Anonymous
07/31/2023 15:18
Subject: Harvard Business School requirements?
Being liking to spend $50k for GMAT prep should be Case Number 1 for poor business decision making for a future business school student.
Anonymous
07/31/2023 14:14
Subject: Harvard Business School requirements?
Be really good looking, charismatic, a leader, and popular. Is he CEO material?
Anonymous
07/31/2023 14:10
Subject: Harvard Business School requirements?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:contrary to all these other posts I’ll actually try to answer OPs question
they will be a strong candidate with the gpa job and presumably test score
however, FAANG CS applicants are a dime a dozen and will be competing for spots with more interesting applicants from places like Coke or even non-profits. Just cause the CS kid at Apple is likely pulling in $200k+/- straight out of undergrad doesn’t mean the world is enamored with these kids. Balance expectations and go for it
What an obnoxious response--and then you post silly, childish gibberish as advice ?
Your response reveals a lack of knowledge & understanding about the application process for elite MBA programs.
NP. What's inaccurate? Pretty spot on to me.
LOL ! How does this rant help OP ?
Anonymous
07/31/2023 13:44
Subject: Harvard Business School requirements?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:contrary to all these other posts I’ll actually try to answer OPs question
they will be a strong candidate with the gpa job and presumably test score
however, FAANG CS applicants are a dime a dozen and will be competing for spots with more interesting applicants from places like Coke or even non-profits. Just cause the CS kid at Apple is likely pulling in $200k+/- straight out of undergrad doesn’t mean the world is enamored with these kids. Balance expectations and go for it
What an obnoxious response--and then you post silly, childish gibberish as advice ?
Your response reveals a lack of knowledge & understanding about the application process for elite MBA programs.
NP. What's inaccurate? Pretty spot on to me.
+1
Anonymous
07/31/2023 13:16
Subject: Harvard Business School requirements?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:$50k??????
There’s got to be a better use of that money.
This. If you are going to pay 50k for GMAT prep, maybe you don't have the business sense to attend Harvard Business School.
-- from someone who taught SAT and LSAT for Kaplan (although, admittedly, not GMAT).
+1
Absolutely do not spend that. Completely idiotic. Perfect scores on that are a dime a dozen. Take a regular Kaplan class and leave it at that. Also, what does he want to do after business school? He may be better just staying where he is instead of losing 2 years and paying for school.
I do not understand why people make comments like this. If OP has the money to do it, why not? There are many parents that drop 20K for SAT prep so that their kids can get perfect scores on the SAT.
Because I did hiring at a top nyc investment bank and kids like this were weeded out in the first round, if they even made it to that. He’s looking at this completely wrong (and weird how involved his mother is). We wanted the kids that had a story for why he/she went to b school and what they wanted to do whey got out. We didn’t care about standardized test scores and neither does admissions. We cared about kids who were strategic and smart w/ numbers. The kid who came in w/ a story of the quants model he did and then invested his first year or signing bonus into bc he believed in it that much. That’s who we hired. Not the kid who was so focused on ticking boxes and had zero confidence or ability to get somewhere on his own that he fell for the knob who’d take $50k and teach him what he should be able to teach himself.
Anonymous
07/31/2023 12:25
Subject: Harvard Business School requirements?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:contrary to all these other posts I’ll actually try to answer OPs question
they will be a strong candidate with the gpa job and presumably test score
however, FAANG CS applicants are a dime a dozen and will be competing for spots with more interesting applicants from places like Coke or even non-profits. Just cause the CS kid at Apple is likely pulling in $200k+/- straight out of undergrad doesn’t mean the world is enamored with these kids. Balance expectations and go for it
What an obnoxious response--and then you post silly, childish gibberish as advice ?
Your response reveals a lack of knowledge & understanding about the application process for elite MBA programs.
NP. What's inaccurate? Pretty spot on to me.
Anonymous
07/31/2023 12:20
Subject: Harvard Business School requirements?
Anonymous wrote:contrary to all these other posts I’ll actually try to answer OPs question
they will be a strong candidate with the gpa job and presumably test score
however, FAANG CS applicants are a dime a dozen and will be competing for spots with more interesting applicants from places like Coke or even non-profits. Just cause the CS kid at Apple is likely pulling in $200k+/- straight out of undergrad doesn’t mean the world is enamored with these kids. Balance expectations and go for it
What an obnoxious response--and then you post silly, childish gibberish as advice ?
Your response reveals a lack of knowledge & understanding about the application process for elite MBA programs.
Anonymous
07/31/2023 12:12
Subject: Harvard Business School requirements?
Anonymous wrote:My DS graduated from GMU in '21 with a degree in CS and a 3.9 GPA and he is currently working for Apple. He is interested in getting an MBA from a good school. He is looking at HBS but he wonders about his chance. He is setting aside about 50K to work with a GMAT expert in preparing for the GMAT. This expert has helped five candidates to score 750+ on the GMAT.
What else is HBS looking for besides GPA and GMAT score? TIA
They are looking for interesting people.
Mid-20s man with a CS degree, working at a company like Apple, and with a good GMAT/GPA? No offense, but yawn. That type of applicant is a dime a dozen! What does your son envision doing with his MBA? He needs to be able to articulate something better than "interested in getting an MBA from a good school" (your words).
Anonymous
07/31/2023 12:08
Subject: Harvard Business School requirements?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DS graduated from GMU in '21 with a degree in CS and a 3.9 GPA and he is currently working for Apple. He is interested in getting an MBA from a good school. He is looking at HBS but he wonders about his chance. He is setting aside about 50K to work with a GMAT expert in preparing for the GMAT. This expert has helped five candidates to score 750+ on the GMAT.
What else is HBS looking for besides GPA and GMAT score? TIA
Maybe budget a maximum of $8,000 for GMAT prep (individual tutoring) and a similar amount (up to $10,000) for hiring a consultant (although consultants will accept more and some do pay $15,000).
Nevertheless, it is important to understand that a perfect GMAT score and an impressive undergraduate GPA along with stellar work experience will not assure one of admission to Harvard Business School or to Stanford's Graduate School of Business.
Most consider the top 3 MBA programs to be Harvard, Stanford, and Wharton (U Penn). Close behind them are Chicago-Booth and Northwestern-Kellogg along with MIT-Sloan.
Important question: Why does your son want to earn an MBA ? Must express a convincing reason in his application essay.
Since his standard is "good school", here is a list of good MBA programs to consider:
Harvard
Stanford GSB
U Penn-Wharton
Chicago-Booth
Northwestern-Kellogg
MIT-Sloan
Columbia (strong in finance)
NYU-Stern (especially strong for finance)
Next group:
UCal-Berkeley
Dartmouth-Tuck
Virginia-Darden
Michigan-Ross
Yale-SOM
Duke-Fuqua
Carnegie Mellon University (CMU-Tepper for Information Systems)
The total cost of a full-time 2 year MBA program exceeds $200,000 at the top 10 MBA programs. Many programs offer merit scholarship grant money.
I went to one of these schools and was accepted at 4 others, albeit a long time ago. What matters today is GMATs (mine were in the 750 range), grades (mine were actually not that great), work experience (3-5 years is the norm), and diversity. All the schools are looking for diverse classes. Being a woman used to be a real help, but the applicant pools have gotten more balanced now.
OP, HBS is fine but your DC needs to look at what they want to do and what schools provide that path. If they want to stay in tech, Stanford may be better. If they want to do private equity then Wharton may be better. Your DC needs to do the research and own this process.
And paying $50k for GMAT prep is absolutely nuts. Or are you trying to pull a varsity blues stunt and pay someone to take the test for your DC?
Anonymous
07/31/2023 12:01
Subject: Harvard Business School requirements?
contrary to all these other posts I’ll actually try to answer OPs question
they will be a strong candidate with the gpa job and presumably test score
however, FAANG CS applicants are a dime a dozen and will be competing for spots with more interesting applicants from places like Coke or even non-profits. Just cause the CS kid at Apple is likely pulling in $200k+/- straight out of undergrad doesn’t mean the world is enamored with these kids. Balance expectations and go for it
they will be a strong candidate with the gpa job and presumably test score
however, FAANG CS applicants are a dime a dozen and will be competing for spots with more interesting applicants from places like Coke or even non-profits. Just cause the CS kid at Apple is likely pulling in $200k+/- straight out of undergrad doesn’t mean the world is enamored with these kids. Balance expectations and go for it
Anonymous
07/31/2023 11:58
Subject: Re:Harvard Business School requirements?
And, in my opinion--even without knowing more details, an MBA is a wise move for someone in their twenties with at least two years of post-undergraduate full-time work experience.
Anonymous
07/31/2023 11:48
Subject: Harvard Business School requirements?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DS graduated from GMU in '21 with a degree in CS and a 3.9 GPA and he is currently working for Apple. He is interested in getting an MBA from a good school. He is looking at HBS but he wonders about his chance. He is setting aside about 50K to work with a GMAT expert in preparing for the GMAT. This expert has helped five candidates to score 750+ on the GMAT.
What else is HBS looking for besides GPA and GMAT score? TIA
Maybe budget a maximum of $8,000 for GMAT prep (individual tutoring) and a similar amount (up to $10,000) for hiring a consultant (although consultants will accept more and some do pay $15,000).
Nevertheless, it is important to understand that a perfect GMAT score and an impressive undergraduate GPA along with stellar work experience will not assure one of admission to Harvard Business School or to Stanford's Graduate School of Business.
Most consider the top 3 MBA programs to be Harvard, Stanford, and Wharton (U Penn). Close behind them are Chicago-Booth and Northwestern-Kellogg along with MIT-Sloan.
Important question: Why does your son want to earn an MBA ? Must express a convincing reason in his application essay.
Since his standard is "good school", here is a list of good MBA programs to consider:
Harvard
Stanford GSB
U Penn-Wharton
Chicago-Booth
Northwestern-Kellogg
MIT-Sloan
Columbia (strong in finance)
NYU-Stern (especially strong for finance)
Next group:
UCal-Berkeley
Dartmouth-Tuck
Virginia-Darden
Michigan-Ross
Yale-SOM
Duke-Fuqua
Carnegie Mellon University (CMU-Tepper for Information Systems)
The total cost of a full-time 2 year MBA program exceeds $200,000 at the top 10 MBA programs. Many programs offer merit scholarship grant money.
As another poster noted, the total cost of earning a full-time 2 year MBA degree can be $500,000 when 2 years of lost wages are added to the cost. This total COA can be lowered by scholarship grant money and earnings from the summer between one's first & second year of the MBA program.
Starting salaries for recent MBA students from the top 7 MBA programs are in the range of $165,000 to $175,000 with an additional signing bonus of $30,000 to $35,000.
Anonymous
07/31/2023 11:46
Subject: Harvard Business School requirements?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He should have gone to a better college. Do not spend $50k on a pipe dream. Call HBS and ask if they have ever accepted someone from GMU.
FWIW, my CIO graduated from Northern Illinois University in CS and he attended HBS for his MBA. If you do not have anything to contribute, please STFU.
I did my undergrad at a school with terrible academic reputation (Lousiville) and had acceptances for MBA programs at HBS, Wharton, and Sloan.
Anonymous
07/31/2023 11:39
Subject: Harvard Business School requirements?
Anonymous wrote:My DS graduated from GMU in '21 with a degree in CS and a 3.9 GPA and he is currently working for Apple. He is interested in getting an MBA from a good school. He is looking at HBS but he wonders about his chance. He is setting aside about 50K to work with a GMAT expert in preparing for the GMAT. This expert has helped five candidates to score 750+ on the GMAT.
What else is HBS looking for besides GPA and GMAT score? TIA
Maybe budget a maximum of $8,000 for GMAT prep (individual tutoring) and a similar amount (up to $10,000) for hiring a consultant (although consultants will accept more and some do pay $15,000).
Nevertheless, it is important to understand that a perfect GMAT score and an impressive undergraduate GPA along with stellar work experience will not assure one of admission to Harvard Business School or to Stanford's Graduate School of Business.
Most consider the top 3 MBA programs to be Harvard, Stanford, and Wharton (U Penn). Close behind them are Chicago-Booth and Northwestern-Kellogg along with MIT-Sloan.
Important question: Why does your son want to earn an MBA ? Must express a convincing reason in his application essay.
Since his standard is "good school", here is a list of good MBA programs to consider:
Harvard
Stanford GSB
U Penn-Wharton
Chicago-Booth
Northwestern-Kellogg
MIT-Sloan
Columbia (strong in finance)
NYU-Stern (especially strong for finance)
Next group:
UCal-Berkeley
Dartmouth-Tuck
Virginia-Darden
Michigan-Ross
Yale-SOM
Duke-Fuqua
Carnegie Mellon University (CMU-Tepper for Information Systems)
The total cost of a full-time 2 year MBA program exceeds $200,000 at the top 10 MBA programs. Many programs offer merit scholarship grant money.
Anonymous
07/31/2023 11:20
Subject: Harvard Business School requirements?
Anonymous wrote:He should have gone to a better college. Do not spend $50k on a pipe dream. Call HBS and ask if they have ever accepted someone from GMU.
FWIW, my CIO graduated from Northern Illinois University in CS and he attended HBS for his MBA. If you do not have anything to contribute, please STFU.