OP: Need to hit D-1 times during junior year, possibly early senior year.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The difficulty with high-academic options is that they tend to prefer using most of their admissions help on mid and long distance runners who also run XC. Other teams, like football, will often help provide sprinters for the track team.

So i have a freshman in college - engineering major - who faced a similar dilemma. Was a very strong student in high school and ran competitive track and xc for 4 years. His best times were in mid distance where he ran at both regionals and states as well as invitationals.

He was getting recruitment letters from D3 schools. But as someone interested in engineering, he didn't want to go a D3 school. No matter what anyone says, liberal arts schools are not competing with Michigan, Cornell, Berkeley, Rice, Duke, Georgia Tech, Northwestern, Texas etc when it comes to engineering. For those schools his times in his most competitive events were at the "walk-on" level - not the "recruitment" level.

So he focused on the very good D1 school he wanted go to. Got in during the ED round. Spent the summer training. And when he arrived at college, he reached out to the track coach. The were no roster spots at all for his distance. This is D1. There are fifth and sixth year students running. And there are very few 18 year olds who are going to be competitive with 22/23 year old runners. But given his abilities, he was given a training regimen and put on a squad with other competitive freshman and team runners coming back from physical therapy. He needs to bring his time down by a few seconds.

So it's worked out so far. He gets to go to the engineering program he really wanted to. And he trains and becomes familiar with what it takes to run at the D1 level. And hopefully he joins the formal team next year.

100% correct.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The difficulty with high-academic options is that they tend to prefer using most of their admissions help on mid and long distance runners who also run XC. Other teams, like football, will often help provide sprinters for the track team.

So they don't need female sprinters?

^ I have a DD interested in high academic D3 schools.

Anonymous wrote:The difficulty with high-academic options is that they tend to prefer using most of their admissions help on mid and long distance runners who also run XC. Other teams, like football, will often help provide sprinters for the track team.

So they don't need female sprinters?

Anonymous wrote:Hopkins and CMU are excellent options.
Most of the runners at Hopkins in particular are good enough to be at low-level D1s but want to be at a high academic school.

Chicago, Emory, and Wash U are other great high-academic D3s with strong engineering programs.

Emory does not have a strong engineering program. They do a 3+2 with GT. GT is strong but Emory alone is not.

Is running D1 track and doing engineering realistic?

I have a kid who might seem to have D1 potential in another sport (young teen, so far from guaranteed) and is set on engineering. I have heard that the schedules at competitive D1 schools don't allow for things like lab classes.

Anonymous wrote:The difficulty with high-academic options is that they tend to prefer using most of their admissions help on mid and long distance runners who also run XC. Other teams, like football, will often help provide sprinters for the track team.

So i have a freshman in college - engineering major - who faced a similar dilemma. Was a very strong student in high school and ran competitive track and xc for 4 years. His best times were in mid distance where he ran at both regionals and states as well as invitationals.

He was getting recruitment letters from D3 schools. But as someone interested in engineering, he didn't want to go a D3 school. No matter what anyone says, liberal arts schools are not competing with Michigan, Cornell, Berkeley, Rice, Duke, Georgia Tech, Northwestern, Texas etc when it comes to engineering. For those schools his times in his most competitive events were at the "walk-on" level - not the "recruitment" level.

So he focused on the very good D1 school he wanted go to. Got in during the ED round. Spent the summer training. And when he arrived at college, he reached out to the track coach. The were no roster spots at all for his distance. This is D1. There are fifth and sixth year students running. And there are very few 18 year olds who are going to be competitive with 22/23 year old runners. But given his abilities, he was given a training regimen and put on a squad with other competitive freshman and team runners coming back from physical therapy. He needs to bring his time down by a few seconds.

So it's worked out so far. He gets to go to the engineering program he really wanted to. And he trains and becomes familiar with what it takes to run at the D1 level. And hopefully he joins the formal team next year.

The difficulty with high-academic options is that they tend to prefer using most of their admissions help on mid and long distance runners who also run XC. Other teams, like football, will often help provide sprinters for the track team.

Hopkins and CMU are excellent options.
Most of the runners at Hopkins in particular are good enough to be at low-level D1s but want to be at a high academic school.

Chicago, Emory, and Wash U are other great high-academic D3s with strong engineering programs.

Anonymous wrote:Use this site as a ballpark

https://runcruit.com/

Pretty sure OP said he/she knows the son is not hitting D1 times.

Anonymous wrote:The big question is, can you afford some of the D3s?

My kid can run at a lower ranked d1 or almost all the d3s. He is targeting higher ranked schools though, which in state for Virginia are about 35-40k a year.

Out of state and for better academic d3s, those are more expensive, but some line up better with his running times.

Example, Wesleyan, he can run those times and runcruit says he’s a recruit. But it’s 70-80k, and we’re not getting need or merit aid. Plus he’d have to eat in.

The big questions are, what schools fit:

Academically, financially, running times, and personality

My DD is the same boat but she doesn't have D1 times. She is close-ish to GMU but not VT or UVA runrecruit times. She would love Johns Hopkins but we were told their grants for athletes are piddly (yes I know D3 cannot give athletic scholarships but many D3 come up with grant money) and we cannot afford JH price.

What’s the fools SAT

You’re a clown OP

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Anonymous wrote:How does a 4.0 unweighted student not have MIT grades? I don't think you have to take "tons" of APs and if he has a 4.0 with some APs isn't that enough?

OP here. He is just a sophomore now. He won't have MIT grades because he will likely only graduate with 9 APs. Most kids have more. Also he will end at AP BC and ive been told MIT kids need multivariable calculus.

OP I really don't think you should let all these people scare you. There are plenty of kids going to MIT with "just" BC calculus and straight As. OMG.

Use this site as a ballpark

https://runcruit.com/