Anonymous
07/18/2023 18:17
Subject: Seeking Insights on Leadership Challenges in a Multi-Generational Workplace, servant leadership vs old people and fear
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You speak in a lot of buzzwords and jargon.
This 62 year old would not understand you. I know a lot of people in there 60's, 70's and 80's who are working full time. Do you want to be shoved out of the workplace when you are in your 60's? It is illegal to discriminate at the workplace based on age.
Generally leaders should speak in clear concise words.
The term "servant leadership" is used a lot in church/religious circles. It is an odd term to use in the business world.
Finally, if you have older workers say what you mean and use clear concise words, not jargon.
Younger tnan PP, but to their point, many older workers have experienced multiple iterations of the next best management style over the years and are skeptical of styles that use so many buzzwords and jargon. It could be one reason they don’t respond favorably to your apparently verbose style. Keep expectations clear and concise and make sure you’re not getting bogged down by your approach and the work keeps moving forward. You may get better results.
I agree with this. I’m Gen X and I have been in my profession long enough to see the latest fad in leadership come and go. I’ve worked through a lot of fads. I’m not impressed by the next big thing, and I’m not a fan of big talk. Get work done quickly, efficiently, and well. Keep me out of unnecessary meetings. That’s how I want to work.
Anonymous
07/18/2023 18:15
Subject: Seeking Insights on Leadership Challenges in a Multi-Generational Workplace, servant leadership vs old people and fear
Anonymous wrote:This was a test and it seems that dcum scews old, this will be an interesting time for the elderly who don't seem to want to adapt and learn new things. I am planning to always keep learning.
Then you might appreciate knowing that the word is "skews." Also, the term "elderly" is outdated because it isn't age inclusive. The more modern usage is "older adults."
Finally, your stereotyping of older adults is ageist.
Anonymous
07/18/2023 18:05
Subject: Seeking Insights on Leadership Challenges in a Multi-Generational Workplace, servant leadership vs old people and fear
Incoherent OP.
Anonymous
07/18/2023 17:39
Subject: Re:Seeking Insights on Leadership Challenges in a Multi-Generational Workplace, servant leadership vs old people and fear
I think that, as a leader, you adjust your style to what is effective….and you don’t call your direct reports or anyone else that works with you “old people”.
You need to meet people where they live. It seems like you look down on people who don’t do what you think is correct, which is not servant leadership.
You need to meet people where they live. It seems like you look down on people who don’t do what you think is correct, which is not servant leadership.
Anonymous
07/18/2023 16:35
Subject: Re:Seeking Insights on Leadership Challenges in a Multi-Generational Workplace, servant leadership vs old people and fear
Employees are individuals, each driven by their own motivations. No one management style works for everyone, or even for most people. In any case, what matters are results. An authoritarian style or any other approach can work very well in delivering results if employees appreciate clear direction, candid feedback, feel supported for their efforts, see themselves as well compensated, and as rewarded for their successes.
Anonymous
07/18/2023 15:44
Subject: Seeking Insights on Leadership Challenges in a Multi-Generational Workplace, servant leadership vs old people and fear
Anonymous wrote:You speak in a lot of buzzwords and jargon.
This 62 year old would not understand you. I know a lot of people in there 60's, 70's and 80's who are working full time. Do you want to be shoved out of the workplace when you are in your 60's? It is illegal to discriminate at the workplace based on age.
Generally leaders should speak in clear concise words.
The term "servant leadership" is used a lot in church/religious circles. It is an odd term to use in the business world.
Finally, if you have older workers say what you mean and use clear concise words, not jargon.
Frightening combination Servant Leaders and Chat GPT. Someone from my past is now a financial planner/Servant Leader, and born again. I thought that was bad.
Anonymous
07/18/2023 15:42
Subject: Seeking Insights on Leadership Challenges in a Multi-Generational Workplace, servant leadership vs old people and fear
Too bad OP won't come back with a concrete example.
I am in a workplace where we have situations where a couple of millennials are managing older people with specialized skills who do not want to manage people anymore. There is an art to managing these folks. I am a gen-xer with a boomer on my team. You have to leave them alone and let them do their thing. I do find that the boomer on my team is a good mentor and likes to do mentoring.
I am in a workplace where we have situations where a couple of millennials are managing older people with specialized skills who do not want to manage people anymore. There is an art to managing these folks. I am a gen-xer with a boomer on my team. You have to leave them alone and let them do their thing. I do find that the boomer on my team is a good mentor and likes to do mentoring.
Anonymous
07/18/2023 15:33
Subject: Seeking Insights on Leadership Challenges in a Multi-Generational Workplace, servant leadership vs old people and fear
You sound utterly insufferable.
Anonymous
07/18/2023 14:31
Subject: Seeking Insights on Leadership Challenges in a Multi-Generational Workplace, servant leadership vs old people and fear
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This was a test and it seems that dcum scews old, this will be an interesting time for the elderly who don't seem to want to adapt and learn new things. I am planning to always keep learning.
I hate to say I love boomers, Gen x and Gen Z.
Boomer - Gen Z combo are the best.
Millennials hard to get any work out of then. They brought us dress down, WFH, remote work, paternity leave, Pride Days, Flex Time, work from anywhere, etc. pretty much they are good at avoiding work and us Boomers appreciate that. Work is now so easy I can work to 100.
But their management style is laziness and rarely showing up at work
I think you have millennials wrong, they are the hustle culture go above and beyond burn long hours etc., genz doesn't see the benefit of that and got all of the above and they are right. I think you have the young people mixed up, in fact millennials are reaching 40 so they aren't in college anymore.
https://theweek.com/business/1023636/gen-zs-nonchalance-infiltrates-the-workplace
Anonymous
07/18/2023 13:52
Subject: Seeking Insights on Leadership Challenges in a Multi-Generational Workplace, servant leadership vs old people and fear
OP, it sounds as though you view people as part of their generation and make assumptions about their behaviors according to their age. I didn’t get the sense from your post that you see all your peers and reports as individual people with many different characteristics.
Also, do the older people you mentioned work for you or are they peers who manage their own teams? Knowing which it is might help people to give you suggestions.
Also, do the older people you mentioned work for you or are they peers who manage their own teams? Knowing which it is might help people to give you suggestions.
Anonymous
07/18/2023 13:29
Subject: Seeking Insights on Leadership Challenges in a Multi-Generational Workplace, servant leadership vs old people and fear
Anonymous wrote:This was a test and it seems that dcum scews old, this will be an interesting time for the elderly who don't seem to want to adapt and learn new things. I am planning to always keep learning.
I hate to say I love boomers, Gen x and Gen Z.
Boomer - Gen Z combo are the best.
Millennials hard to get any work out of then. They brought us dress down, WFH, remote work, paternity leave, Pride Days, Flex Time, work from anywhere, etc. pretty much they are good at avoiding work and us Boomers appreciate that. Work is now so easy I can work to 100.
But their management style is laziness and rarely showing up at work
Anonymous
07/18/2023 13:16
Subject: Seeking Insights on Leadership Challenges in a Multi-Generational Workplace, servant leadership vs old people and fear
This was a test and it seems that dcum scews old, this will be an interesting time for the elderly who don't seem to want to adapt and learn new things. I am planning to always keep learning.
Anonymous
07/18/2023 13:15
Subject: Seeking Insights on Leadership Challenges in a Multi-Generational Workplace, servant leadership vs old people and fear
Anonymous wrote:You speak in a lot of buzzwords and jargon.
This 62 year old would not understand you. I know a lot of people in there 60's, 70's and 80's who are working full time. Do you want to be shoved out of the workplace when you are in your 60's? It is illegal to discriminate at the workplace based on age.
Generally leaders should speak in clear concise words.
The term "servant leadership" is used a lot in church/religious circles. It is an odd term to use in the business world.
Finally, if you have older workers say what you mean and use clear concise words, not jargon.
This is very good example of the defensiveness and nastiness of boomers it sounds like the fear is to hold on to power because they are ignorant to anything after 1985
Anonymous
07/18/2023 13:07
Subject: Seeking Insights on Leadership Challenges in a Multi-Generational Workplace, servant leadership vs old people and fear
Anonymous wrote:You speak in a lot of buzzwords and jargon.
This 62 year old would not understand you. I know a lot of people in there 60's, 70's and 80's who are working full time. Do you want to be shoved out of the workplace when you are in your 60's? It is illegal to discriminate at the workplace based on age.
Generally leaders should speak in clear concise words.
The term "servant leadership" is used a lot in church/religious circles. It is an odd term to use in the business world.
Finally, if you have older workers say what you mean and use clear concise words, not jargon.
Younger tnan PP, but to their point, many older workers have experienced multiple iterations of the next best management style over the years and are skeptical of styles that use so many buzzwords and jargon. It could be one reason they don’t respond favorably to your apparently verbose style. Keep expectations clear and concise and make sure you’re not getting bogged down by your approach and the work keeps moving forward. You may get better results.
Anonymous
07/18/2023 13:01
Subject: Seeking Insights on Leadership Challenges in a Multi-Generational Workplace, servant leadership vs old people and fear
Your whole post is complete nonsense. Provide an example of something that is working with your younger reports and not working with your older reports, then people can give you real advice.
In my long career the most effective leaders are able to hire good people and create strong teams that are collaborative in nature. They are also able to make decisions without alienating people. You did not invent "servant leadership" or whatever you are calling it.
In my long career the most effective leaders are able to hire good people and create strong teams that are collaborative in nature. They are also able to make decisions without alienating people. You did not invent "servant leadership" or whatever you are calling it.