Anonymous
Post 08/13/2023 23:26     Subject: UPS TO pay drivers $170,000
Anonymous wrote:This should be exhibit A whenever people try to tell you that unions are a bad thing.


+1 and don't complain about higher shipping costs when you order items online
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2023 23:25     Subject: UPS TO pay drivers $170,000
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ups-drivers-170000-pay-benefits-compensation/?ftag=YHFa5b931b

This is soo crazy!!!
I might quit my job and work for UPS. WOW
I don't understand why people are okay with this..




they destroy their bodies in order to get you your crappy amazon prime purchase two days after you drunkenly hit "buy now". they should be earning more.



Gardeners pulling weeds is also hard work. Groundskeeping at universities and golf courses is also hard work when it is 100F out. Hauling trash in sweltering heat is hard work. Being a chef working 13 hour days for $38,000 is also hard work.


You gonna pay all of them $170k too? Just because a job is hard work doesn’t mean it should be compensated with insane salaries. So many jobs that are hard work require no education or special skills. You’re just meat for the labor required. Overcompensation for those jobs is going to obliterate the economy once those labor costs get passed down to consumers. Say hello to permanently high inflation.


Well, it used to be that plenty of blue collar jobs earned you as much as some white collar jobs. After getting my engineering degree from a top university, I moved to the DMV and had to work my a$$ off. My slightly older Ford/GM family members earned more, could afford boats and RVs, had cottages, and had at least a week off in the summer while their work site retooled. The delta between white collar and blue collar jobs in terms of income is astounding -- as is the snobbery of the likes of white collar workers.


Many of them still do - we live in a million dollar house and the neighbor on one side is a plumber and the neighbor two doors down is a contractor. I don't think either of them has a college degree, just years of training in their trades. I don't know why you all think college degree is the only worthwhile education, on the job training is also a form of education. UPS drivers or trade, either way.



That's a stupid comparison though. A plumber has years of training. An electrician has years of training. A contractor probably has years of trading in the trades. Those ARE skilled jobs. You can't take any schmo off the street and run electrical wire in a building.

We are talking about jobs that require NO education and NO specialized skills that take years of training to learn. You drive a truck and lift heavy boxes. It doesn't take an apprenticeship like an electrician to become a journeyman. No one has problems paying a highly skilled peofessional blue collar job that requires years of training.

What's next, compensating the burger flipper or a dish washer at a very busy restaurant $170k because that is probably hard work too?
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2023 23:15     Subject: UPS TO pay drivers $170,000
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This should be exhibit A whenever people try to tell you that unions are a bad thing.


Come back when ups raises its delivery costs to reflect this generous compensation package. I doubt you’ll be touting how great this is when the t shirt gift to Timmy costs you 35.00 to ship.

NP but great, I'll buy local and ship it myself. Thx, lazy little b*.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2023 23:15     Subject: UPS TO pay drivers $170,000
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ups-drivers-170000-pay-benefits-compensation/?ftag=YHFa5b931b

This is soo crazy!!!
I might quit my job and work for UPS. WOW
I don't understand why people are okay with this..




they destroy their bodies in order to get you your crappy amazon prime purchase two days after you drunkenly hit "buy now". they should be earning more.



Gardeners pulling weeds is also hard work. Groundskeeping at universities and golf courses is also hard work when it is 100F out. Hauling trash in sweltering heat is hard work. Being a chef working 13 hour days for $38,000 is also hard work.


You gonna pay all of them $170k too? Just because a job is hard work doesn’t mean it should be compensated with insane salaries. So many jobs that are hard work require no education or special skills. You’re just meat for the labor required. Overcompensation for those jobs is going to obliterate the economy once those labor costs get passed down to consumers. Say hello to permanently high inflation.


Well, it used to be that plenty of blue collar jobs earned you as much as some white collar jobs. After getting my engineering degree from a top university, I moved to the DMV and had to work my a$$ off. My slightly older Ford/GM family members earned more, could afford boats and RVs, had cottages, and had at least a week off in the summer while their work site retooled. The delta between white collar and blue collar jobs in terms of income is astounding -- as is the snobbery of the likes of white collar workers.


Many of them still do - we live in a million dollar house and the neighbor on one side is a plumber and the neighbor two doors down is a contractor. I don't think either of them has a college degree, just years of training in their trades. I don't know why you all think college degree is the only worthwhile education, on the job training is also a form of education. UPS drivers or trade, either way.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2023 23:11     Subject: UPS TO pay drivers $170,000
Anonymous wrote:This should be exhibit A whenever people try to tell you that unions are a bad thing.


Come back when ups raises its delivery costs to reflect this generous compensation package. I doubt you’ll be touting how great this is when the t shirt gift to Timmy costs you 35.00 to ship.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2023 23:09     Subject: Re:UPS TO pay drivers $170,000
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It says "and benefits." The salary is in the low 100s.


My friends and I are just shocked and thinking, we should have worked for UPs.

Please go get a job as a UPS driver and come back in a few weeks.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2023 23:06     Subject: UPS TO pay drivers $170,000
Anonymous wrote:Glad they make good money so we don't need to worry about tips!


Who pays tips to UPS drivers?
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2023 23:05     Subject: UPS TO pay drivers $170,000
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ups-drivers-170000-pay-benefits-compensation/?ftag=YHFa5b931b

This is soo crazy!!!
I might quit my job and work for UPS. WOW
I don't understand why people are okay with this..




they destroy their bodies in order to get you your crappy amazon prime purchase two days after you drunkenly hit "buy now". they should be earning more.



Gardeners pulling weeds is also hard work. Groundskeeping at universities and golf courses is also hard work when it is 100F out. Hauling trash in sweltering heat is hard work. Being a chef working 13 hour days for $38,000 is also hard work.


You gonna pay all of them $170k too? Just because a job is hard work doesn’t mean it should be compensated with insane salaries. So many jobs that are hard work require no education or special skills. You’re just meat for the labor required. Overcompensation for those jobs is going to obliterate the economy once those labor costs get passed down to consumers. Say hello to permanently high inflation.


Well, it used to be that plenty of blue collar jobs earned you as much as some white collar jobs. After getting my engineering degree from a top university, I moved to the DMV and had to work my a$$ off. My slightly older Ford/GM family members earned more, could afford boats and RVs, had cottages, and had at least a week off in the summer while their work site retooled. The delta between white collar and blue collar jobs in terms of income is astounding -- as is the snobbery of the likes of white collar workers.


Yes, per uneducated men it is time we are put in our place, education is a scam, brute force physically (and socially and politically) is what matter, so even tough I am a door dash driver, give me the money! Why? Because I say so!
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2023 23:02     Subject: UPS TO pay drivers $170,000
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ups-drivers-170000-pay-benefits-compensation/?ftag=YHFa5b931b

This is soo crazy!!!
I might quit my job and work for UPS. WOW
I don't understand why people are okay with this..




they destroy their bodies in order to get you your crappy amazon prime purchase two days after you drunkenly hit "buy now". they should be earning more.



Gardeners pulling weeds is also hard work. Groundskeeping at universities and golf courses is also hard work when it is 100F out. Hauling trash in sweltering heat is hard work. Being a chef working 13 hour days for $38,000 is also hard work.


You gonna pay all of them $170k too? Just because a job is hard work doesn’t mean it should be compensated with insane salaries. So many jobs that are hard work require no education or special skills. You’re just meat for the labor required. Overcompensation for those jobs is going to obliterate the economy once those labor costs get passed down to consumers. Say hello to permanently high inflation.


Well, it used to be that plenty of blue collar jobs earned you as much as some white collar jobs. After getting my engineering degree from a top university, I moved to the DMV and had to work my a$$ off. My slightly older Ford/GM family members earned more, could afford boats and RVs, had cottages, and had at least a week off in the summer while their work site retooled. The delta between white collar and blue collar jobs in terms of income is astounding -- as is the snobbery of the likes of white collar workers.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2023 22:56     Subject: UPS TO pay drivers $170,000
Glad they make good money so we don't need to worry about tips!
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2023 22:54     Subject: UPS TO pay drivers $170,000
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ups-drivers-170000-pay-benefits-compensation/?ftag=YHFa5b931b

This is soo crazy!!!
I might quit my job and work for UPS. WOW
I don't understand why people are okay with this..




they destroy their bodies in order to get you your crappy amazon prime purchase two days after you drunkenly hit "buy now". they should be earning more.



Gardeners pulling weeds is also hard work. Groundskeeping at universities and golf courses is also hard work when it is 100F out. Hauling trash in sweltering heat is hard work. Being a chef working 13 hour days for $38,000 is also hard work.


You gonna pay all of them $170k too? Just because a job is hard work doesn’t mean it should be compensated with insane salaries. So many jobs that are hard work require no education or special skills. You’re just meat for the labor required. Overcompensation for those jobs is going to obliterate the economy once those labor costs get passed down to consumers. Say hello to permanently high inflation.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2023 22:52     Subject: Re:UPS TO pay drivers $170,000
Anonymous wrote:Just another example of massively overpaying for unskilled and uneducated labor. The results will be predictable, which are to accelerate the use of automation as much as possible. It’s only a matter of time before they overcompensate themselves out of existence. Why would anyone with an education and skills accept a lower salary than a UPS truck driver? Is everyone will be asking for higher wages, which in the end causes a whole bunch of wage driven inflation. The end result is that UPS drivers get nowhere in terms of real purchasing power as where they were before, and all the country did after terrible wage inflation is just ruin everyone’s life savings in the process.

Companies will also start pulling out of the US as labor becomes massively overcompensated for these simple jobs.


+1
With caveat that I think those of us with education and skills will not see the higher wages--our jobs will be eliminated or office jobs will begin to be seen as women's work and will pay accordingly--a lot of the unskilled labor will be seen as man's work and they will be paid accordingly.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2023 22:48     Subject: Re:UPS TO pay drivers $170,000
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It says "and benefits." The salary is in the low 100s.


This! They are not getting $170k in salary. They are getting between $25 and $49 an hour, plus benefits.


It doesn’t matter. To a business, it all sums up to labor costs, period.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2023 22:48     Subject: UPS TO pay drivers $170,000
I’ve known our his driver for over 10 years. He works his an off and is awesome. He’s my age, almost 50, and a grandpa. He deserves it!
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2023 22:47     Subject: Re:UPS TO pay drivers $170,000
Just another example of massively overpaying for unskilled and uneducated labor. The results will be predictable, which are to accelerate the use of automation as much as possible. It’s only a matter of time before they overcompensate themselves out of existence. Why would anyone with an education and skills accept a lower salary than a UPS truck driver? Is everyone will be asking for higher wages, which in the end causes a whole bunch of wage driven inflation. The end result is that UPS drivers get nowhere in terms of real purchasing power as where they were before, and all the country did after terrible wage inflation is just ruin everyone’s life savings in the process.

Companies will also start pulling out of the US as labor becomes massively overcompensated for these simple jobs.