Anonymous
Post 07/04/2023 10:35     Subject: Back to office notice?
Anonymous wrote:No, there's no requirement to give notice. But it's not great management. In your case, though, they are moving from 2 days to 3 days/week in-office, right? What do you do now on the 2 days you need to be in? Also, will this situation be tolerable once school starts, or never? If it's just another 4-6 weeks, figure out if you can get a delay or plan some long weekends. If it will never be tolerable to you, you can see if it sticks and/or start looking for a new job.


So where is spouse, mother in law, mother, father in law, father, sisters. Brothers, sister in laws, brother in laws, aunts. Uncles. baby sitter, neighbors. Nanny, sleep seat camp, child care facility? Lots of ways to get help. How is it bosses job to do your childcare?
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2023 09:38     Subject: Back to office notice?
No, there's no requirement to give notice. But it's not great management. In your case, though, they are moving from 2 days to 3 days/week in-office, right? What do you do now on the 2 days you need to be in? Also, will this situation be tolerable once school starts, or never? If it's just another 4-6 weeks, figure out if you can get a delay or plan some long weekends. If it will never be tolerable to you, you can see if it sticks and/or start looking for a new job.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2023 09:28     Subject: Back to office notice?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for single moms


Why? They should have child care when working from home already.


NP. OMG you people are being so obtuse. People who are in a steady WFH arrangement do not have childcare to cover a commute to the office. I work 9-5 from home. I have childcare from 9-5. My office is 40 mins away. If I’m suddenly called back to the office with no notice, who the heck is going to care for my children from 8:20-9am and from 5-5:40pm?

OP, that really sucks and I’m sorry. Unfortunately, I think other posters are correct, and there are no laws about this, it’s completely at the will of your employer.

When companies do this with zero notice, I honestly think it’s a form of voluntary layoffs. They want less staff and they’re hoping some people will just quit.


Simple solution get childcare by work and take kid with you. When I worked in Bethesda one single mom enrolled kid in Catholic school program next to office.


That's a fine solution, but it requires planning, which is the OP's complaint.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2023 09:24     Subject: Back to office notice?
Anonymous wrote:No, you are supposed to be working when WFH and therefore should already have childcare in place.


Read. The. Thread.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2023 09:06     Subject: Back to office notice?
People who work from home work less hours on top of less commute. So it really impacts their life to go back to work.

I spend right not 90 minutes commuting a day and at work with CEO and CFO near me I got to be in my chair by 830am at latest and leave at 530 pm the latest. Usually more.

At home I flip open laptop PJs check a few emails then breakfast and hangout start actual work 930 am, kinds zone out 12-2 then back in line till 430 and that’s it
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2023 08:12     Subject: Back to office notice?
Anonymous wrote:No, you are supposed to be working when WFH and therefore should already have childcare in place.


Not necessarily. Dh works from home (always has, always will) but I work out of the home. DS is 10. He can completely handle himself without DH but we wouldn't leave him home alone if DH wasnt home.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2023 08:09     Subject: Back to office notice?
Wait it out. Employers thought a recession was coming and they could increase the RTO. Except it’s not. There’s record low unemployment and a skilled labor shortage. All you need is a noticeable amount of employees to quit and the company will reverse its policy. Yes some companies are doing this instead of layoffs but the problem is the RTO layoff plan often results in the top performers leaving and the low hanging fruit sticking around and slacking from the office. Managers start getting vocal about not being able to achieve objectives and hit numbers and senior management starts to take notice.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2023 08:07     Subject: Back to office notice?
No, you are supposed to be working when WFH and therefore should already have childcare in place.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2023 07:52     Subject: Back to office notice?
It is a societal issue. Yesterday I read 40 percent of 40 year old men have never been married. But they have kids. The moms are screwed over juggling work and kids with no husband.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2023 07:49     Subject: Back to office notice?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for single moms


Why? They should have child care when working from home already.


NP. OMG you people are being so obtuse. People who are in a steady WFH arrangement do not have childcare to cover a commute to the office. I work 9-5 from home. I have childcare from 9-5. My office is 40 mins away. If I’m suddenly called back to the office with no notice, who the heck is going to care for my children from 8:20-9am and from 5-5:40pm?

OP, that really sucks and I’m sorry. Unfortunately, I think other posters are correct, and there are no laws about this, it’s completely at the will of your employer.

When companies do this with zero notice, I honestly think it’s a form of voluntary layoffs. They want less staff and they’re hoping some people will just quit.


Simple solution get childcare by work and take kid with you. When I worked in Bethesda one single mom enrolled kid in Catholic school program next to office.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2023 06:55     Subject: Back to office notice?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That is the reason why everyone is back to the office. Your kids at home is not a reason to work from home. Can’t you see that? Exactly the reason why this didn’t work out.


Precisely, employers should just hire childless people.



No, but your childcare is your problem. You are hired to do a job. And yes, I have kids.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2023 04:58     Subject: Back to office notice?
You are going to have to use extended day camp or care.com
It is great to return to some sense of normalcy even if the change is painful.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2023 00:16     Subject: Back to office notice?
Anonymous wrote:That is the reason why everyone is back to the office. Your kids at home is not a reason to work from home. Can’t you see that? Exactly the reason why this didn’t work out.


She could have kids that aren't toddler aged. For example you could have a 9 and 11 year old or a 10 and 12 year old. They will easily stay out of your hair all day long while you work but you wouldn't feel comfortable enough to leave them at home alone for 8 plus hours. Now, with one week's notice, she has to try and find and pay for a camp or some other type of childcare. It's a myth that people are bouncing babies on their knees with their Zoom cameras off. It's virtually impossible to work from home with toddler age (or younger) children without some sort of childcare.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 19:56     Subject: Back to office notice?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That is the reason why everyone is back to the office. Your kids at home is not a reason to work from home. Can’t you see that? Exactly the reason why this didn’t work out.


Precisely, employers should just hire childless people.


Exactly, people with children shouldn't have to work. They should just be supported in full by the tax dollars of childless people. Thanks 😊
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2023 14:51     Subject: Back to office notice?
Anonymous wrote:That is the reason why everyone is back to the office. Your kids at home is not a reason to work from home. Can’t you see that? Exactly the reason why this didn’t work out.


Precisely, employers should just hire childless people.