Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 12:49     Subject: Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's the NY Times tool: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/18/upshot/some-colleges-have-more-students-from-the-top-1-percent-than-the-bottom-60.html

Median family income:
1. Colorado College ($277,500)
2. WashU ($272,000)
3. Colgate ($270,200)
4. Washington and Lee ($261,000)
5. Trinity College ($257,100)
6. Middlebury ($244,300)
7. Colby ($236,100)
8. Georgetown ($229,100)
9. Bates ($226,500)
10. Tufts ($224,800)
11. Wake Forest ($221,500)
12. Pitzer ($216, 600)
13. Davidson ($213,900)
14. Kenyon ($213,500)
15. Franklin & Marshall ($212,100)
16. Skidmore ($208, 700)
17. Hamilton ($208,600)
18. Elon ($208,300)
19. Lafayette ($205,600)
20. Vanderbile ($204,500)
21. Bucknell ($204,200)
21. Brown ($204,200)
23. Claremont McKenna ($201,300)
24. Dartmouth ($200,400)
25. Southern Methodist ($198,900)

53. Carleton ($172,400)
69. USC ($161,400)
161. Pepperdine ($128,700)


I went to Wash. U. in parent times and never met anyone there who seemed especially wealthy.

Is it possible that schools like USC, Princeton and Dartmouth figured out a way to game the system and lower their apparent student family wealth levels?


WashU is currently filled with loaded student families.. It is the go-to backup school when you don't get into Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Northwestern, duke, etc for NYC area kids.....$$$$$$ flowing freely.


This comment shows your ignorance and bias. If what you say is true, then Northwestern, Emory, Vanderbilt, Tufts and others are also for Ivy League rejects and Yale, Princeton, Brown, Dartmouth, Penn and Cornell are all for Harvard rejects.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 12:20     Subject: Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
It seemed like everyone at Notre Dame was from a multi-millionaire family. Outside from a handful of low income charity cases.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 12:19     Subject: Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Anonymous wrote:Here's the NY Times tool: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/18/upshot/some-colleges-have-more-students-from-the-top-1-percent-than-the-bottom-60.html

Median family income:
1. Colorado College ($277,500)
2. WashU ($272,000)
3. Colgate ($270,200)
4. Washington and Lee ($261,000)
5. Trinity College ($257,100)
6. Middlebury ($244,300)
7. Colby ($236,100)
8. Georgetown ($229,100)
9. Bates ($226,500)
10. Tufts ($224,800)
11. Wake Forest ($221,500)
12. Pitzer ($216, 600)
13. Davidson ($213,900)
14. Kenyon ($213,500)
15. Franklin & Marshall ($212,100)
16. Skidmore ($208, 700)
17. Hamilton ($208,600)
18. Elon ($208,300)
19. Lafayette ($205,600)
20. Vanderbile ($204,500)
21. Bucknell ($204,200)
21. Brown ($204,200)
23. Claremont McKenna ($201,300)
24. Dartmouth ($200,400)
25. Southern Methodist ($198,900)

53. Carleton ($172,400)
69. USC ($161,400)
161. Pepperdine ($128,700)


Is median family income really the best way to tease out wealthiest families?
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 11:47     Subject: Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's the NY Times tool: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/18/upshot/some-colleges-have-more-students-from-the-top-1-percent-than-the-bottom-60.html

Median family income:
1. Colorado College ($277,500)
2. WashU ($272,000)
3. Colgate ($270,200)
4. Washington and Lee ($261,000)
5. Trinity College ($257,100)
6. Middlebury ($244,300)
7. Colby ($236,100)
8. Georgetown ($229,100)
9. Bates ($226,500)
10. Tufts ($224,800)
11. Wake Forest ($221,500)
12. Pitzer ($216, 600)
13. Davidson ($213,900)
14. Kenyon ($213,500)
15. Franklin & Marshall ($212,100)
16. Skidmore ($208, 700)
17. Hamilton ($208,600)
18. Elon ($208,300)
19. Lafayette ($205,600)
20. Vanderbile ($204,500)
21. Bucknell ($204,200)
21. Brown ($204,200)
23. Claremont McKenna ($201,300)
24. Dartmouth ($200,400)
25. Southern Methodist ($198,900)

53. Carleton ($172,400)
69. USC ($161,400)
161. Pepperdine ($128,700)


I went to Wash. U. in parent times and never met anyone there who seemed especially wealthy.

Is it possible that schools like USC, Princeton and Dartmouth figured out a way to game the system and lower their apparent student family wealth levels?


WashU is currently filled with loaded student families.. It is the go-to backup school when you don't get into Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Northwestern, duke, etc for NYC area kids.....$$$$$$ flowing freely.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 11:46     Subject: Re:Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Anonymous wrote:We make more than $229k and that $85k year is absolutely painful, especially with another also in college in another year.

None of those salaries qualify for aid. Schools without large endowments or need blind are t on the list because most kids at those schools barely pay anything out of pocket.


You are not supposed to plan to cash flow the $85K/year from current salary. You are supposed to be saving $10-15K/year for each kid when you are making $200K+/year. Even if you were making only $150K 10 years ago, as you got salary increases, you could have saved 50-75% of any increases into a 529 for your kids. If you did that for 15 years you would be able to afford it.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 11:26     Subject: Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/07/24/upshot/ivy-league-elite-college-admissions.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 11:24     Subject: Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:None of this is surprising OP - are you actually surprised?


I would’ve expected brown university to be on the list and also perhaps USC. Maybe even Pepperdine.


Agree that it is a bit surprising that Pepperdine, USC, & Brown, as well as Notre Dame, Northwestern, & Boston College are not among the top 25 schools on this list.


Brown, Northwestern and Notre Dame ARE in today's NYT article.


Can you furnish a link to TODAY'S NYTimes article ? TIA


Found this, which mentions ND and others. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/07/24/upshot/ivy-league-elite-college-admissions.html?searchResultPosition=4
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 09:32     Subject: Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:None of this is surprising OP - are you actually surprised?


I would’ve expected brown university to be on the list and also perhaps USC. Maybe even Pepperdine.


Agree that it is a bit surprising that Pepperdine, USC, & Brown, as well as Notre Dame, Northwestern, & Boston College are not among the top 25 schools on this list.


Brown, Northwestern and Notre Dame ARE in today's NYT article.


Can you furnish a link to TODAY'S NYTimes article ? TIA
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 09:27     Subject: Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:None of this is surprising OP - are you actually surprised?


I would’ve expected brown university to be on the list and also perhaps USC. Maybe even Pepperdine.


Agree that it is a bit surprising that Pepperdine, USC, & Brown, as well as Notre Dame, Northwestern, & Boston College are not among the top 25 schools on this list.


Brown, Northwestern and Notre Dame ARE in today's NYT article.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 09:24     Subject: Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:None of this is surprising OP - are you actually surprised?


I would’ve expected brown university to be on the list and also perhaps USC. Maybe even Pepperdine.


Agree that it is a bit surprising that Pepperdine, USC, & Brown, as well as Notre Dame, Northwestern, & Boston College are not among the top 25 schools on this list.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 09:23     Subject: Re:Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Anonymous wrote:We make more than $229k and that $85k year is absolutely painful, especially with another also in college in another year.

None of those salaries qualify for aid. Schools without large endowments or need blind are t on the list because most kids at those schools barely pay anything out of pocket.


+1

This is exactly why tuition will always increase. The full pay are subsidizing several other students.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 09:21     Subject: Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Anonymous wrote:Here's the NY Times tool: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/18/upshot/some-colleges-have-more-students-from-the-top-1-percent-than-the-bottom-60.html

Median family income:
1. Colorado College ($277,500)
2. WashU ($272,000)
3. Colgate ($270,200)
4. Washington and Lee ($261,000)
5. Trinity College ($257,100)
6. Middlebury ($244,300)
7. Colby ($236,100)
8. Georgetown ($229,100)
9. Bates ($226,500)
10. Tufts ($224,800)
11. Wake Forest ($221,500)
12. Pitzer ($216, 600)
13. Davidson ($213,900)
14. Kenyon ($213,500)
15. Franklin & Marshall ($212,100)
16. Skidmore ($208, 700)
17. Hamilton ($208,600)
18. Elon ($208,300)
19. Lafayette ($205,600)
20. Vanderbile ($204,500)
21. Bucknell ($204,200)
21. Brown ($204,200)
23. Claremont McKenna ($201,300)
24. Dartmouth ($200,400)
25. Southern Methodist ($198,900)

53. Carleton ($172,400)
69. USC ($161,400)
161. Pepperdine ($128,700)


13 of the top 17 are LACs.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 07:22     Subject: Re:Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Interesting. People on this forum always complain about how Boston College and Notre Dame are colleges with a bunch of rich and white students, but seems like others are much much worse.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 00:30     Subject: Re:Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Anonymous wrote:This is from like five years ago. But yes, Colorado College has very wealthy students. Lots of trust funders. I live in Colorado and almost every graduate I've met, their lifestyle doesn't match their job (ie they have family money).


+1
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 23:31     Subject: Top 10 colleges with the wealthiest students
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's the NY Times tool: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/18/upshot/some-colleges-have-more-students-from-the-top-1-percent-than-the-bottom-60.html

Median family income:
1. Colorado College ($277,500)
2. WashU ($272,000)
3. Colgate ($270,200)
4. Washington and Lee ($261,000)
5. Trinity College ($257,100)
6. Middlebury ($244,300)
7. Colby ($236,100)
8. Georgetown ($229,100)
9. Bates ($226,500)
10. Tufts ($224,800)
11. Wake Forest ($221,500)
12. Pitzer ($216, 600)
13. Davidson ($213,900)
14. Kenyon ($213,500)
15. Franklin & Marshall ($212,100)
16. Skidmore ($208, 700)
17. Hamilton ($208,600)
18. Elon ($208,300)
19. Lafayette ($205,600)
20. Vanderbile ($204,500)
21. Bucknell ($204,200)
21. Brown ($204,200)
23. Claremont McKenna ($201,300)
24. Dartmouth ($200,400)
25. Southern Methodist ($198,900)

53. Carleton ($172,400)
69. USC ($161,400)
161. Pepperdine ($128,700)


I went to Wash. U. in parent times and never met anyone there who seemed especially wealthy.

Is it possible that schools like USC, Princeton and Dartmouth figured out a way to game the system and lower their apparent student family wealth levels?


Income and wealth are two different things. Many very wealthy people manage their wealth to minimize taxable income.