Anonymous
07/21/2023 21:36
Subject: Post SCOTUS Ruling: Let the Essays Begin
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Every school with pretextual processes is going to get sued. The right wing is ramping up to build the infrastructure to take them to the mat.
So? They’re all going to get sued no matter what they do.
They are going to get their hands tied tighter and tighter.
I’m disgusted by open confessions of trying to avoid following the law as it has been laid out and I think they’re going to regret the choices they made in the “f*ck around” stage of this conflict when they get to the “find out” stage.
There is literally no factor an admissions office can consider that does not have a disparate impact on one group or another.
Every single person rejected from any college can sue.
It does not matter what the college uses to make the decision.
Pure SAT? Disparate impact against whites.
Pure GPA? Disparate impact against Asians.
Athletics, legacy, donations? Disparate impact against non-whites.
Ability to pay? Disparate impact against blacks and Hispanics.
Use any factor except pure 100% lottery and you will be sued.
Okay. Who told you “disparate impact” was the standard?
Idiot.
Disparate impact is enough to make out a complaint. We’re not asking if these people will win, we’re asking if they’ll sue. The Coalition for TJ claimed disparate impact and they’ve made a lot of fuss, even if they don’t win in the end.
Anonymous
07/21/2023 21:34
Subject: Post SCOTUS Ruling: Let the Essays Begin
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Every school with pretextual processes is going to get sued. The right wing is ramping up to build the infrastructure to take them to the mat.
So? They’re all going to get sued no matter what they do.
They are going to get their hands tied tighter and tighter.
I’m disgusted by open confessions of trying to avoid following the law as it has been laid out and I think they’re going to regret the choices they made in the “f*ck around” stage of this conflict when they get to the “find out” stage.
There is literally no factor an admissions office can consider that does not have a disparate impact on one group or another.
Every single person rejected from any college can sue.
It does not matter what the college uses to make the decision.
Pure SAT? Disparate impact against whites.
Pure GPA? Disparate impact against Asians.
Athletics, legacy, donations? Disparate impact against non-whites.
Ability to pay? Disparate impact against blacks and Hispanics.
Use any factor except pure 100% lottery and you will be sued.
Most of those who sue are whiners and wouldn't have gotten accepted anyways. It's very easy to scapegoat and find blame.
Anonymous
07/21/2023 21:33
Subject: Post SCOTUS Ruling: Let the Essays Begin
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Every school with pretextual processes is going to get sued. The right wing is ramping up to build the infrastructure to take them to the mat.
So? They’re all going to get sued no matter what they do.
They are going to get their hands tied tighter and tighter.
I’m disgusted by open confessions of trying to avoid following the law as it has been laid out and I think they’re going to regret the choices they made in the “f*ck around” stage of this conflict when they get to the “find out” stage.
There is literally no factor an admissions office can consider that does not have a disparate impact on one group or another.
Every single person rejected from any college can sue.
It does not matter what the college uses to make the decision.
Pure SAT? Disparate impact against whites.
Pure GPA? Disparate impact against Asians.
Athletics, legacy, donations? Disparate impact against non-whites.
Ability to pay? Disparate impact against blacks and Hispanics.
Use any factor except pure 100% lottery and you will be sued.
Wait, I’m wrong. If you use a lottery Asian admissions will go down. And when Asian admissions went down they sued TJ.
So there’s no solution. You either admit every single applicant or you get sued.
Anonymous
07/21/2023 21:32
Subject: Post SCOTUS Ruling: Let the Essays Begin
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Every school with pretextual processes is going to get sued. The right wing is ramping up to build the infrastructure to take them to the mat.
So? They’re all going to get sued no matter what they do.
They are going to get their hands tied tighter and tighter.
I’m disgusted by open confessions of trying to avoid following the law as it has been laid out and I think they’re going to regret the choices they made in the “f*ck around” stage of this conflict when they get to the “find out” stage.
There is literally no factor an admissions office can consider that does not have a disparate impact on one group or another.
Every single person rejected from any college can sue.
It does not matter what the college uses to make the decision.
Pure SAT? Disparate impact against whites.
Pure GPA? Disparate impact against Asians.
Athletics, legacy, donations? Disparate impact against non-whites.
Ability to pay? Disparate impact against blacks and Hispanics.
Use any factor except pure 100% lottery and you will be sued.
Okay. Who told you “disparate impact” was the standard?
Idiot.
Anonymous
07/21/2023 21:31
Subject: Post SCOTUS Ruling: Let the Essays Begin
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The essays will be annoying even for URMs, being asked by colleges to "sell trauma," as a recent article on this discussed.
What about the National Recognition Programs for URMs from College Board? They expanded during COVID, including not only the top 10% of PSAT scorers per group by state, but also those with a 3 on two AP exams, not a very high bar. Back door?
“Back door” expressly forbidden by scotus.
Correct. Most people never read the ruling. The papers like to quote the Roberts passage, but he also warned against using it as a backdoor. The court couldn't (as it never would have wanted to) rule that colleges couldn't tell kids what to talk about in the essays. But schools will need to tread carefully because as long as someone can show a pattern of admitting one race at a lower standard measured by grades and scores, they open themselves up to lawsuits.
Anonymous
07/21/2023 21:29
Subject: Post SCOTUS Ruling: Let the Essays Begin
Anonymous wrote:Ugh it’s just so icky and performative. These schools have fallen hard and who wants to go to Sarah Lawrence anyway?
Directly or indirectly, the T25 colleges will do the same thing.
Don't be mad.
Anonymous
07/21/2023 21:29
Subject: Post SCOTUS Ruling: Let the Essays Begin
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Every school with pretextual processes is going to get sued. The right wing is ramping up to build the infrastructure to take them to the mat.
So? They’re all going to get sued no matter what they do.
They are going to get their hands tied tighter and tighter.
I’m disgusted by open confessions of trying to avoid following the law as it has been laid out and I think they’re going to regret the choices they made in the “f*ck around” stage of this conflict when they get to the “find out” stage.
There is literally no factor an admissions office can consider that does not have a disparate impact on one group or another.
Every single person rejected from any college can sue.
It does not matter what the college uses to make the decision.
Pure SAT? Disparate impact against whites.
Pure GPA? Disparate impact against Asians.
Athletics, legacy, donations? Disparate impact against non-whites.
Ability to pay? Disparate impact against blacks and Hispanics.
Use any factor except pure 100% lottery and you will be sued.
Anonymous
07/21/2023 21:26
Subject: Post SCOTUS Ruling: Let the Essays Begin
Ugh it’s just so icky and performative. These schools have fallen hard and who wants to go to Sarah Lawrence anyway?
Anonymous
07/21/2023 21:24
Subject: Post SCOTUS Ruling: Let the Essays Begin
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It will result in lots of trauma essays and I’m a good ally essays.
And not that difficult to make up. BTW, Does Asian trauma count?
There are tons of Asian immigrants from third world countries who overcame a ton to get here.
But no, it doesn’t count, because it isn’t what schools are looking for.
But trans immigrant Asians will be golden!
The whole situation is pathetic!
It truly is.
Anonymous
07/21/2023 21:23
Subject: Post SCOTUS Ruling: Let the Essays Begin
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It will result in lots of trauma essays and I’m a good ally essays.
My African American DS refuses to write a trauma essay in response to this type of question. Although he has been profiled by police and in stores, he is upper middle class and doesn't think it is appropriate to construct an essay around racial identity/ trauma or else you are low-income, something significant happened that negatively impacted his life, discrimination in an educational setting, attend an under-resourced school. etc.
Essays can come from inspiration as well.
Be positive!
Anonymous
07/21/2023 21:23
Subject: Post SCOTUS Ruling: Let the Essays Begin
Anonymous wrote:ChatGPT (if that gets too tamped down) one of its several competitors can be used to generate a 1000 truma/good ally essays. Pick one that you like, customize to your situation, personalize it and you're done. Game the gamers.
ChatGPT content is honestly remarkably easy to spot and has gotten worse instead of better over time due to operations costs.
Anonymous
07/21/2023 21:23
Subject: Post SCOTUS Ruling: Let the Essays Begin
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It will result in lots of trauma essays and I’m a good ally essays.
And not that difficult to make up. BTW, Does Asian trauma count?
There are tons of Asian immigrants from third world countries who overcame a ton to get here.
But no, it doesn’t count, because it isn’t what schools are looking for.
But trans immigrant Asians will be golden!
The whole situation is pathetic!
Anonymous
07/21/2023 21:22
Subject: Post SCOTUS Ruling: Let the Essays Begin
ChatGPT (if that gets too tamped down) one of its several competitors can be used to generate a 1000 truma/good ally essays. Pick one that you like, customize to your situation, personalize it and you're done. Game the gamers.
Anonymous
07/21/2023 21:21
Subject: Post SCOTUS Ruling: Let the Essays Begin
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It will result in lots of trauma essays and I’m a good ally essays.
And not that difficult to make up. BTW, Does Asian trauma count?
There are tons of Asian immigrants from third world countries who overcame a ton to get here.
But no, it doesn’t count, because it isn’t what schools are looking for.
But trans immigrant Asians will be golden!
Anonymous
07/21/2023 21:18
Subject: Post SCOTUS Ruling: Let the Essays Begin
Anonymous wrote:It will result in lots of trauma essays and I’m a good ally essays.
And not that difficult to make up. BTW, Does Asian trauma count?