Anonymous wrote:Alums like me sit back and smile at these conversations which have been going on for generations. You either love ND or hate it. And both fuel donations, the endowment and things like the exclusive NBC contract. Thanks to you, ND is always in clover.

Sure love your school. But be less d-bag about it. Seems to be impossible.

Alums like me sit back and smile at these conversations which have been going on for generations. You either love ND or hate it. And both fuel donations, the endowment and things like the exclusive NBC contract. Thanks to you, ND is always in clover.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Catholic with degrees from 2 Catholic universities (neither of which I attended BECAUSE they were Catholic), it seems like non-Catholics often overestimate the cohesion & exclusivity among Catholics. Yes, there are few extremist factions within Catholicism, but at ND, BC, Villanova, etc there are no secret handshakes or special privileges. In fact, anybody who would try to establish something like that would be scorned.

Also I Catholic with a degree from a Catholic college, and kids in Catholic schools, and while I don't disagree with what pp says, I don't think it can go with out saying that ND and Villanova are much more traditional Catholic than Georgetown and BC. My own kid has toured and will apply to several Jesuit colleges and zero non-Jesuit colleges.
But if OP's kid feels a connection with ND, then good for both of them.

Georgetown is barely Catholic. They have managed to remove many of the symbols of Catholicism and if they are still there, they apologize about it. BC not so much. My son applied to both BC and ND, got into both, and for obvious reasons is attending ND. He didn't like the Georgetown campus or vibe at all. He would have happily attended BC if he didn't get into ND.

And yes, football just might have been one factor that enticed him to go to the middle of nowhere for school. Football weekends are the best. That plus the program he was in and the sense of family the school exudes. It is just an amazing place.

They just can't help themselves. Proving every stereotype of an ND blowhard. Normal alums must be so proud.

Take a look at parchment. Clearly most who are accepted to both BC and ND would attend ND. https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Boston+College&with=University+of+Notre+Dame

Way to miss the point. This doesn't take into account all the applicants to BC who do not apply to ND -- like the pps' kids mentioned upthread. Same for my kid and his group of friends. Most applying to BC, zero applying to ND.

44-0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OBVIOUSLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:As a Catholic with degrees from 2 Catholic universities (neither of which I attended BECAUSE they were Catholic), it seems like non-Catholics often overestimate the cohesion & exclusivity among Catholics. Yes, there are few extremist factions within Catholicism, but at ND, BC, Villanova, etc there are no secret handshakes or special privileges. In fact, anybody who would try to establish something like that would be scorned.

Also I Catholic with a degree from a Catholic college, and kids in Catholic schools, and while I don't disagree with what pp says, I don't think it can go with out saying that ND and Villanova are much more traditional Catholic than Georgetown and BC. My own kid has toured and will apply to several Jesuit colleges and zero non-Jesuit colleges.
But if OP's kid feels a connection with ND, then good for both of them.

Georgetown is barely Catholic. They have managed to remove many of the symbols of Catholicism and if they are still there, they apologize about it. BC not so much. My son applied to both BC and ND, got into both, and for obvious reasons is attending ND. He didn't like the Georgetown campus or vibe at all. He would have happily attended BC if he didn't get into ND.

And yes, football just might have been one factor that enticed him to go to the middle of nowhere for school. Football weekends are the best. That plus the program he was in and the sense of family the school exudes. It is just an amazing place.

They just can't help themselves. Proving every stereotype of an ND blowhard. Normal alums must be so proud.

Take a look at parchment. Clearly most who are accepted to both BC and ND would attend ND. https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Boston+College&with=University+of+Notre+Dame

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Anonymous wrote:As a Catholic with degrees from 2 Catholic universities (neither of which I attended BECAUSE they were Catholic), it seems like non-Catholics often overestimate the cohesion & exclusivity among Catholics. Yes, there are few extremist factions within Catholicism, but at ND, BC, Villanova, etc there are no secret handshakes or special privileges. In fact, anybody who would try to establish something like that would be scorned.

Also I Catholic with a degree from a Catholic college, and kids in Catholic schools, and while I don't disagree with what pp says, I don't think it can go with out saying that ND and Villanova are much more traditional Catholic than Georgetown and BC. My own kid has toured and will apply to several Jesuit colleges and zero non-Jesuit colleges.
But if OP's kid feels a connection with ND, then good for both of them.

Georgetown is barely Catholic. They have managed to remove many of the symbols of Catholicism and if they are still there, they apologize about it. BC not so much. My son applied to both BC and ND, got into both, and for obvious reasons is attending ND. He didn't like the Georgetown campus or vibe at all. He would have happily attended BC if he didn't get into ND.

And yes, football just might have been one factor that enticed him to go to the middle of nowhere for school. Football weekends are the best. That plus the program he was in and the sense of family the school exudes. It is just an amazing place.

They just can't help themselves. Proving every stereotype of an ND blowhard. Normal alums must be so proud.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Catholic with degrees from 2 Catholic universities (neither of which I attended BECAUSE they were Catholic), it seems like non-Catholics often overestimate the cohesion & exclusivity among Catholics. Yes, there are few extremist factions within Catholicism, but at ND, BC, Villanova, etc there are no secret handshakes or special privileges. In fact, anybody who would try to establish something like that would be scorned.

Also I Catholic with a degree from a Catholic college, and kids in Catholic schools, and while I don't disagree with what pp says, I don't think it can go with out saying that ND and Villanova are much more traditional Catholic than Georgetown and BC. My own kid has toured and will apply to several Jesuit colleges and zero non-Jesuit colleges.
But if OP's kid feels a connection with ND, then good for both of them.

Georgetown is barely Catholic. They have managed to remove many of the symbols of Catholicism and if they are still there, they apologize about it. BC not so much. My son applied to both BC and ND, got into both, and for obvious reasons is attending ND. He didn't like the Georgetown campus or vibe at all. He would have happily attended BC if he didn't get into ND.

And yes, football just might have been one factor that enticed him to go to the middle of nowhere for school. Football weekends are the best. That plus the program he was in and the sense of family the school exudes. It is just an amazing place.

Anonymous wrote:P.S. Your fake little business district is pathetic.

Huh?

P.S. Your fake little business district is pathetic.

I previously posted that non-Catholics often overestimate the cohesion among Catholics. Many thanks to the boastful 44-0 blowhards from ND for so eloquently proving my point.

ND alum and my roommate was non-Catholic and second generation Asian American. From everything I know, she was super happy and loved her time there.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Catholic with degrees from 2 Catholic universities (neither of which I attended BECAUSE they were Catholic), it seems like non-Catholics often overestimate the cohesion & exclusivity among Catholics. Yes, there are few extremist factions within Catholicism, but at ND, BC, Villanova, etc there are no secret handshakes or special privileges. In fact, anybody who would try to establish something like that would be scorned.

Also I Catholic with a degree from a Catholic college, and kids in Catholic schools, and while I don't disagree with what pp says, I don't think it can go with out saying that ND and Villanova are much more traditional Catholic than Georgetown and BC. My own kid has toured and will apply to several Jesuit colleges and zero non-Jesuit colleges.
But if OP's kid feels a connection with ND, then good for both of them.

Wow, you seem very close minded. You need to get over the Jesuit thing. There isn't much difference between the vibe at ND and BC. You eliminate a top 20 Catholic university because it isn't Jesuit? Your poor kid.

Save your faux pity. DS eliminated ND & Villanova because he felt they were too traditionally Catholic, too close-minded, and not aligned with his personal values. He felt very comfortable at BC and felt he could fit right in. It's his decision making process. Kids have eliminated schools for all sorts of reasons. Notre Dame will do just fine. As I said, if op's kid feels that connection with ND, then that's a win for both the kid and ND.

Did your kid even visit ND? The campus is much more vast/beautiful than BC and the football much better. My son liked BC though...it was his backup school.

OMG you bet the football's better. Last year ND blew them away 44-0. I watched that game on TV. It was a major white out snowstorm!

OMG indeed.

I would be so disappointed if my kid chose a college based on the score of a football game last year. And we'd both be disappointed if I touted the score of the football game a year later.

Never said you should choose based in that one factor. It is one of many. It’s fun to go to a school with a good team and strong academics. That’s hard to come by and ND does both really well.

ND's the only school with "a good team and strong academics"! 44-0!

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Anonymous wrote:As a Catholic with degrees from 2 Catholic universities (neither of which I attended BECAUSE they were Catholic), it seems like non-Catholics often overestimate the cohesion & exclusivity among Catholics. Yes, there are few extremist factions within Catholicism, but at ND, BC, Villanova, etc there are no secret handshakes or special privileges. In fact, anybody who would try to establish something like that would be scorned.

Also I Catholic with a degree from a Catholic college, and kids in Catholic schools, and while I don't disagree with what pp says, I don't think it can go with out saying that ND and Villanova are much more traditional Catholic than Georgetown and BC. My own kid has toured and will apply to several Jesuit colleges and zero non-Jesuit colleges.
But if OP's kid feels a connection with ND, then good for both of them.

Wow, you seem very close minded. You need to get over the Jesuit thing. There isn't much difference between the vibe at ND and BC. You eliminate a top 20 Catholic university because it isn't Jesuit? Your poor kid.

Save your faux pity. DS eliminated ND & Villanova because he felt they were too traditionally Catholic, too close-minded, and not aligned with his personal values. He felt very comfortable at BC and felt he could fit right in. It's his decision making process. Kids have eliminated schools for all sorts of reasons. Notre Dame will do just fine. As I said, if op's kid feels that connection with ND, then that's a win for both the kid and ND.

Did your kid even visit ND? The campus is much more vast/beautiful than BC and the football much better. My son liked BC though...it was his backup school.

OMG you bet the football's better. Last year ND blew them away 44-0. I watched that game on TV. It was a major white out snowstorm!

OMG indeed.

I would be so disappointed if my kid chose a college based on the score of a football game last year. And we'd both be disappointed if I touted the score of the football game a year later.

Never said you should choose based in that one factor. It is one of many. It’s fun to go to a school with a good team and strong academics. That’s hard to come by and ND does both really well.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Catholic with degrees from 2 Catholic universities (neither of which I attended BECAUSE they were Catholic), it seems like non-Catholics often overestimate the cohesion & exclusivity among Catholics. Yes, there are few extremist factions within Catholicism, but at ND, BC, Villanova, etc there are no secret handshakes or special privileges. In fact, anybody who would try to establish something like that would be scorned.

Also I Catholic with a degree from a Catholic college, and kids in Catholic schools, and while I don't disagree with what pp says, I don't think it can go with out saying that ND and Villanova are much more traditional Catholic than Georgetown and BC. My own kid has toured and will apply to several Jesuit colleges and zero non-Jesuit colleges.
But if OP's kid feels a connection with ND, then good for both of them.

Wow, you seem very close minded. You need to get over the Jesuit thing. There isn't much difference between the vibe at ND and BC. You eliminate a top 20 Catholic university because it isn't Jesuit? Your poor kid.

Save your faux pity. DS eliminated ND & Villanova because he felt they were too traditionally Catholic, too close-minded, and not aligned with his personal values. He felt very comfortable at BC and felt he could fit right in. It's his decision making process. Kids have eliminated schools for all sorts of reasons. Notre Dame will do just fine. As I said, if op's kid feels that connection with ND, then that's a win for both the kid and ND.

Did your kid even visit ND? The campus is much more vast/beautiful than BC and the football much better. My son liked BC though...it was his backup school.

OMG you bet the football's better. Last year ND blew them away 44-0. I watched that game on TV. It was a major white out snowstorm!

OMG indeed.

I would be so disappointed if my kid chose a college based on the score of a football game last year. And we'd both be disappointed if I touted the score of the football game a year later.

I would expect ND ranking to drop in September so it should be a bit easier to get into.