Based on this kid’s track record and our juvenile justice system he will continue to be arrested and then released until he kills someone. He will get bolder and pull the trigger at some point. We as a system condone this.

Also why aren’t his parents being investigated or arrested or something? This is neglect of the highest order. Your kid has a gun? You go to jail.

Anonymous wrote:The 11 year-old pulled a gun on multiple people! Where TF is a 5th grade acquiring a gun?

The mom says he’s on drugs, she thinks he has psychological problems, and she can’t control him.

This kid needs to be sent to a military or remedial boarding school in the depths of Maine or Vermont for a few years to get him sorted out. Along with a full psyche eval and whatever meds are needed.

Why would you loose this violent criminal on the good people of Maine or Vermont? DC grew this monster, DC needs to fix it.

And by fix it, accept the fact that this kid is beyond redemption and start his lifelong view behind prison bars. It will cost less money and lives in the long run.

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Anonymous wrote:“agreed to stay out of Northwest DC”? Is this the criminal justice version of NIMBY? He can be turned loose on society, as long as he doesn’t bother anyone in NW DC? Either he presents a danger to society or he doesn’t (and it appears he does).

As someone who lives in NE DC, I am not excited to apparently have to put up with violent crime just because I can’t afford to move to NW.

Eh. He was going to NW to do crime. Banning him from there makes sense. If he were going to SE to do crime, then he might have been banned from there instead.

Thinking this is NIMBY? Y'all have some strange ideas.

Since he is 11, I suspect he won't be able to figure out how to commit crimes in another neighborhood.

Are you naive? Kids like this one (per his mother's description) can navigate a world of crime like most other 11 year-olds can navigate a playground.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“agreed to stay out of Northwest DC”? Is this the criminal justice version of NIMBY? He can be turned loose on society, as long as he doesn’t bother anyone in NW DC? Either he presents a danger to society or he doesn’t (and it appears he does).

As someone who lives in NE DC, I am not excited to apparently have to put up with violent crime just because I can’t afford to move to NW.

Eh. He was going to NW to do crime. Banning him from there makes sense. If he were going to SE to do crime, then he might have been banned from there instead.

Thinking this is NIMBY? Y'all have some strange ideas.

Since he is 11, I suspect he won't be able to figure out how to commit crimes in another neighborhood.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“agreed to stay out of Northwest DC”? Is this the criminal justice version of NIMBY? He can be turned loose on society, as long as he doesn’t bother anyone in NW DC? Either he presents a danger to society or he doesn’t (and it appears he does).

As someone who lives in NE DC, I am not excited to apparently have to put up with violent crime just because I can’t afford to move to NW.

Eh. He was going to NW to do crime. Banning him from there makes sense. If he were going to SE to do crime, then he might have been banned from there instead.

Thinking this is NIMBY? Y'all have some strange ideas.

+1. Stay away orders from the place you did your crime are almost universal when a criminal defendant is released. A whole quadrant is expansive, and I'd definitely object if I were his lawyer, but if they're issuing quadrant wide stay-aways, they're not just for Northwest.

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Anonymous wrote:“agreed to stay out of Northwest DC”? Is this the criminal justice version of NIMBY? He can be turned loose on society, as long as he doesn’t bother anyone in NW DC? Either he presents a danger to society or he doesn’t (and it appears he does).

As someone who lives in NE DC, I am not excited to apparently have to put up with violent crime just because I can’t afford to move to NW.

Eh. He was going to NW to do crime. Banning him from there makes sense. If he were going to SE to do crime, then he might have been banned from there instead.

Thinking this is NIMBY? Y'all have some strange ideas.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and could think of a few former students this could be. One has a mentally ill parent and another parent truly doing their best but has trauma and PTSD from the other parent. There’s a lack of mental health resources available. And at schools we’re so trauma informed we allow kids to get away with anything. I’ve seen it all in elementary school and the kids just get. a few days suspension to play video games and come back bragging about it.

The real answer to crime is what’s happening at the lower school levels. And that’s a question for city council who has eliminated all disciplinary options.

+1. Also a teacher. I agree with everything you wrote. I guarantee this kid is a behavior problem at school and his teachers have been brushed off when they voiced concerns.

+2

Worked in schools and also juvenile courts and the "kids will be kids" mentality is most definitely not working. Too many parents in denial or checked out, and teachers' hands are tied.

Anonymous wrote:The 11 year-old pulled a gun on multiple people! Where TF is a 5th grade acquiring a gun?

The mom says he’s on drugs, she thinks he has psychological problems, and she can’t control him.

This kid needs to be sent to a military or remedial boarding school in the depths of Maine or Vermont for a few years to get him sorted out. Along with a full psyche eval and whatever meds are needed.

Bring back Reform Schools. Juvie is a joke. And no, Maine and Vermont don't want this sh&t there.

Therapy doesn't work. people just lie.

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The 11 year-old pulled a gun on multiple people! Where TF is a 5th grade acquiring a gun?

The mom says he’s on drugs, she thinks he has psychological problems, and she can’t control him.

This kid needs to be sent to a military or remedial boarding school in the depths of Maine or Vermont for a few years to get him sorted out. Along with a full psyche eval and whatever meds are needed.



The kid is obviously a victim himself so sending him to some abusive place will not get him “sorted out” at all. If that crap worked so well we would be doing it with everyone.

This "crap" as you call it, it EXACTLY the type of re-set that middle and upper middle class families do when they have kids going off the rails. Yes, there are some abusive type places in that vein but there are also a lot of good ones. We had an increasingly violent 13 yo whom we had adopted at age 8 out of a trauma background and that was exactly what we did. After a stint in that type of environment, he came home and graduated from high school, attend trade school, and now holds down a good job. Those type of intensive high-structure/high nurture environments are where we need to be sending youthful offenders---not re-releasing them back into the communities without consequences so their behaviors will continue to escalate. But it has to be real therapy along with the intensively structured environment---not just a holding pen "baby" prison where kids can just learn worse behaviors from each other. And along with shipping a kid off to a high structure environment, there needs to be a requirement that the parent/caretaker also participate in intensive therapy and monitoring, so the kid just doesn't relapse into prior behaviors once returned to the home. Are these kinds of environments incredibly expensive to build and maintain? Absolutely. A good one costs as much per kid per year as sending a kid to Harvard. But what we are doing now isn't working.

Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher and could think of a few former students this could be. One has a mentally ill parent and another parent truly doing their best but has trauma and PTSD from the other parent. There’s a lack of mental health resources available. And at schools we’re so trauma informed we allow kids to get away with anything. I’ve seen it all in elementary school and the kids just get. a few days suspension to play video games and come back bragging about it.

The real answer to crime is what’s happening at the lower school levels. And that’s a question for city council who has eliminated all disciplinary options.

+1. Also a teacher. I agree with everything you wrote. I guarantee this kid is a behavior problem at school and his teachers have been brushed off when they voiced concerns.

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Anonymous wrote:The 11 year-old pulled a gun on multiple people! Where TF is a 5th grade acquiring a gun?

The mom says he’s on drugs, she thinks he has psychological problems, and she can’t control him.

This kid needs to be sent to a military or remedial boarding school in the depths of Maine or Vermont for a few years to get him sorted out. Along with a full psyche eval and whatever meds are needed.

The kid is obviously a victim himself so sending him to some abusive place will not get him “sorted out” at all. If that crap worked so well we would be doing it with everyone.

I don’t care what type of victim he is. He needs to be put away. End of story.

Anonymous wrote:“agreed to stay out of Northwest DC”? Is this the criminal justice version of NIMBY? He can be turned loose on society, as long as he doesn’t bother anyone in NW DC? Either he presents a danger to society or he doesn’t (and it appears he does).

As someone who lives in NE DC, I am not excited to apparently have to put up with violent crime just because I can’t afford to move to NW.

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Anonymous wrote:The 11 year-old pulled a gun on multiple people! Where TF is a 5th grade acquiring a gun?

The mom says he’s on drugs, she thinks he has psychological problems, and she can’t control him.

This kid needs to be sent to a military or remedial boarding school in the depths of Maine or Vermont for a few years to get him sorted out. Along with a full psyche eval and whatever meds are needed.

The kid is obviously a victim himself so sending him to some abusive place will not get him “sorted out” at all. If that crap worked so well we would be doing it with everyone.

It works better than doing nothing, like the current situation

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Anonymous wrote:The 11 year-old pulled a gun on multiple people! Where TF is a 5th grade acquiring a gun?

The mom says he’s on drugs, she thinks he has psychological problems, and she can’t control him.

This kid needs to be sent to a military or remedial boarding school in the depths of Maine or Vermont for a few years to get him sorted out. Along with a full psyche eval and whatever meds are needed.

The kid is obviously a victim himself so sending him to some abusive place will not get him “sorted out” at all. If that crap worked so well we would be doing it with everyone.

Asking the victim to pinky swear he won't frequent a certain privileged community isn't going to fix the problem either.