Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 09:55     Subject: So it’s 22% tips now

Amazing. A bunch of rich white professional and allegedly liberal women who purport to care complaining about leaving a few extra pennies as a tip.

The hypocrisy of DCUM is over the top.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 09:54     Subject: So it’s 22% tips now

Why are you acting like this is some foregone conclusion, like you are being frog-marched into the trunk of a car?

Tip what you want, when you want. Like always. As has always been true.

Get your precious feelings hurt about some other imaginary hardship. Because OPTIONAL practices ain't it.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 09:52     Subject: So it’s 22% tips now

just dont tip, it's not illegal
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 09:52     Subject: So it’s 22% tips now

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a standard option on checks on my recent travels. The default is 20% and low is 18%. Is this new?


If you are unable to calculate the tip you want and have to use the preset options, you deserve to pay a 2-3% penalty.


Many systems intentionally make it hard to customize your tip. You can, but it's not obvious and the system is clunky, whereas the preset tips are designed to be very easy to use. It's a manipulation tactic.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 09:50     Subject: Re:So it’s 22% tips now

Anonymous wrote:20 for good table service. 10 for take-out. 0 for standard point-of-sale transactions. Done.


Same.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 09:49     Subject: So it’s 22% tips now

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:just do 15 and be done with it. 0 for carry outs. i refuse to buy into this crazy tip-sh*t culture we are in


+1
Ridiculous! When I'm prompted I hit no tip. I still consider 15% decent and 20% good. If they want more then that, they need a better job. Once the employers have a hard time with staffing they will raise wages. It's called capitalism.


To raise wages they’ll raise prices, and by more than the tipped amount because it will be taxed more. But if you’d rather pay more overall just not as tips, have at it!


I'd much rather have a menu where the price is just the price


This. I wish that we could just go out to eat without having to do a stupid calculation at the end to pay servers. I'm over tipping. Employers, learn how to run a business and pay your people.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 09:49     Subject: So it’s 22% tips now

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:just do 15 and be done with it. 0 for carry outs. i refuse to buy into this crazy tip-sh*t culture we are in


+1
Ridiculous! When I'm prompted I hit no tip. I still consider 15% decent and 20% good. If they want more then that, they need a better job. Once the employers have a hard time with staffing they will raise wages. It's called capitalism.


What’s your HHI?
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 09:48     Subject: So it’s 22% tips now

Do what you want. I do 20% for good service and 15% for just OK.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 09:48     Subject: So it’s 22% tips now

Anonymous wrote:just do 15 and be done with it. 0 for carry outs. i refuse to buy into this crazy tip-sh*t culture we are in


What’s your HHI?
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 09:47     Subject: Re:So it’s 22% tips now

Sometimes the tip screen will have little grades for the tips. Like it will say "18% (fair)" or "22% (good)" or "25% (great)."

And the funny thing is that these grades are really supposed to be a reflection of the customer's opinion of the service. Like you are really only supposed to tip 25% for really exceptional service, and if your experience was only fair, 18% is appropriate. Which makes sense, because a tip is supposed to be like a grade for the service, right?

But the tone of tipping culture has made it seem like these are actually grades for the tip itself, or the customer giving it. Oh, an 18% tip? Okay I guess, but you can do better. Just 22%. Alright, but not exceptional. There you go, 25%, good job! Eff you.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 09:44     Subject: Re:So it’s 22% tips now

Tipping is an evil practice and we should all boycott it.

First, it puts the economic risks of running a business on the low paid employee rather than the wealthy owner. For example, if you own a restaurant, you keep your restaurant open from 12pm-10pm. You know most of the customers come between 7pm and 10pm but you can't just open for 3 hours. You hire staff and pay them $3.50 an hour knowing there will be several hours where they will not get any tips. New waiters know that they will often get the shifts where no customers come but they still earn $3.50 an hour.

Second, if your restaurant is terrible, if the economy is down, if you decide to open in a bad location, no customers come and the owner has lost nothing but $3.50 an hour. If the restaurant is understaffed and customers tip badly, they also don't earn very much. Some weeks a waiter might earn a lot, some a little - but their rent and other expenses stay the same.

Third, many waiters will say, I like to get tips because I earn more than I would if I was only earning minimum wage. What they are missing is that restaurants will not be able to pay minimum wage - they will have to pay above minimum wage (like McDonald's sometimes does when they really need staff). And they will be better able to predict their earnings.


https://time.com/5404475/history-tipping-american-restaurants-civil-war/
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 09:43     Subject: So it’s 22% tips now

Anonymous wrote:As a standard option on checks on my recent travels. The default is 20% and low is 18%. Is this new?


If you are unable to calculate the tip you want and have to use the preset options, you deserve to pay a 2-3% penalty.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 09:38     Subject: So it’s 22% tips now

Anonymous wrote:What I hate the most is this strategy of shaming you or making it so awkward and uncomfortable that you are "forced" to tip higher amount. I can deal with it now but it took some getting used to.


Yes, I had to adjust the way I approach these interactions. I used to view tipping as a form of thank you or a compliment to the staff, and I was happy to provide the tip. Now that places aggressively ask for tips or provide a "default" tip on electronic transactions that I must affirmatively change, I view it as what it is -- a negotiation. It's not a thank you or a compliment, we're bargaining and your goal is to get as much of my money as possible. Well now my goal is to keep as much of my money as possible, and I'm not going to bullied or manipulated into giving more. See how that works?
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 09:33     Subject: So it’s 22% tips now

When places don't have a no tip option and they go up to 25% tip, I just get really angry that the business owners refuse to pay their employees and that it somehow has become my job to pay their employees. I buy Compass Coffee now for this reason. Before I knew they did this, I went in and was like "sheesh that's an expensive latte", but then nobody hit me up for a tip and I felt so good about life that I'm never going anywhere else.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 09:31     Subject: So it’s 22% tips now

Anonymous wrote:I give between 20 and 25 for table service. I give 0 for carryout meals. With that said, I'm not getting carryout from a nice table service restaurant. I'm getting it from places like Cava, 5 Guys, Mezeh, Chipotle, Subway, Panera, Mod Pizza, McDonalds, etc.


+1 same here.