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Anonymous wrote:High stat DC got into an Ivy this year.
-not a legacy
-not an athlete
-not an URM
-not a faculty kid
-public school (not TJ)
-no crazy national/international awards
Just got super super lucky.

Stats and major?

1580, 4.6 weighted, Engineering

Very impressive, congrats to your DC on getting in for one of the toughest majors. Essays must have been excellent!

The sad thing is the assumption that a kid with these stats wouldn't normally get in without a hook. Back in the day they would have sailed in!

Test prep culture has considerably cheapened the value of a 1580.

I know plenty of kids who've prepped, none who've earned a 1580.

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Anonymous wrote:High stat DC got into an Ivy this year.
-not a legacy
-not an athlete
-not an URM
-not a faculty kid
-public school (not TJ)
-no crazy national/international awards
Just got super super lucky.

Stats and major?

1580, 4.6 weighted, Engineering

Very impressive, congrats to your DC on getting in for one of the toughest majors. Essays must have been excellent!

The sad thing is the assumption that a kid with these stats wouldn't normally get in without a hook. Back in the day they would have sailed in!

Test prep culture has considerably cheapened the value of a 1580.

No, 1580 is very hard to achieve prep or not.
Everybody should study and prepare hard for major test such as SAT, MCAT, BAR exam, Professional Engineer exam, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:High stat DC got into an Ivy this year.
-not a legacy
-not an athlete
-not an URM
-not a faculty kid
-public school (not TJ)
-no crazy national/international awards
Just got super super lucky.

Stats and major?

1580, 4.6 weighted, Engineering

Very impressive, congrats to your DC on getting in for one of the toughest majors. Essays must have been excellent!

The sad thing is the assumption that a kid with these stats wouldn't normally get in without a hook. Back in the day they would have sailed in!

Test prep culture has considerably cheapened the value of a 1580.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:High stat DC got into an Ivy this year.
-not a legacy
-not an athlete
-not an URM
-not a faculty kid
-public school (not TJ)
-no crazy national/international awards
Just got super super lucky.

Stats and major?

1580, 4.6 weighted, Engineering

Very impressive, congrats to your DC on getting in for one of the toughest majors. Essays must have been excellent!

The sad thing is the assumption that a kid with these stats wouldn't normally get in without a hook. Back in the day they would have sailed in!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:High stat DC got into an Ivy this year.
-not a legacy
-not an athlete
-not an URM
-not a faculty kid
-public school (not TJ)
-no crazy national/international awards
Just got super super lucky.

Stats and major?

1580, 4.6 weighted, Engineering

Very impressive, congrats to your DC on getting in for one of the toughest majors. Essays must have been excellent!

Thanks for the kind words. I think it was but you never know. Honestly, I think it was their video. Creative, not polished, showed who they are beyond the stats. They also realize that it’s a lottery and that they were really just lucky.

43% (almost half) of White students at Harvard is ALDC.

Enough Said.

Anonymous wrote:For the most part, all the Ivys I see from my kids' suburban public high school are Asian. There may be a sprinkling of URMs and the white recruited athlete, but majority are Asian. They aren't legacy. I'm sure they have high stats but don't know of any national/international awards.

Those tend to be the top-stats kids now, so not surprising. Look at any of the DMV magnet programs, majority Asian.

For the most part, all the Ivys I see from my kids' suburban public high school are Asian. There may be a sprinkling of URMs and the white recruited athlete, but majority are Asian. They aren't legacy. I'm sure they have high stats but don't know of any national/international awards.

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Anonymous wrote:High stat DC got into an Ivy this year.
-not a legacy
-not an athlete
-not an URM
-not a faculty kid
-public school (not TJ)
-no crazy national/international awards
Just got super super lucky.

Stats and major?

1580, 4.6 weighted, Engineering

Very impressive, congrats to your DC on getting in for one of the toughest majors. Essays must have been excellent!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:High stat DC got into an Ivy this year.
-not a legacy
-not an athlete
-not an URM
-not a faculty kid
-public school (not TJ)
-no crazy national/international awards
Just got super super lucky.

Stats and major?

1580, 4.6 weighted, Engineering

Anonymous wrote:OP - are the high school students you know mostly white? Because one way of reading this post is that it reaffirms the recent Supreme Court decision - it’s become nearly impossible for white highly qualified high school students to get into Ivy League schools unless they are legacies or athletes.

Probably. And many if not most of the legacies are going to be from connected families with parents who are prominent and accomplished. Major donors (no, your paltry $200 a year doesn't count), major cultural figures, heads of institutions, film directors, financial bigwigs. It's not your run of mill legacy applicant from a run of mill professional suburban family.

30 years ago legacy admissions wasn't so controversial because there was still plenty of room for non legacy, unhooked bright kids, who were the biggest demographics at the schools. But over the last 30 years the Ivies have hollowed out that demographic enormously in order to fit in all the quotas of other categories. Not just black or Latino, but "international" is now a significant presence the Ivies seek out. To make room for all of them while keeping the rich hooked legacies and the athletes, the unhooked suburban kids had to go bye bye. The Ivy student body is engineered to a degree today that would have been unthinkable 30 years ago.

Banning legacy admissions won't change anything meaningfully. These kids will just go into the special admissions pile in a different form. The Ivies aren't giving up the children of the rich and powerful and connected. But banning affirmative action will affect the schools significantly and will see the % of Asian students go up noticeably, but in my view that is perfectly fine. That's merit, more like it was 30 years ago, except that more will be Asian.

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Anonymous wrote:High stat DC got into an Ivy this year.
-not a legacy
-not an athlete
-not an URM
-not a faculty kid
-public school (not TJ)
-no crazy national/international awards
Just got super super lucky.

Cornell?

Nothing wrong with Cornell, but no.

sorry for naive question, but what groups are considered URM? this will no longer exist right as an advantage?

OP - are the high school students you know mostly white? Because one way of reading this post is that it reaffirms the recent Supreme Court decision - it’s become nearly impossible for white highly qualified high school students to get into Ivy League schools unless they are legacies or athletes.

Anonymous wrote:High stat DC got into an Ivy this year.
-not a legacy
-not an athlete
-not an URM
-not a faculty kid
-public school (not TJ)
-no crazy national/international awards
Just got super super lucky.

Stats and major?