying to keep up with each other.

I grew up in the 80s. Trust me, people felt plenty bad about their looks back then, too!

Interesting that the OP didn't post this in the Beauty and Fashion forum where every post is about fillers, botox and other cosmetic procedures - the common consensus there is to go for it. Those strivers don't come onto the Off Topic forum - which is where this post sits.

Anonymous wrote:Botox in my 11's helped my RBF. People treat me better now that I don't look angry all the time (understandably!), and the lessening isolation has eased my depression. I'm sorry but I cannot see this as a bad decision.

You only see the 11's but we see everything else.

My observation is that at least some women with self esteem issues also churn through jobs and relationships and friends. I think if you feel inadequate or unhappy there is a tendency to think if I just change X, it will all be different. Get a better boyfriend, find a better career, change my nose, get big breasts, etc. A therapist would tell them they need to fix how they feel about themselves first. Does anyone remember the old show nip/tuck — this was sort of a recurrent theme on that show. Plastic surgeons are supposed to screen out people who are seeking procedures due to mental illness but some ignore this, and often it’s too fuzzy a line to discern.