Anonymous
08/12/2023 11:44
Subject: Who are the fools paying $100,000 for a wagoner?
Anonymous wrote:
I don't like large cars of any brand. They always look ugly.
But it's really hard to find a small luxury vehicle.
We all should be driving electric cars. No one should buy that beast of a gas guzzling car. Or any gas-powered car.
Buy electric cars, or none at all.
Our planet is becoming uninhabitable. Floods, fires, tornadoes, hurricanes, mudslides -- all are becoming more severe and more devastating. Did you lose your power last week? If you don't have a generator, better get one.
We must end our dependence on fossil fuels yesterday, or today at the very latest.
If you've got $100K to spend on a car, buy an electric vehicle. Please.
Anonymous
08/12/2023 11:41
Subject: Who are the fools paying $100,000 for a wagoner?
OP, it’s the same fools buying all the large SUVs. More money than brains, and totally selfish.
Anonymous
08/12/2023 11:36
Subject: Who are the fools paying $100,000 for a wagoner?
Anonymous wrote:
I don't like large cars of any brand. They always look ugly.
But it's really hard to find a small luxury vehicle.
What? No it isn’t.
Anonymous
08/12/2023 11:20
Subject: Who are the fools paying $100,000 for a wagoner?
I don't like large cars of any brand. They always look ugly.
But it's really hard to find a small luxury vehicle.
Anonymous
08/12/2023 11:16
Subject: Who are the fools paying $100,000 for a wagoner?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just another incredibly stupid, massively oversized vehicle that is killing the planet, killing people, causing traffic, and drives terribly. Really, really stupid car, and you a premium to drive that craptacular POS.
Might be true if just driving one or two people to the store, but most huge SUVs are hauling a lot of folks or animals or both. Otherwise would need multiple vehicles.
That’s such a stupid myth. 99% of the idiots driving these massively stupid cars go to the grocery store and target between their soccer practices and going to their office jobs. The car industry sells propaganda to idiot Americans to convince them they need these ridiculously stupid vehicles because the profit margins are better. That’s because they’re exempt from regulations and additional safety testing since they’re classified as ‘light trucks’. A portion of these are sold to idiots in the burbs who drive them all around cities and take up way more space than is needed. A minivan or a station wagon is way, way more practical if you need to haul stuff or a family anyway.
The density of large vehicles in cities is far less than in the suburbs, exurbs, and rural areas. I know because I’m in all 4 routinely.
The Wagoneer competes with the Lexus570/Land Cruiser, FJ Cruiser, Sequoia, Defender set. They are niche, high priced products with vintage appeal. They don’t belong in the city. I have a late model Land Cruiser that stays in the country full time. I see some Defenders in Georgetown (the smallest of my list). But I rarely see the others in the city. I also rarely see Tahoes and Suburbans in the city.
But, there are a ton of people who use the capacity of minivan but don’t want a minivan. The Tahoe/Suburban makes a lot of sense for families with 2-3 kids in multiple activities that may also go camping, or drive cub scouts around etc. most other SUVs you can either carry stuff or you can carry people… you can’t carry both.
Just because that’s not your lifestyle doesn’t make it “bad”. I know a ton of people who use the size of their large SUVs… just bc you see them at target doesn’t mean they don’t drive to a lake with all their fishing gear, a cooler on their hitch shelf, and 5 people to go fishing for a weekend. They may drive a car pool to school 3 days a week.
It actually does make it bad. Denying it doesn’t change that.
Anonymous
08/11/2023 20:45
Subject: Who are the fools paying $100,000 for a wagoner?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just another incredibly stupid, massively oversized vehicle that is killing the planet, killing people, causing traffic, and drives terribly. Really, really stupid car, and you a premium to drive that craptacular POS.
Might be true if just driving one or two people to the store, but most huge SUVs are hauling a lot of folks or animals or both. Otherwise would need multiple vehicles.
That’s such a stupid myth. 99% of the idiots driving these massively stupid cars go to the grocery store and target between their soccer practices and going to their office jobs. The car industry sells propaganda to idiot Americans to convince them they need these ridiculously stupid vehicles because the profit margins are better. That’s because they’re exempt from regulations and additional safety testing since they’re classified as ‘light trucks’. A portion of these are sold to idiots in the burbs who drive them all around cities and take up way more space than is needed. A minivan or a station wagon is way, way more practical if you need to haul stuff or a family anyway.
The density of large vehicles in cities is far less than in the suburbs, exurbs, and rural areas. I know because I’m in all 4 routinely.
The Wagoneer competes with the Lexus570/Land Cruiser, FJ Cruiser, Sequoia, Defender set. They are niche, high priced products with vintage appeal. They don’t belong in the city. I have a late model Land Cruiser that stays in the country full time. I see some Defenders in Georgetown (the smallest of my list). But I rarely see the others in the city. I also rarely see Tahoes and Suburbans in the city.
But, there are a ton of people who use the capacity of minivan but don’t want a minivan. The Tahoe/Suburban makes a lot of sense for families with 2-3 kids in multiple activities that may also go camping, or drive cub scouts around etc. most other SUVs you can either carry stuff or you can carry people… you can’t carry both.
Just because that’s not your lifestyle doesn’t make it “bad”. I know a ton of people who use the size of their large SUVs… just bc you see them at target doesn’t mean they don’t drive to a lake with all their fishing gear, a cooler on their hitch shelf, and 5 people to go fishing for a weekend. They may drive a car pool to school 3 days a week.
Anonymous
08/11/2023 20:07
Subject: Re:Who are the fools paying $100,000 for a wagoner?
Anonymous wrote:The Broncos are the worst and a man should never drive a powder blue Bronco. I said what I said.
At least these men didn’t spend $100k on a Bronco.
Anonymous
08/11/2023 19:40
Subject: Who are the fools paying $100,000 for a wagoner?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just another incredibly stupid, massively oversized vehicle that is killing the planet, killing people, causing traffic, and drives terribly. Really, really stupid car, and you a premium to drive that craptacular POS.
Might be true if just driving one or two people to the store, but most huge SUVs are hauling a lot of folks or animals or both. Otherwise would need multiple vehicles.
That’s such a stupid myth. 99% of the idiots driving these massively stupid cars go to the grocery store and target between their soccer practices and going to their office jobs. The car industry sells propaganda to idiot Americans to convince them they need these ridiculously stupid vehicles because the profit margins are better. That’s because they’re exempt from regulations and additional safety testing since they’re classified as ‘light trucks’. A portion of these are sold to idiots in the burbs who drive them all around cities and take up way more space than is needed. A minivan or a station wagon is way, way more practical if you need to haul stuff or a family anyway.
Anonymous
08/11/2023 19:37
Subject: Re:Who are the fools paying $100,000 for a wagoner?
The Broncos are the worst and a man should never drive a powder blue Bronco. I said what I said.
Anonymous
08/11/2023 19:22
Subject: Who are the fools paying $100,000 for a wagoner?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just another incredibly stupid, massively oversized vehicle that is killing the planet, killing people, causing traffic, and drives terribly. Really, really stupid car, and you a premium to drive that craptacular POS.
I had no idea how much these cars cost and now that I know it's twice what our down payment on our house was, I hate those people even more.
They should have to pay some kind of special tax to be allowed to drive those things around. They are so dangerous. I have a 6 year old and when I cross streets with her I always walk between her and traffic. When MY head doesn't even clear the front grill on a vehicle, I really question why anyone should be allowed to drive a private vehicle like that in areas where pedestrians are allowed to be (I get that semi trucks are built like this too but you need a special license to drive one and they are performing an essential service, unlike these stupid, stupid vehicles).
I thought that they had to pay a gas guzzler tax--or was that repealed ?
Anonymous
08/11/2023 19:21
Subject: Who are the fools paying $100,000 for a wagoner?
Anonymous wrote:Just another incredibly stupid, massively oversized vehicle that is killing the planet, killing people, causing traffic, and drives terribly. Really, really stupid car, and you a premium to drive that craptacular POS.
Might be true if just driving one or two people to the store, but most huge SUVs are hauling a lot of folks or animals or both. Otherwise would need multiple vehicles.
Anonymous
08/11/2023 19:18
Subject: Who are the fools paying $100,000 for a wagoner?
Anonymous wrote:Just another incredibly stupid, massively oversized vehicle that is killing the planet, killing people, causing traffic, and drives terribly. Really, really stupid car, and you a premium to drive that craptacular POS.
I had no idea how much these cars cost and now that I know it's twice what our down payment on our house was, I hate those people even more.
They should have to pay some kind of special tax to be allowed to drive those things around. They are so dangerous. I have a 6 year old and when I cross streets with her I always walk between her and traffic. When MY head doesn't even clear the front grill on a vehicle, I really question why anyone should be allowed to drive a private vehicle like that in areas where pedestrians are allowed to be (I get that semi trucks are built like this too but you need a special license to drive one and they are performing an essential service, unlike these stupid, stupid vehicles).
Anonymous
08/11/2023 19:08
Subject: Who are the fools paying $100,000 for a wagoner?
Anonymous wrote:Ugliest car ever. Is it just a flex or does anyone like them?
https://www.dulleschryslerdodgejeep.com/new-inventory/index.htm?ddcref=fluency&fca_adid=660692216611&fca_agid=jeepb_nodlr_rtntn_am_i_getting_a_deal_(deals_offers_&fca_campaign=m4_-_am_i_getting_a_deal_-_jeep_new_a&fca_campaign_type=google&fca_channel=paidsearch&fca_digadcid=615069&fca_digadprov=dealerdotcom&fca_keyword=jeep%20offer&fca_mm=dealm&gbraid=0AAAAABJIX88Zwo3-6qFmtuNMfPoxipCLE&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI04zn_ujSgAMVw__jBx1KLAaNEAAYAyAAEgJgofD_BwE&make=Jeep&tcdadid=660692216611&tcdcmpid=615069&tcdkwid=348998951&model=Grand%20Wagoneer
What car do you drive?
Anonymous
08/11/2023 16:41
Subject: Who are the fools paying $100,000 for a wagoner?
Just another incredibly stupid, massively oversized vehicle that is killing the planet, killing people, causing traffic, and drives terribly. Really, really stupid car, and you a premium to drive that craptacular POS.
Anonymous
08/11/2023 13:04
Subject: Re:Who are the fools paying $100,000 for a wagoner?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a grand wagoneer and love it.
Feel free to stop me and tell me how stupid I am.
What do you love about it vs a Mercedes GLS, bmw x7, even a Range Rover?
Isn't Wagoneer in a different size class than all of these?
It's competing with Suburban, Tahoe, Escalade, etc.