Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 08:04     Subject: The MCEA is just as much to blame for the PBHS principal situation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It would be super cool if we could avoid rehashing the covid debate in this thread. Whether you agree or not with schools having been virtual, that's not this discussion.

This discussion is whether MCEA did its due diligence to members who reported sexual harassment and abuse at FMS.

Does anyone on this thread actually know what MCEA did, and whether there were actions they could have taken and did not?

This is an honest question, by the way. Does a union have any power here?


It’d be amazing in general if we could all move on from the covid debate. However, the people mentioned above refuse to. It’s gonna be 2067 and they will mention their kids aren’t successful bc of 2020. It’s 2023. Time to move on. You have a PHD and your 15 year old can’t read, but it’s the schools fault for something that happened three years ago. Sure.


You seem to be one of the people who can't move on.


DP, but that’s what you took from that? Wow.


Here is someone else who can't move on.


Lol, another poster… get a life. You obviously don’t have one.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 08:01     Subject: The MCEA is just as much to blame for the PBHS principal situation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It would be super cool if we could avoid rehashing the covid debate in this thread. Whether you agree or not with schools having been virtual, that's not this discussion.

This discussion is whether MCEA did its due diligence to members who reported sexual harassment and abuse at FMS.

Does anyone on this thread actually know what MCEA did, and whether there were actions they could have taken and did not?

This is an honest question, by the way. Does a union have any power here?


Of course they have power. No, they didn’t have legal authority to block it, but they hold power and influence in the process that established him as principal. For instance, if MCPS admin wasn’t being responsive to their concerns, why didn’t they raise them to the Board before they appointed him principal? That would obviously be difficult/risky for the offended teachers to do themselves, which is why the union should have supported them.



Don’t know the actual answer, but our building MCEA rep is one of the many teachers that were able to leave the school and Ben Israel, the cluster a Uniserv director for MCEA ended his tenure before June 27 when B was appointed to PB. We were all naively under the impression he would get a cushy central office job and it would be announced on July 1 to not cause too much publicity. Boy, we’re we wrong!
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 07:37     Subject: The MCEA is just as much to blame for the PBHS principal situation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It would be super cool if we could avoid rehashing the covid debate in this thread. Whether you agree or not with schools having been virtual, that's not this discussion.

This discussion is whether MCEA did its due diligence to members who reported sexual harassment and abuse at FMS.

Does anyone on this thread actually know what MCEA did, and whether there were actions they could have taken and did not?

This is an honest question, by the way. Does a union have any power here?


It’d be amazing in general if we could all move on from the covid debate. However, the people mentioned above refuse to. It’s gonna be 2067 and they will mention their kids aren’t successful bc of 2020. It’s 2023. Time to move on. You have a PHD and your 15 year old can’t read, but it’s the schools fault for something that happened three years ago. Sure.


You seem to be one of the people who can't move on.


DP, but that’s what you took from that? Wow.


Here is someone else who can't move on.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 07:29     Subject: The MCEA is just as much to blame for the PBHS principal situation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It would be super cool if we could avoid rehashing the covid debate in this thread. Whether you agree or not with schools having been virtual, that's not this discussion.

This discussion is whether MCEA did its due diligence to members who reported sexual harassment and abuse at FMS.

Does anyone on this thread actually know what MCEA did, and whether there were actions they could have taken and did not?

This is an honest question, by the way. Does a union have any power here?


It’d be amazing in general if we could all move on from the covid debate. However, the people mentioned above refuse to. It’s gonna be 2067 and they will mention their kids aren’t successful bc of 2020. It’s 2023. Time to move on. You have a PHD and your 15 year old can’t read, but it’s the schools fault for something that happened three years ago. Sure.


You seem to be one of the people who can't move on.


DP, but that’s what you took from that? Wow.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 07:18     Subject: The MCEA is just as much to blame for the PBHS principal situation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It would be super cool if we could avoid rehashing the covid debate in this thread. Whether you agree or not with schools having been virtual, that's not this discussion.

This discussion is whether MCEA did its due diligence to members who reported sexual harassment and abuse at FMS.

Does anyone on this thread actually know what MCEA did, and whether there were actions they could have taken and did not?

This is an honest question, by the way. Does a union have any power here?


It’d be amazing in general if we could all move on from the covid debate. However, the people mentioned above refuse to. It’s gonna be 2067 and they will mention their kids aren’t successful bc of 2020. It’s 2023. Time to move on. You have a PHD and your 15 year old can’t read, but it’s the schools fault for something that happened three years ago. Sure.


You seem to be one of the people who can't move on.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 05:38     Subject: The MCEA is just as much to blame for the PBHS principal situation
Anonymous wrote:It would be super cool if we could avoid rehashing the covid debate in this thread. Whether you agree or not with schools having been virtual, that's not this discussion.

This discussion is whether MCEA did its due diligence to members who reported sexual harassment and abuse at FMS.

Does anyone on this thread actually know what MCEA did, and whether there were actions they could have taken and did not?

This is an honest question, by the way. Does a union have any power here?


It’d be amazing in general if we could all move on from the covid debate. However, the people mentioned above refuse to. It’s gonna be 2067 and they will mention their kids aren’t successful bc of 2020. It’s 2023. Time to move on. You have a PHD and your 15 year old can’t read, but it’s the schools fault for something that happened three years ago. Sure.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 04:59     Subject: The MCEA is just as much to blame for the PBHS principal situation
Anonymous wrote:It would be super cool if we could avoid rehashing the covid debate in this thread. Whether you agree or not with schools having been virtual, that's not this discussion.

This discussion is whether MCEA did its due diligence to members who reported sexual harassment and abuse at FMS.

Does anyone on this thread actually know what MCEA did, and whether there were actions they could have taken and did not?

This is an honest question, by the way. Does a union have any power here?


Of course they have power. No, they didn’t have legal authority to block it, but they hold power and influence in the process that established him as principal. For instance, if MCPS admin wasn’t being responsive to their concerns, why didn’t they raise them to the Board before they appointed him principal? That would obviously be difficult/risky for the offended teachers to do themselves, which is why the union should have supported them.
Anonymous
Post 08/16/2023 03:37     Subject: The MCEA is just as much to blame for the PBHS principal situation
It would be super cool if we could avoid rehashing the covid debate in this thread. Whether you agree or not with schools having been virtual, that's not this discussion.

This discussion is whether MCEA did its due diligence to members who reported sexual harassment and abuse at FMS.

Does anyone on this thread actually know what MCEA did, and whether there were actions they could have taken and did not?

This is an honest question, by the way. Does a union have any power here?
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2023 20:39     Subject: The MCEA is just as much to blame for the PBHS principal situation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, MCEA also kept school closed for two years, so there's that.


LOL!


Jesus. Even if you counted school buildings (no, schools were never closed, just bc you moronically wish something was true doesn’t make it so), not two years. Less than a year and a half. Sorry you needed babysitting longer than that.


Oh, only a year and a half. That makes it completely different...


Just admit you didn’t do your job as a parent while expecting everyone else to do the heavy lifting. The county is over the dawns, the reesmans, the Margerys of the world.


I meant to respond to this. +1000
Those people are utter morons. So done with their incessant griping.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2023 20:38     Subject: Re:The MCEA is just as much to blame for the PBHS principal situation
+1000
Utter morons. The whole lot of them.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2023 19:42     Subject: The MCEA is just as much to blame for the PBHS principal situation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, MCEA also kept school closed for two years, so there's that.


LOL!


Jesus. Even if you counted school buildings (no, schools were never closed, just bc you moronically wish something was true doesn’t make it so), not two years. Less than a year and a half. Sorry you needed babysitting longer than that.


Oh, only a year and a half. That makes it completely different...


Just admit you didn’t do your job as a parent while expecting everyone else to do the heavy lifting. The county is over the dawns, the reesmans, the Margerys of the world.
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2023 19:35     Subject: The MCEA is just as much to blame for the PBHS principal situation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, MCEA also kept school closed for two years, so there's that.


LOL!


Jesus. Even if you counted school buildings (no, schools were never closed, just bc you moronically wish something was true doesn’t make it so), not two years. Less than a year and a half. Sorry you needed babysitting longer than that.


Oh, only a year and a half. That makes it completely different...
Anonymous
Post 08/15/2023 19:29     Subject: The MCEA is just as much to blame for the PBHS principal situation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, MCEA also kept school closed for two years, so there's that.


LOL!


Jesus. Even if you counted school buildings (no, schools were never closed, just bc you moronically wish something was true doesn’t make it so), not two years. Less than a year and a half. Sorry you needed babysitting longer than that.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2023 23:38     Subject: The MCEA is just as much to blame for the PBHS principal situation
Anonymous wrote:Well, MCEA also kept school closed for two years, so there's that.


When was school closed two years?
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2023 23:37     Subject: The MCEA is just as much to blame for the PBHS principal situation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Same here. Once a new teacher needs help with crime and violence in the classroom they are told to report it. When they report it as instructed they are targeted as a whistler who can't be trusted. Then you will be harassed and non renewed. If you don't resign they lie lie lie to the unemployment office. To block your ui benefits. One last bullying g harassment when you just lost your job.

Just grab a couple of slices of pizza because they throw themselves a pizza party at mcea office on teacher nonrenewal day. Seems fun for the fat cats. Having parties with our dues then making our lives difficult when we report crime. Geesh.


I’ll take things that never happened for 1000.


+1 Have never heard of a teacher no renewal day and I mentor new teachers —a couple of whom over the years have not earned tenure at the end of their first cycle.