Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Parisian here.
I've long abandoned the idea that my compatriots are rational people when it comes to going down in the street, striking, protesting and looting over every perceived slight and imposition. When I was a high schooler in a Parisian lycee, it seemed crazy to me. And now in my 40s, it seems just as crazy.
In the case of banlieues youths dying while trying to escape police, I'm very sorry they died. This is not the first one. I am against police shooting at traffic stops. I am for this policeman getting the full wack of the homicide laws (he won't, but at least he's been arrested). The north African immigrant poor suburbs have always been a problem, even when they've been modernized and fully supported by low cost or free social/medical services and low cost public transportation. The youth is disaffected, many don't have jobs, there are gang and drug problems, and they've been raised to clash with the police and destroy government buildings any time something bad happens to one of them. The police has been trained to respond in this way against the banlieues youths from force of habit of always being targeted by them.
I don't know what the solution is, but it's sad that we can't seem to get out of this vicious cycle.
The solution is to send back anyone involved in anything unlawful and not to bring more people from clashing cultures
Anonymous wrote:
Parisian here.
I've long abandoned the idea that my compatriots are rational people when it comes to going down in the street, striking, protesting and looting over every perceived slight and imposition. When I was a high schooler in a Parisian lycee, it seemed crazy to me. And now in my 40s, it seems just as crazy.
In the case of banlieues youths dying while trying to escape police, I'm very sorry they died. This is not the first one. I am against police shooting at traffic stops. I am for this policeman getting the full wack of the homicide laws (he won't, but at least he's been arrested). The north African immigrant poor suburbs have always been a problem, even when they've been modernized and fully supported by low cost or free social/medical services and low cost public transportation. The youth is disaffected, many don't have jobs, there are gang and drug problems, and they've been raised to clash with the police and destroy government buildings any time something bad happens to one of them. The police has been trained to respond in this way against the banlieues youths from force of habit of always being targeted by them.
I don't know what the solution is, but it's sad that we can't seem to get out of this vicious cycle.
Anonymous wrote:
Parisian here.
I've long abandoned the idea that my compatriots are rational people when it comes to going down in the street, striking, protesting and looting over every perceived slight and imposition. When I was a high schooler in a Parisian lycee, it seemed crazy to me. And now in my 40s, it seems just as crazy.
In the case of banlieues youths dying while trying to escape police, I'm very sorry they died. This is not the first one. I am against police shooting at traffic stops. I am for this policeman getting the full wack of the homicide laws (he won't, but at least he's been arrested). The north African immigrant poor suburbs have always been a problem, even when they've been modernized and fully supported by low cost or free social/medical services and low cost public transportation. The youth is disaffected, many don't have jobs, there are gang and drug problems, and they've been raised to clash with the police and destroy government buildings any time something bad happens to one of them. The police has been trained to respond in this way against the banlieues youths from force of habit of always being targeted by them.
I don't know what the solution is, but it's sad that we can't seem to get out of this vicious cycle.
Anonymous wrote:Well, Europe is getting the diversity they clamored for.
Look at how progressive they are. Ain't it amazing?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The teen shouldn't have been shot but he was also a deeply problematic individual with a long history of encounters with the police. This isn't necessarily France's "George Floyd" moment, however. There are deep reservations towards the Arab populations, once you're outside the usual Parisian progressives. The riots are far more worrisome than the police shooting the teen.
this. this and this.
Perhaps the French should have thought of that before they established colonies in North Africa (and West Africa and the Caribbean). Of course, the same applies to Americans and their involvement in the slave trade.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The teen shouldn't have been shot but he was also a deeply problematic individual with a long history of encounters with the police. This isn't necessarily France's "George Floyd" moment, however. There are deep reservations towards the Arab populations, once you're outside the usual Parisian progressives. The riots are far more worrisome than the police shooting the teen.
Once you scratch the surface almost everyone shot is not exactly a model citizen
So the cops who shoot unarmed citizens have their rap sheet in front of them when they make the decision to shoot or not? Or can they just "tell" by looking at them that they're not "model citizens"?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The teen shouldn't have been shot but he was also a deeply problematic individual with a long history of encounters with the police. This isn't necessarily France's "George Floyd" moment, however. There are deep reservations towards the Arab populations, once you're outside the usual Parisian progressives. The riots are far more worrisome than the police shooting the teen.
The teen wasn’t an Arab — he was a Berber!
Berbers were islamized by the Arab invasion of Algeria — they aren’t Arabs tho
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The teen shouldn't have been shot but he was also a deeply problematic individual with a long history of encounters with the police. This isn't necessarily France's "George Floyd" moment, however. There are deep reservations towards the Arab populations, once you're outside the usual Parisian progressives. The riots are far more worrisome than the police shooting the teen.
this. this and this.
Perhaps the French should have thought of that before they established colonies in North Africa (and West Africa and the Caribbean). Of course, the same applies to Americans and their involvement in the slave trade.
Anonymous wrote:France needs more immigration, the melting pot is so good for French culture .
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1674898924937650176?s=46&t=SgrQkBdvvOiR3Ut0ZqcBcA

Anonymous wrote:France needs more immigration, the melting pot is so good for French culture .
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1674898924937650176?s=46&t=SgrQkBdvvOiR3Ut0ZqcBcA
Anonymous wrote:Same usual riots. Everything will go back to “normal” in a few days. The French people need their vacations.