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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps we can start a list of food service places that allow (non service animal) dogs inside, so the dog obsessed know where to take their dogs, and those of us that find it disgusting can stay away.

Anyone care to share and shout out some local businesses?

I'll contribute:
Fresh Baguette in Old Town
Trader Joe's in Old Town
Harris Teeter in Old Town
Trader Joe's in Springfield
Chipotle in Potomac Yards

Inside?! we have to remember that a lot of these people and businesses don’t want to get a legal trouble by denying an “ emotional support animal” so they won’t say anything. None of these places that you listed should allow dogs inside. I thought this was going to be a nice list of where dogs are welcome on patios.

"Emotional Support Animals" are pets. They are not service animals. There is no legal right to bring your "emotional support animal" anywhere according to ADA, and ADA makes this very clear on their website.

And you CAN ask certain questions, and deny someone entry if they refuse to answer questions.

People need to stop being selfish gross princesses and bringing their doggos with them everywhere.

I completely agree that they’re not service animals and don’t belong inside. But my point stands that businesses are weary of getting into any legal issues. I think they are afraid of just asking.

They shouldn't need to ask -- service animals should be in a vest that identifies them as such. I can't imagine anyone with a service animal leaving their house to go to the store without putting the animal's vest on.

Vests are neither required or provided by most training organizations. The dogs you see in vests, which you can buy on the internet, are not more likely to be service dogs than the other dogs.

The fact that you can't imagine something is an indication you either don't have knowledge or you don't have imagination. It's not something to boast about.

I do "have knowledge." know two people with service dogs. They always put them in the vest even though it isn't technically required (by law or by the contract signed when getting a service dog trained by an organization).

I can, of course, imagine that people who have dogs that are not service dogs, but who want to take them places dogs are not allowed, will put them in service dog harnesses. I doubt, however, that there are vast numbers of people doing this. So -- I disagree that the dogs you see in harnesses or vests that identify them as service dogs "are not more likely to be service dogs than the other dogs." They most certainly are more likely to be service dogs.

If you were to make a point about how easy it is to order a vest on the internet and how that has led to lots more folks who don't have service dogs abusing the system, I'd buy that. But that's not what you said, and that doesn't certainly doesn't = your ridiculous statement that "The dogs you see in vests, which you can buy on the internet, are not more likely to be service dogs than the other dogs."

Oh and I wasn't "boasting" nor do I lack imagination. But I think that was clear and your comment about it and need to get personal nicely identifies you as a troll.

Anonymous wrote:I'm dog obsessed and love my dogs more than anything but my DH. But I would never take them into a grocery store -- that is a damn health hazard. (Service dogs should, of course, be welcome, and it makes sense as they are needed by their people, and highly trained animals that you can count on to not get into the food, go to the bathroom in the store, etc.)

I also would never take my dog in a grocery store and don't want anyone to, but genuinely, how is a leashed dog on the ground more of a health hazard than all the gross people who don't wash their hands or sneeze in the open etc?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps we can start a list of food service places that allow (non service animal) dogs inside, so the dog obsessed know where to take their dogs, and those of us that find it disgusting can stay away.

Anyone care to share and shout out some local businesses?

I'll contribute:
Fresh Baguette in Old Town
Trader Joe's in Old Town
Harris Teeter in Old Town
Trader Joe's in Springfield
Chipotle in Potomac Yards

How exactly is this legal?

OP here. Because they don't enforce it. It's disgusting.

Seriously people, if there are food establishments where you've seen people bring their dogs inside and nothing is done, please add them.

And it's incredibly obvious which animals are real service animals trained to perform medical tasks, and someone's pet dog.

How can you tell?

The service dog handler I know, who has a small breed alert dog, has been told repeatedly that small dogs can't be service dogs, or dogs that sometimes are carried can't be service dogs, or dogs that you train yourself can't be service dogs. His dog is all three of these things, and very much a service dog.

What medically necessary task is his dog trained to perform?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps we can start a list of food service places that allow (non service animal) dogs inside, so the dog obsessed know where to take their dogs, and those of us that find it disgusting can stay away.

Anyone care to share and shout out some local businesses?

I'll contribute:
Fresh Baguette in Old Town
Trader Joe's in Old Town
Harris Teeter in Old Town
Trader Joe's in Springfield
Chipotle in Potomac Yards

How exactly is this legal?

OP here. Because they don't enforce it. It's disgusting.

Seriously people, if there are food establishments where you've seen people bring their dogs inside and nothing is done, please add them.

And it's incredibly obvious which animals are real service animals trained to perform medical tasks, and someone's pet dog.

How can you tell?

The service dog handler I know, who has a small breed alert dog, has been told repeatedly that small dogs can't be service dogs, or dogs that sometimes are carried can't be service dogs, or dogs that you train yourself can't be service dogs. His dog is all three of these things, and very much a service dog.

I would love to know what store is challenging dogs in a grocery store so I can support them. Every dog that’s going in to a food establishment should be challenged. If it really is a service dog, great!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps we can start a list of food service places that allow (non service animal) dogs inside, so the dog obsessed know where to take their dogs, and those of us that find it disgusting can stay away.

Anyone care to share and shout out some local businesses?

I'll contribute:
Fresh Baguette in Old Town
Trader Joe's in Old Town
Harris Teeter in Old Town
Trader Joe's in Springfield
Chipotle in Potomac Yards

How exactly is this legal?

OP here. Because they don't enforce it. It's disgusting.

Seriously people, if there are food establishments where you've seen people bring their dogs inside and nothing is done, please add them.

And it's incredibly obvious which animals are real service animals trained to perform medical tasks, and someone's pet dog.

It is disgusting, agreed. But I blame the disgusting dog owners, not the stores. I’ve seen couples with dogs in the grocery store. As in two humans, one dog. So obviously one of those humans could have waited outside with the dog and instead decided to do something 1) gross and 2) illegal. It is bizarre behavior.

These people have serious issues if they can’t understand why it’s not appropriate to have a dog in a grocery store.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps we can start a list of food service places that allow (non service animal) dogs inside, so the dog obsessed know where to take their dogs, and those of us that find it disgusting can stay away.

Anyone care to share and shout out some local businesses?

I'll contribute:
Fresh Baguette in Old Town
Trader Joe's in Old Town
Harris Teeter in Old Town
Trader Joe's in Springfield
Chipotle in Potomac Yards

How exactly is this legal?

OP here. Because they don't enforce it. It's disgusting.

Seriously people, if there are food establishments where you've seen people bring their dogs inside and nothing is done, please add them.

And it's incredibly obvious which animals are real service animals trained to perform medical tasks, and someone's pet dog.

How can you tell?

The service dog handler I know, who has a small breed alert dog, has been told repeatedly that small dogs can't be service dogs, or dogs that sometimes are carried can't be service dogs, or dogs that you train yourself can't be service dogs. His dog is all three of these things, and very much a service dog.

Not a grocery store, but I frequently see dogs inside HomeGoods at Bailey's Crossroads. In fact one pooped on the floor in the next aisle while I was Christmas shopping.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps we can start a list of food service places that allow (non service animal) dogs inside, so the dog obsessed know where to take their dogs, and those of us that find it disgusting can stay away.

Anyone care to share and shout out some local businesses?

I'll contribute:
Fresh Baguette in Old Town
Trader Joe's in Old Town
Harris Teeter in Old Town
Trader Joe's in Springfield
Chipotle in Potomac Yards

How exactly is this legal?

OP here. Because they don't enforce it. It's disgusting.

Seriously people, if there are food establishments where you've seen people bring their dogs inside and nothing is done, please add them.

And it's incredibly obvious which animals are real service animals trained to perform medical tasks, and someone's pet dog.

Anonymous wrote:Wait - are dogs really allowed in grocery stores??

Nope. But some people suck.

I see dogs in the Harris teeter in NOMA all the time and there is a sign on the door saying service animals only.

These people just suck.

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps we can start a list of food service places that allow (non service animal) dogs inside, so the dog obsessed know where to take their dogs, and those of us that find it disgusting can stay away.

Anyone care to share and shout out some local businesses?

I'll contribute:
Fresh Baguette in Old Town
Trader Joe's in Old Town
Harris Teeter in Old Town
Trader Joe's in Springfield
Chipotle in Potomac Yards

How exactly is this legal?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps we can start a list of food service places that allow (non service animal) dogs inside, so the dog obsessed know where to take their dogs, and those of us that find it disgusting can stay away.

Anyone care to share and shout out some local businesses?

I'll contribute:
Fresh Baguette in Old Town
Trader Joe's in Old Town
Harris Teeter in Old Town
Trader Joe's in Springfield
Chipotle in Potomac Yards

Inside?! we have to remember that a lot of these people and businesses don’t want to get a legal trouble by denying an “ emotional support animal” so they won’t say anything. None of these places that you listed should allow dogs inside. I thought this was going to be a nice list of where dogs are welcome on patios.

"Emotional Support Animals" are pets. They are not service animals. There is no legal right to bring your "emotional support animal" anywhere according to ADA, and ADA makes this very clear on their website.

And you CAN ask certain questions, and deny someone entry if they refuse to answer questions.

People need to stop being selfish gross princesses and bringing their doggos with them everywhere.

I completely agree that they’re not service animals and don’t belong inside. But my point stands that businesses are weary of getting into any legal issues. I think they are afraid of just asking.

Nonsense. Businesses that allow animals into their establishments are already risking legal issues by violating the law. Read federal food codes. It is agaisnt the law.

Anonymous wrote:Wait - are dogs really allowed in grocery stores??

No. It is against federal code. Establishments that allow it should really be cracked down on.

IT IS IILLEGAL.

Any place that allows it should be repoeted. It's Federal code that animals are not allowed in establishments that sell and prepare food. What's so hard to understand? Keep your dogs and animals at home people.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps we can start a list of food service places that allow (non service animal) dogs inside, so the dog obsessed know where to take their dogs, and those of us that find it disgusting can stay away.

Anyone care to share and shout out some local businesses?

I'll contribute:
Fresh Baguette in Old Town
Trader Joe's in Old Town
Harris Teeter in Old Town
Trader Joe's in Springfield
Chipotle in Potomac Yards

Inside?! we have to remember that a lot of these people and businesses don’t want to get a legal trouble by denying an “ emotional support animal” so they won’t say anything. None of these places that you listed should allow dogs inside. I thought this was going to be a nice list of where dogs are welcome on patios.

"Emotional Support Animals" are pets. They are not service animals. There is no legal right to bring your "emotional support animal" anywhere according to ADA, and ADA makes this very clear on their website.

And you CAN ask certain questions, and deny someone entry if they refuse to answer questions.

People need to stop being selfish gross princesses and bringing their doggos with them everywhere.

I completely agree that they’re not service animals and don’t belong inside. But my point stands that businesses are weary of getting into any legal issues. I think they are afraid of just asking.

They shouldn't need to ask -- service animals should be in a vest that identifies them as such. I can't imagine anyone with a service animal leaving their house to go to the store without putting the animal's vest on.

There are fake vests all over Amazon. And real service animals don't need vests, so princess Larla sees one person bring their dog and then things she's entitled to bring her doggy with her to get coffee, a pastry, groceries, lunch, whatever.

There needs to be a better way.

But I do think businesses that make no effort to curb this jerk behavior should be publicized. And on the flipside, businesses that DO make an effort, should be publicized and praised.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps we can start a list of food service places that allow (non service animal) dogs inside, so the dog obsessed know where to take their dogs, and those of us that find it disgusting can stay away.

Anyone care to share and shout out some local businesses?

I'll contribute:
Fresh Baguette in Old Town
Trader Joe's in Old Town
Harris Teeter in Old Town
Trader Joe's in Springfield
Chipotle in Potomac Yards

Inside?! we have to remember that a lot of these people and businesses don’t want to get a legal trouble by denying an “ emotional support animal” so they won’t say anything. None of these places that you listed should allow dogs inside. I thought this was going to be a nice list of where dogs are welcome on patios.

"Emotional Support Animals" are pets. They are not service animals. There is no legal right to bring your "emotional support animal" anywhere according to ADA, and ADA makes this very clear on their website.

And you CAN ask certain questions, and deny someone entry if they refuse to answer questions.

People need to stop being selfish gross princesses and bringing their doggos with them everywhere.

I completely agree that they’re not service animals and don’t belong inside. But my point stands that businesses are weary of getting into any legal issues. I think they are afraid of just asking.

They shouldn't need to ask -- service animals should be in a vest that identifies them as such. I can't imagine anyone with a service animal leaving their house to go to the store without putting the animal's vest on.

Vests are neither required or provided by most training organizations. The dogs you see in vests, which you can buy on the internet, are not more likely to be service dogs than the other dogs.

The fact that you can't imagine something is an indication you either don't have knowledge or you don't have imagination. It's not something to boast about.