Anonymous
Post 07/22/2023 05:59     Subject: Messi
That game was so fun to watch!!
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2023 23:17     Subject: Messi
Man could not have plotted a better finish. Beckham must be having another toast to his brilliance of luring the flea to Miami.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2023 23:07     Subject: Messi
What about now?
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2023 17:00     Subject: Messi
Nova2Euro wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A foreign player choosing his team and getting paid by one of the league's television partners tells you just how far the MLS is from being a real league. It would be like Wemby deciding that whe wanted to be a Knick and that the supermax wasn't enough so TNT would have to throw in more and everyone just saying ok.


Can tell you do not understand how big Messi is. Name any player in any sport or any celebrity in the US and Messi is 5 to 10 times more popular.
There is no one in the world who comes close to his popularity.


Er...in literally every other sports league in the world players choose their teams. High draft picks are a reward for poor performance--hardly an argument for credibility as a "real league." Let me know the next time a team in one of our "professional" sports cartels actually has to win to stay in the league.

That being said...I think Messi will end up dragging ticket sales up, but the team down. I could be wrong, but I don't think he'll be a good fit in a very physical, athletic league.


Not possible to drag Miami down (they're in last place now). I think it's going to be a tough adjustment for him to go from having world-class teammates to having the current Inter Miami roster as teammates, but I guess that's why they're in the process of signing everyone who set foot in the Camp Nou in 2010.

I don't think MLS is more athletic than top-flight European competition is, either.
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2023 16:59     Subject: Messi
Anonymous wrote:
Nova2Euro wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A foreign player choosing his team and getting paid by one of the league's television partners tells you just how far the MLS is from being a real league. It would be like Wemby deciding that whe wanted to be a Knick and that the supermax wasn't enough so TNT would have to throw in more and everyone just saying ok.


Can tell you do not understand how big Messi is. Name any player in any sport or any celebrity in the US and Messi is 5 to 10 times more popular.
There is no one in the world who comes close to his popularity.


Er...in literally every other sports league in the world players choose their teams. High draft picks are a reward for poor performance--hardly an argument for credibility as a "real league." Let me know the next time a team in one of our "professional" sports cartels actually has to win to stay in the league.

That being said...I think Messi will end up dragging ticket sales up, but the team down. I could be wrong, but I don't think he'll be a good fit in a very physical, athletic league.



MLS seems more physical vs the major European leagues because the speed of play is so slow, the lack of athleticism and lower technical skills of the MLS players. It is not. The slow speed of play and lower technical skills in MLS means players hold the ball longer which allows defenders to make contact while the player possesses the ball. Messi like every retired European star will dominate the MLS.


Remember Rooney dominating, or will it be like Beckham dominating?
Anonymous
Post 07/21/2023 16:54     Subject: Messi
Nova2Euro wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A foreign player choosing his team and getting paid by one of the league's television partners tells you just how far the MLS is from being a real league. It would be like Wemby deciding that whe wanted to be a Knick and that the supermax wasn't enough so TNT would have to throw in more and everyone just saying ok.


Can tell you do not understand how big Messi is. Name any player in any sport or any celebrity in the US and Messi is 5 to 10 times more popular.
There is no one in the world who comes close to his popularity.


Er...in literally every other sports league in the world players choose their teams. High draft picks are a reward for poor performance--hardly an argument for credibility as a "real league." Let me know the next time a team in one of our "professional" sports cartels actually has to win to stay in the league.

That being said...I think Messi will end up dragging ticket sales up, but the team down. I could be wrong, but I don't think he'll be a good fit in a very physical, athletic league.


Yep look at what happen in the MLS all star game. The physicality and athleticism of the MLS players just shut down Arsenal. I know a lot of people will say the Gunners are in preseason and the MLS is in the middle of their season but they should not have lost like that.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 11:11     Subject: Messi
Nova2Euro wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A foreign player choosing his team and getting paid by one of the league's television partners tells you just how far the MLS is from being a real league. It would be like Wemby deciding that whe wanted to be a Knick and that the supermax wasn't enough so TNT would have to throw in more and everyone just saying ok.


Can tell you do not understand how big Messi is. Name any player in any sport or any celebrity in the US and Messi is 5 to 10 times more popular.
There is no one in the world who comes close to his popularity.


Er...in literally every other sports league in the world players choose their teams. High draft picks are a reward for poor performance--hardly an argument for credibility as a "real league." Let me know the next time a team in one of our "professional" sports cartels actually has to win to stay in the league.

That being said...I think Messi will end up dragging ticket sales up, but the team down. I could be wrong, but I don't think he'll be a good fit in a very physical, athletic league.



MLS seems more physical vs the major European leagues because the speed of play is so slow, the lack of athleticism and lower technical skills of the MLS players. It is not. The slow speed of play and lower technical skills in MLS means players hold the ball longer which allows defenders to make contact while the player possesses the ball. Messi like every retired European star will dominate the MLS.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2023 19:45     Subject: Messi
Anonymous wrote:I think with Messi there will be a temporary boost. DH and I have always been soccer fans (even before we met) and used to go to New England Revolution games all the time. There was a spike in interest when Beckham came to LA but it was just temporary. I kind of suspect the same thing will happen with Messi.


It's all part of the progress
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 06:37     Subject: Re:Messi
Anonymous wrote:I dunno. Expansion fees in the MLS have gone up from $20 million to $500 million in 15 years, and people are still trying to create teams. There's already momentum and will continue to be so.

It won't be long before MLS is about even with the NHL in terms of popularity.

MLB will take a few decades but that will happen too.


The ownership structure of MLS makes the NFL actually look like a competitive league.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 04:23     Subject: Messi
Nova2Euro wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A foreign player choosing his team and getting paid by one of the league's television partners tells you just how far the MLS is from being a real league. It would be like Wemby deciding that whe wanted to be a Knick and that the supermax wasn't enough so TNT would have to throw in more and everyone just saying ok.


Can tell you do not understand how big Messi is. Name any player in any sport or any celebrity in the US and Messi is 5 to 10 times more popular.
There is no one in the world who comes close to his popularity.


Er...in literally every other sports league in the world players choose their teams. High draft picks are a reward for poor performance--hardly an argument for credibility as a "real league." Let me know the next time a team in one of our "professional" sports cartels actually has to win to stay in the league.

That being said...I think Messi will end up dragging ticket sales up, but the team down. I could be wrong, but I don't think he'll be a good fit in a very physical, athletic league.


I don't think he can drag Inter Miami much further down.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2023 23:58     Subject: Re:Messi
I dunno. Expansion fees in the MLS have gone up from $20 million to $500 million in 15 years, and people are still trying to create teams. There's already momentum and will continue to be so.

It won't be long before MLS is about even with the NHL in terms of popularity.

MLB will take a few decades but that will happen too.
Nova2Euro
Post 07/17/2023 23:49     Subject: Messi
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A foreign player choosing his team and getting paid by one of the league's television partners tells you just how far the MLS is from being a real league. It would be like Wemby deciding that whe wanted to be a Knick and that the supermax wasn't enough so TNT would have to throw in more and everyone just saying ok.


Can tell you do not understand how big Messi is. Name any player in any sport or any celebrity in the US and Messi is 5 to 10 times more popular.
There is no one in the world who comes close to his popularity.


Er...in literally every other sports league in the world players choose their teams. High draft picks are a reward for poor performance--hardly an argument for credibility as a "real league." Let me know the next time a team in one of our "professional" sports cartels actually has to win to stay in the league.

That being said...I think Messi will end up dragging ticket sales up, but the team down. I could be wrong, but I don't think he'll be a good fit in a very physical, athletic league.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2023 20:29     Subject: Messi
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A foreign player choosing his team and getting paid by one of the league's television partners tells you just how far the MLS is from being a real league. It would be like Wemby deciding that whe wanted to be a Knick and that the supermax wasn't enough so TNT would have to throw in more and everyone just saying ok.


Can tell you do not understand how big Messi is. Name any player in any sport or any celebrity in the US and Messi is 5 to 10 times more popular.
There is no one in the world who comes close to his popularity.


I mean...Ronaldo does.


Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods or Michael Jackson 20-30 years ago. Taylor Swift, Selena Gomez, Beyoncé.

Messi is essentially retired. He’s doing this probably because he wants his kids to be educated in the US and he can make huge post soccer money in Miami.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2023 17:22     Subject: Messi
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A foreign player choosing his team and getting paid by one of the league's television partners tells you just how far the MLS is from being a real league. It would be like Wemby deciding that whe wanted to be a Knick and that the supermax wasn't enough so TNT would have to throw in more and everyone just saying ok.


Can tell you do not understand how big Messi is. Name any player in any sport or any celebrity in the US and Messi is 5 to 10 times more popular.
There is no one in the world who comes close to his popularity.


I mean...Ronaldo does.
Anonymous
Post 07/17/2023 16:46     Subject: Messi
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A foreign player choosing his team and getting paid by one of the league's television partners tells you just how far the MLS is from being a real league. It would be like Wemby deciding that whe wanted to be a Knick and that the supermax wasn't enough so TNT would have to throw in more and everyone just saying ok.


Can tell you do not understand how big Messi is. Name any player in any sport or any celebrity in the US and Messi is 5 to 10 times more popular.
There is no one in the world who comes close to his popularity.


Sure and no other league would let a player enter outside of normal procedure and let a league television partner pay part of their salary. The MLS remains a joke.